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Declan needs to move on now - great man but just not up to bringing us to next level. eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1595 - 20/07/2021 22:50:11 2362328 Link 1 |
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McDaid was a poor manager with the underage Donegal teams
correct (None) - Posts: 84 - 20/07/2021 23:07:25 2362339 Link 0 |
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Yup completely agree. His return would be seismic not just in Donegal.
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 20/07/2021 23:39:24 2362355 Link 1 |
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Ryan McHugh seems to be un-subable as it is, imagine if Martin were managing.... peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 807 - 21/07/2021 08:58:50 2362392 Link 3 |
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Forget about Jim it's ain't going to happen. Can't see county board paying an outside manager and rightly so. Very few candidates in the county so get bonner back in ,that's if he wants it. With some of the candidates I see the posters putting up it's a no brainer. rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 21/07/2021 10:45:48 2362430 Link 0 |
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They had no issue paying Rochford.
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 807 - 21/07/2021 12:48:31 2362477 Link 0 |
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Enda McGinley is of the right , and did excellent job with Antrim this year . I often listen to him on podcasts and he knows the game inside out ! The tyrone connection bugs the hell out of me as well but i hate to see langan ,gallen , Jason Mcgee etc,, not fullfilling their potential as well ballyshannon (Donegal) - Posts: 176 - 21/07/2021 13:28:26 2362497 Link 0 |
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I'm not against Declan Bonner staying on for another year, but if he does, he needs to make some harsh decisions around our back six, that is our problem area regardless of whether its Declan or anybody else managing the team. Starting back six against Derry E McHugh, S McMenamin, N McGee, E Ban Gallagher, R McHugh, O McFF. Starting back six against Tyrone B McCole, N McGee, O McFF E Ban Gallagher, R McHugh, P Mogan Hugh McFadden has been thrown in there to try and shore up the defense, but I think the half back line is simply too light. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1121 - 21/07/2021 14:01:31 2362507 Link 0 |
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Rochford wasn't the manager so neither me nor you know what he was getting. I presume he would be on a lot less than an outside manager.
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 21/07/2021 14:46:29 2362529 Link 0 |
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I know our defence is weak , all good footballers but not natural tight marking defenders. Reason I'm standing up for bonner is he knows Donegal football inside out and he would have left no stone unturned trying to get these defenders. In my honest opinion at the moment we don't have these defenders hopefully in a few years with club football becoming more open we'll get these type of players. I would have big hopes for young grant from termon but it'll be at least 2 to 3 years till he is ready. Doesn't matter who manages us next year the problem will not go away. Morrison will be back but he'll be two years out of football so much like Gillespie we can't be pinning our hopes on him.
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 21/07/2021 14:59:08 2362539 Link 0 |
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I kinda agree regarding Declan Bonner, I think his management team are probably better than any other in the County at the moment, I'm not sure if Declan is as meticulous as Jim McGuinness or has the same vision, like McGuinness didn't have natural players for every position in 2011, so he put Rory Kavanagh on a programme to build him up for midfield in 2011, if you don't have players for certain positions, compensate and adapt. Declan Bonner should be looking at our defence and planning something similar, My solution would be to beef up the half back line, Eoghan Ban Gallagher, Caolan Ward, Paul Brennan, with Hugh McFadden sitting in front of them, maybe look at Tony McCleneghan and other options. Physical defensive half back options who can also break forward. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1121 - 21/07/2021 16:58:41 2362578 Link 0 |
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I kinda agree regarding Declan Bonner, I think his management team are probably better than any other in the County at the moment, I'm not sure if Declan is as meticulous as Jim McGuinness or has the same vision, like McGuinness didn't have natural players for every position in 2011, so he put Rory Kavanagh on a programme to build him up for midfield in 2011, if you don't have players for certain positions, compensate and adapt. Declan Bonner should be looking at our defence and planning something similar, My solution would be to beef up the half back line, Eoghan Ban Gallagher, Caolan Ward, Paul Brennan, with Hugh McFadden sitting in front of them, maybe look at Tony McCleneghan and other options. Physical defensive half back options who can also break forward."]I don't think bonner will stay on he's giving it his all and win every ulster championship from u15 to senior. The man could feel enough is enough. But I would be worried about his successor if he does choose to go. You'll always get the usual suspects who fancy themselves who I wudnt let near the job. rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 21/07/2021 18:18:53 2362608 Link 1 |
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I kinda agree regarding Declan Bonner, I think his management team are probably better than any other in the County at the moment, I'm not sure if Declan is as meticulous as Jim McGuinness or has the same vision, like McGuinness didn't have natural players for every position in 2011, so he put Rory Kavanagh on a programme to build him up for midfield in 2011, if you don't have players for certain positions, compensate and adapt. Declan Bonner should be looking at our defence and planning something similar, My solution would be to beef up the half back line, Eoghan Ban Gallagher, Caolan Ward, Paul Brennan, with Hugh McFadden sitting in front of them, maybe look at Tony McCleneghan and other options. Physical defensive half back options who can also break forward."]I don't think bonner will stay on he's giving it his all and win every ulster championship from u15 to senior. The man could feel enough is enough. But I would be worried about his successor if he does choose to go. You'll always get the usual suspects who fancy themselves who I wudnt let near the job."]I agree with you on the usual suspects. This Donegal team has serious quality and depth of talent, a lot of less capable managers with clout within the County would probably fancy a shot, thinking they couldn't go too far wrong with that team and managing Donegal Seniors would be a big thing on their CV. But we are no longer a County satisfied with reaching the odd Ulster Final, we want to be challenging for and winning the All Ireland more regularly, its natural progression for a Footballing county with huge development work going on. We need a professional management team that can make that happen, and must be brutally critical in assessing the credentials of any candidate. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1121 - 22/07/2021 08:03:38 2362720 Link 2 |
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I would be happy to let Bonner stay on, I am in the camp that thinks he has done a pretty decent job. Remember what Rory was doing with the same group. Only real disappointment was Cavan loss, but its hard to stop a group getting complacent, they all include us the supports had one eye on dublin, so we played a part in it too. Maybe i'm disappointed in murphy playing against down as well, when he clearly wasn't fit. I could not ask more of the team on Sunday, just an array of moments at end of second half shaped the game. I do not see anyone else I would like to have in there. But the problem for me is Bonner has had it 4 years, he is still working full time, his family has grown up but still young & not all fled the nest just yet and this is a damn relentless job, demanding energy, time, effort and focus. Sacrificing relationships, holidays, time, career, family etc etc. An then you have an idiot like me judging him and not happy with what he has done for the county all out of his own time!!! So the problem for me is simply does he have the apatite or does he want to go at it again... If he does, then I for one will welcome him, who am I to say, No! fatfrog (Donegal) - Posts: 200 - 22/07/2021 12:17:26 2362799 Link 3 |
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I just think the squad needs new leadership, Bonner is a great Donegal man and has done a very good job no doubt about it. just looks to me like the wheels been coming off the cart lately, the defeat to Cavan, patchy league form and the mis management of Murphy in my opinion has caused us to lose the chance of another Ulster final, Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2757 - 22/07/2021 20:07:26 2362973 Link 1 |
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To get out of the heat I just watched the second half of the Tyrone game.Apart from the double whammy of the penalty and the sending off in the first half there were a lot of mistakes in the second that led directly to Tyrone scores:- gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1059 - 23/07/2021 16:20:11 2363220 Link 1 |
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Brian McEniff in his column signalling the need for an injection of new blood into the senior squad and 'that we have players that are not cutting the mustard'. Plain as day for anyone to see if you look at it from a perspective of what is best for the seniors to progress. StockholmGael (Donegal) - Posts: 112 - 23/07/2021 20:01:39 2363261 Link 0 |
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There was a lot more than that but the core issue is still the defense and has been for a long time. Mchugh was at fault for 3 points where he couldnt stop his man and ended up chasing shadows then. Plenty more issues where we couldn't put in a tackle at all, MFF hasn't been the same since he came back, not many other defenders able to defend so always going to be tough. At he end of the day though, it was fine margins, I thought the 14 lads done pretty good overall considering a man down and in that heat. To lose mcgee, miss a pen, a red card.. A lot of things just didn't go out way on the day. FootballGuy (Donegal) - Posts: 229 - 23/07/2021 20:09:18 2363265 Link 4 |
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That is such an easy thing to say. Based say on last year's club club championship or the last few underage teams who would are they missing and the answer is really nobody. That's not to say that they shouldn't look to add new players but no point replacing a player that's "not cutting the mustard" with a player who will cut it even less.
Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 697 - 23/07/2021 22:46:00 2363308 Link 0 |
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This is a very good observation, as if you watch the Derry match back carefully, it was a lot of unforced mistakes that made that a really tight game. - Of the 5 first half wides, 3 were relatively easy frees that we usually would have tapped over. - McBrearty and Jamie Brennan have possession away a couple of times each, in situations were their markers weren't that tight on them. - Pattons short kick-out was caught out a couple of times too, which lead to one point by McGuigan and a goal chance. - Ryan McHugh had zero impact, he was picking up McKinless, who had some impact, so bad matchups too didnt help. I understand mistakes happen, and its probably harsh to highlight individual players. But it was seriously frustrating, like we could have been 0-09 v 0-06 in front at half time, and it could have been a much more controlled game. Derry are a very good and well drilled side, but when you let any defensive physical side get in front, its always a tight match. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1121 - 23/07/2021 22:52:17 2363311 Link 1 |