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Replying To eunans4ever:  "Listen the lad is entitled to an opinion without been talked down at..

You need to calm down a bit"
You stick to predicting st eunans to win the championship every year with your population your bound to get it right some year. Lol

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 30/08/2021 15:20:52    2376456

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Rory,u must be getting tired flogging ure dead horse, takin Eunan's forever to task for his post .ure telling him that he will get it right one year! What year is,was Bonner supposed to get it right? Not in a month of sundays. By the way u running out of ink, no snide comment on my Bonner/Keane comparisons. Guess that stuff doesn't work for u, u don't go Croke Park or national. Bonners diary is as far as u get.

thelowball (USA) - Posts: 400 - 30/08/2021 15:50:08    2376472

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Replying To thelowball:  "Rory,u must be getting tired flogging ure dead horse, takin Eunan's forever to task for his post .ure telling him that he will get it right one year! What year is,was Bonner supposed to get it right? Not in a month of sundays. By the way u running out of ink, no snide comment on my Bonner/Keane comparisons. Guess that stuff doesn't work for u, u don't go Croke Park or national. Bonners diary is as far as u get."
I'm totally confused now

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 30/08/2021 16:03:36    2376477

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Close calls and tight margins, Donegal will beat Tyrone most games,with a different team selection and that means a different Manager Donegal could be looking at an All Ireland Final in two weeks.

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 407 - 30/08/2021 16:53:12    2376488

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Replying To Commodore:  "We need educated people in place, who can think long-term and beyond their own personal gains, purely to helping make Donegal football powerful.

The problem is that most of the Clubs are run on a parochial basis, usually with a 2 or 3 families dominating the Club Committee, which often drives more sensible people away from the Club, after they become disillusioned with at times idiotic decision making, which is detrimental to the Clubs success at different grades.
An example of when this become detrimental is when they see a group of talented players at U14 or U16 coming through, they stick one of their own Cabbage heads in to take them at minor level and the wheels fall off the cart.

This may not be the case at every club, but it is in many, and quite often these are the Club delegates then sent to County Board to vote on key decisions. This is why we often see names thrown in for the Donegal job of guys who have no solid track record of winning, because its not about his record, its about the fact he is "Our man" who has the backing of clubs in a certain area."
Hi Commodore:. Great post about clubs and their make-up. Cabbage Heads. Classic but so true.

AudiMan (Donegal) - Posts: 648 - 30/08/2021 18:38:02    2376531

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Replying To rorysboys:  "You stick to predicting st eunans to win the championship every year with your population your bound to get it right some year. Lol"
You seem to have a lot of anger and resentment in you my friend - don't allow people to have opinions and snigger at people who do.

Prob shouldn't engage in public forums if you get so worked up - maybe take a little time out..

eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1595 - 30/08/2021 18:57:22    2376540

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Replying To eunans4ever:  "You seem to have a lot of anger and resentment in you my friend - don't allow people to have opinions and snigger at people who do.

Prob shouldn't engage in public forums if you get so worked up - maybe take a little time out.."
Thanks for the advice lad very nice of you to pass on your expert knowledge. I take it you don't agree with me. Ah well it's just my opinion. Cheers again boss.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 30/08/2021 19:24:54    2376553

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So there's no new Donegal manager after all, tight effort the clubs couldn't even make a nomination, I wish Declan all the best but my confidence is low, I can see us meandering on as a decent league div 1 team and maybe winning an Ulster but forget about beating any of the big teams in the later stages of the Championship,
Murphy will not get his hands on Sam again, he might have had a chance if Mc Guinness was back in charge.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2757 - 30/08/2021 21:53:42    2376598

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "So there's no new Donegal manager after all, tight effort the clubs couldn't even make a nomination, I wish Declan all the best but my confidence is low, I can see us meandering on as a decent league div 1 team and maybe winning an Ulster but forget about beating any of the big teams in the later stages of the Championship,
Murphy will not get his hands on Sam again, he might have had a chance if Mc Guinness was back in charge."
Why couldn't the county board draw up a list of potential candidates for the job?
Interview them and then select your best option.
Sadly i believe we are going no where fast, as you said at most we will probably win is a ulster title.
I hope i am wrong, but i can only judge from declan bonners past, and there is nothing in it to say we are going to compete for sam.

The keeper (Donegal) - Posts: 687 - 30/08/2021 22:06:57    2376601

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Even if a club wanted to nominate someone to oppose Declan Bonner the time frame was too tight announcement made late Wednesday night with a closing date of 5pm on Sunday. It looks like the county board got the man they wanted. My confidence wouldn't be high on even winning Ulster. The wheels came off the wagon in last years Ulster final. Rumours of Rochfords departure also.

EPSON (Donegal) - Posts: 127 - 30/08/2021 22:11:07    2376603

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Surprised to hear that bonner got another few years. Can't really see him adding much more to Donegal to take them to the next level. His managment of Murphy hadn't been great with the hamstring injury. Thought if you had of gotten a new manager it may have been the catalyst to kick on next year.

TYE08 (Tyrone) - Posts: 93 - 30/08/2021 22:28:24    2376607

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How sad, what a joke the county board are spineless. Does everyone honestly believe in Donegal football that this man is the only one for the job! Dark days for Donegal, Tyrone, Armagh, Monaghan to dominate for a long time. Mick McGrath take a walk!!

thelowball (USA) - Posts: 400 - 30/08/2021 22:59:23    2376621

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Get your point ok but who are the players that. We can mould like Mc geary burns sludden and meylers. If Murphy scored the penalty I believe we could have win. We have a lot of talented players but I'm still on about our defence all good footballers but we're lacking a Mac namee hampsey and mc geary type players. In my mind to be competing for all Ireland's we need these type players . have we got them in the county in my mind not at the moment but I dearly hope I'm proved wrong . If bonner gets back in he has to take in a few new back room men to freshen things up. Outside of the squad we had this year is there any body that not there that could make a difference, I don't know nobody springs to mind. We have a lot of good young small players but you can only play so many. People can say I'm pro bonner I'm just giving my honest opinion I was on this forum long before bonner got the job. I was laughed at for standing up for Rory Gallagher who I feel is still a good manager but things didn't work for him with Donegal but he probably learned from the mistakes he made with Donegal to make him a better manager now. Until I think there's a better option than bonner I will continue to back him as I said before if the players weren't happy I don't think bonner would put his name forward so that's good enough for me. At the end of the day I'm a Donegal gaa man who wants the best for my county I don't have hidden agendas like a few of the posters on here who just can't stand bonner or rochford ."
Well Mogan for one, Andrew McClean another. I would also suggest Ethan O'Donnell but not sure he has that dogged streak. Of course another obvious one is OMFF. Not sure if McColgan is under 20 again next year but if he is not this kid has bags of potential. You're spot on regarding McNamee and Hampsey etc but conversely Tyrone wouldn't have the same strength around the middle Donegal have. I doubt Jason McGee would've spent the year collecting splinters in his **** sitting on the bench if a Kerry or Tyrone man. I think if you look at my posts I have largely been supportive of Bonner despite apprehension but was happy to see anybody in instead of Gallagher. However time feels right for a change. For the record Donegal certainly have the talent to go and contest for an AI through any route. In fact a qualifier route might do them no harm. Weak mentality to suggest otherwise.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 30/08/2021 23:14:22    2376624

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There is some pile of negativity going on here. It's very easy to criticise and pretty much criticise everything.
Bringing Karl lacey as head of academy development is hardly a regressive move by the county board. Limerick success is based on an academy structure and it's proven to have worked in other counties as well. Having someone like him working within the young players can only benefit donegal down the line. They also undertaken collaboration they were doing with LYIT and also to keep so of the younger players local. They've got the development work complete in convoy gaa centre.

Players and management have to be frustrated by last few years and no doubt changes need to be made. I don't want to see ban in a man marking corner back role. Nobody did more damage to tyrone than him running at them. He has to play in a freer role in the hb line, maybe in sweeper role that allows him to carry the attack from the back.
Identify the full back marker players and get coaching with the as early as possible. Think mcff comes into this category. He's got pace and he's a tenacious character though a bit over zealous. Maybe mckelvey from naomh conaill comes into the reckoning here too. I think the whole back 7 of the under 20s are under age again next year. It's possibly too early for any of them to make the jump next year but think some of of them will come through.
I think donegal also had a development group with the senior squad, maybe under 21s who might not be quite ready but the training will help bring them along. I don't know the players but it's a good idea. The club championship for the first time in a while represents a good opportunity for players to stake a claim for county selection.

Nice to see conor o'donnell go back to carn and play well and they've got promoted which is good to see. Against armagh in a do or die match he really added something. Hope to see more of him in a proper league structure next year. Oising farrah likewise and he looked very good last year in the club championship last year. It's been mentioned that his development was not managed well but I'm pretty sure his initial injury was a club match. Fingers crossed Jason mcgee can have a good run with cloughaneely in the intermediate championship as well.

Bonner may also need to freshen the management team up a bit and toughen the team up. Maybe a few more sand dunes in downings or send them on eamon mcgees special forces training. Maybe find a cause to get behind. Prove the great and the good of the hoganstand donegal forum wrong!!!
It's the 50 year anniversary of donegals first ulster win next year. Nice to celebrate that in little style next year.

Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 697 - 30/08/2021 23:24:25    2376626

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "So there's no new Donegal manager after all, tight effort the clubs couldn't even make a nomination, I wish Declan all the best but my confidence is low, I can see us meandering on as a decent league div 1 team and maybe winning an Ulster but forget about beating any of the big teams in the later stages of the Championship,
Murphy will not get his hands on Sam again, he might have had a chance if Mc Guinness was back in charge."
Jim McGuinness is gone, he has his heart set on making it in Professional soccer and isn't looking to re-enter Gaelic football full time anytime soon.

Declan Bonner and his team are probably the best we have within the County at the moment, there is nobody in the Club scene or at Minor or U20 level who is lighting a fire under Declan Bonner unfortunately, so in the absence of anything better, we must persevere. Declan is a proud Donegal man, while I haven't been happy with certain decisions in recent years, I respect the man and the effort that goes in behind the scenes.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1121 - 30/08/2021 23:34:35    2376628

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Would have been interesting to see Rochford take the reigns.

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 31/08/2021 00:48:01    2376640

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Replying To EPSON:  "Even if a club wanted to nominate someone to oppose Declan Bonner the time frame was too tight announcement made late Wednesday night with a closing date of 5pm on Sunday. It looks like the county board got the man they wanted. My confidence wouldn't be high on even winning Ulster. The wheels came off the wagon in last years Ulster final. Rumours of Rochfords departure also."
I don't think Stephen Rochford's departure is necessarily a bad thing, he has made a big contribution to Donegal football, particularly to our attacking brand of football. I think we probably need to tweak out system of play now, maybe a little bit more defensive and launch an all out assault on the All Ireland next year.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1121 - 31/08/2021 09:40:12    2376656

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Good to see bonner get two years, was hoping he would get three. The clubs have had there say so it's about time we all get behind Declan and the team. Be interesting to see who'll be added to the backroom team, bonner would not be coming back for the sake of it , he knows there's potential there and as a proud Donegal man he'll be doing his utmost to get us back on track again. Roll on 2022.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 31/08/2021 10:00:48    2376662

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No surprise no candidates.Cosy boys club with MM really at the helm imo.Club final fiasco also no help.

neutral (None) - Posts: 358 - 31/08/2021 10:05:15    2376664

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Replying To neutral:  "No surprise no candidates.Cosy boys club with MM really at the helm imo.Club final fiasco also no help."
I have been chatting to donegal supporters all around the county, and every single one of them said the same thing, we are going no where under his management.
I have absolutely nothing against declan bonner, was a great player. And i only want what is best for donegal. I think for to long we looked down on ourselves and accepted second best, were happy with the odd big day out, a moral victory.
I truely thought the mcguinness changed things for the better in donegal, put a mindset in the team and supporters we are as good as anyone.
But looking at things and the way the board fast tracked declan bonner, i feel we are back to the bad old days of under the table agreements. The cosy boys club as previous poster has said.
We have learned nothing, and i hope i am wrong, but it will be another 20+ years before sam visits again.
As a donegal gaa man, i really hope i am wrong

The keeper (Donegal) - Posts: 687 - 31/08/2021 12:06:38    2376704

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