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Replying To TheHermit:  "But none for the Dubs! I see the usual pathetic rant of 'won't someone please think of the children' in response to legitimate questions wasn't taken down. You'd have to laugh! Either its those posters themselves demanding posts are taken down or its the powers that be, its pretty sad which ever. Almost as sad as whichever of them is actually coming on here and pressing the red thumbs down on posts!"
I answered your post the hermit put my post wasn't put up, now I guess the dubs have the numbers on the main page and they seem to be able to say what they want and that's fair enough but why we can't say what we want to say on here on our own page is beyond me.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 07/04/2018 01:50:14    2091501

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Wow something I wrote was actually posted up, that's a refreshing change from the last 24 hours"
I saw a few of your posts were taken down, didn't think there was anything offensive in them at all, they just happened to disagree with someone. Am going to do my best not to get drawn into any threads over the summer, it's pointless when one side is gagged.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 07/04/2018 12:17:38    2091536

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "I saw a few of your posts were taken down, didn't think there was anything offensive in them at all, they just happened to disagree with someone. Am going to do my best not to get drawn into any threads over the summer, it's pointless when one side is gagged."
Aye what's the point, Jezz but there's a few of them on the main page that seem to think this is something more than just an internet forum the way they go on, talking about the sacrifices of volunteers, impressionable children and posters credibility, you'd swear people were running for the Dail!!!! When you consider they spend most of their time starting disingenuous and deliberately provocative topics the lack of awareness is disrupting.

Anyway lads as I said yesterday if Maher is playing for Duagh will we see him with Kerry. I think we badly need him if he's able for it.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 07/04/2018 14:10:10    2091548

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Aye what's the point, Jezz but there's a few of them on the main page that seem to think this is something more than just an internet forum the way they go on, talking about the sacrifices of volunteers, impressionable children and posters credibility, you'd swear people were running for the Dail!!!! When you consider they spend most of their time starting disingenuous and deliberately provocative topics the lack of awareness is disrupting.

Anyway lads as I said yesterday if Maher is playing for Duagh will we see him with Kerry. I think we badly need him if he's able for it."
The hermit the gagging of posters on this forum is serious unless of course you're a dub coz then you're free to say what you want.

Regarding Maher, definitely if he's up to it he should be in the squad although playing for Duagh in div 5 is a lot different to playing for Kerry against great teams like Mayo Galway and Tyrone and would his hips hold up to it I wonder.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 07/04/2018 14:58:05    2091555

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Aye what's the point, Jezz but there's a few of them on the main page that seem to think this is something more than just an internet forum the way they go on, talking about the sacrifices of volunteers, impressionable children and posters credibility, you'd swear people were running for the Dail!!!! When you consider they spend most of their time starting disingenuous and deliberately provocative topics the lack of awareness is disrupting.

Anyway lads as I said yesterday if Maher is playing for Duagh will we see him with Kerry. I think we badly need him if he's able for it."
I think he could be an important squad player but if he is not able then so be it. I believe he also has a very demanding professional career so I wouldn't blame him at all if he decides that he has given enough.

We are fairly sparse in midfield, if either Moran or Barry gets injured for a big game there really isn't anybody I would trust to slot I'm apart from a fully fit Maher. We spoke about Morley as a possible midfielder before but he is totally untested there at this level. Barry Dan is not an option yet if you are going up against better sides IMO.

We look ok for cover everywhere else.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 07/04/2018 15:48:40    2091558

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "I think he could be an important squad player but if he is not able then so be it. I believe he also has a very demanding professional career so I wouldn't blame him at all if he decides that he has given enough.

We are fairly sparse in midfield, if either Moran or Barry gets injured for a big game there really isn't anybody I would trust to slot I'm apart from a fully fit Maher. We spoke about Morley as a possible midfielder before but he is totally untested there at this level. Barry Dan is not an option yet if you are going up against better sides IMO.

We look ok for cover everywhere else."
Well with the Super 8's you are going to have massive games week in, week out, for the guts of a month so its inevitable they'll be injuries and lads having to sit out, very worried about midfield on this basis unless the likes of Maher can still go the road, otherwise as you say we are in trouble. Big Brendan O'Sullivan doesn't look the answer and Barry O is far too green.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 07/04/2018 17:11:46    2091561

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Well with the Super 8's you are going to have massive games week in, week out, for the guts of a month so its inevitable they'll be injuries and lads having to sit out, very worried about midfield on this basis unless the likes of Maher can still go the road, otherwise as you say we are in trouble. Big Brendan O'Sullivan doesn't look the answer and Barry O is far too green."
County board should bust a nut to get mark o'connor to come home, he's the missing piece.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 07/04/2018 20:42:56    2091576

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "County board should bust a nut to get mark o'connor to come home, he's the missing piece."
He has been involved in all of Geelong's games so far and seems to be very highly regarded down there so I think we need to accept that he is gone for the foreseeable future. Nothing the county board can do, nor should they try. He is living his dream of being a pro and good luck to him.

We need to hope that Barry and Moran stay fit and hopefully we have maher too.

Johnny Buckley can play there, and Morley, Griffen, or even O'Shea or Donnacha could slot in if we have an unprecedented injury crisis. Gavin Crowley also looked like he would be comfortable there, he has plenty of pace and power for the role but none of the above are ideal solutions really.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 07/04/2018 22:32:50    2091585

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "County board should bust a nut to get mark o'connor to come home, he's the missing piece."
Come home to what? The rain, wind and bitting cold, the cattle still in the stalls 20 days before "summer", nothing but bar, shop or hotel work unless you want to scrap your living herding cattle?!!!

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 08/04/2018 00:11:51    2091590

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "He has been involved in all of Geelong's games so far and seems to be very highly regarded down there so I think we need to accept that he is gone for the foreseeable future. Nothing the county board can do, nor should they try. He is living his dream of being a pro and good luck to him.

We need to hope that Barry and Moran stay fit and hopefully we have maher too.

Johnny Buckley can play there, and Morley, Griffen, or even O'Shea or Donnacha could slot in if we have an unprecedented injury crisis. Gavin Crowley also looked like he would be comfortable there, he has plenty of pace and power for the role but none of the above are ideal solutions really."
I'm not surprised that he made it down under, he's probably the best minor Iv ever seen, had it all athleticism great hands and two great feet and a calmness beyond his years and he made the guys he played with look better.

I recon with the correct strength and conditioning young diarmuid o'connor from na Gael Could be our answer in midfield in a couple of years , can't wait to see how he fares in the U20s this year.

Let's hope the management have something up their sleeves come summer.

Also iv never thought of o'shea As a possible midfielder does he play there for his club?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 08/04/2018 11:14:37    2091623

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Come home to what? The rain, wind and bitting cold, the cattle still in the stalls 20 days before "summer", nothing but bar, shop or hotel work unless you want to scrap your living herding cattle?!!!"
That's true the hermit although he could always get in to politics, they seem to be able to scrape a living :-) he could become a priest or a guard, Paul Galvin could get him a job as a model for his clothing range, I'm loving bogman by the way.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 08/04/2018 11:24:19    2091624

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "That's true the hermit although he could always get in to politics, they seem to be able to scrape a living :-) he could become a priest or a guard, Paul Galvin could get him a job as a model for his clothing range, I'm loving bogman by the way."
Hah, saw some promo video for that on FB, the man never worked a day in the bog in his life!! And as someone whose summers so often revolved around that tortuous enterprise let me just point out that you wouldn't get much use out of skinny jeans and white tank tops out there

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 08/04/2018 13:24:43    2091635

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Hah, saw some promo video for that on FB, the man never worked a day in the bog in his life!! And as someone whose summers so often revolved around that tortuous enterprise let me just point out that you wouldn't get much use out of skinny jeans and white tank tops out there"
And that's for sure the hermit :-)

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 08/04/2018 15:49:57    2091650

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "He has been involved in all of Geelong's games so far and seems to be very highly regarded down there so I think we need to accept that he is gone for the foreseeable future. Nothing the county board can do, nor should they try. He is living his dream of being a pro and good luck to him.

We need to hope that Barry and Moran stay fit and hopefully we have maher too.

Johnny Buckley can play there, and Morley, Griffen, or even O'Shea or Donnacha could slot in if we have an unprecedented injury crisis. Gavin Crowley also looked like he would be comfortable there, he has plenty of pace and power for the role but none of the above are ideal solutions really."
I don't know Gerry the more I think about it the majority of Kerry players play either at centre back, midfield or centre forward for their clubs - think through the team from last year, all 6 backs were either at 6 or 8. I genuinely think the game has evolved so much that even the introduction of the mark has become more a diagonal ball to the wing to a runner as apposed to the Jacko or Darragh style fielder.

I think you are right that Morley can do a job for us there but has anyone ever considered Donnachadh. His style of movement , his ability to find space could be a good attribute, he is also an excellent link man, physically big at six two and despite the concept that he isn't he is actually deceptively fast. Ok I'm no Usain Bolt but having played against Donnachadh his pace deceived us granted it was a bit ago but still he could be 50 minutes option.

At club level at present Jack Barry is untouchable for the Tralee side ok granted at Junior level but he is slicing through defenses and scoring a good bit which I felt was a weakness - Moran has had a few knocks of late so fear for his long term fitness. Seanie plays there for his club and divisional side and gave Maher enough of it last year in the championship. But look let's call a spade a spade. Moran, Maher, Buckley, Barry Sullivan, Brendan Sullivan are all from the same mold. Big strong but slow. In the league this year the partnership of Barry Sull and Jack Barry impressed me with the Dingle man hanging back and using his distribution to good effect.

Still considering our actual team for the Limerick or Clare game I still find myself debating 4 or 5 positions and still can not agree which is frightening considering the time of year. I just hope Fitz and Co know their 15.

Horsebox77 (Kerry) - Posts: 5491 - 08/04/2018 16:12:36    2091654

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Replying To Horsebox77:  "I don't know Gerry the more I think about it the majority of Kerry players play either at centre back, midfield or centre forward for their clubs - think through the team from last year, all 6 backs were either at 6 or 8. I genuinely think the game has evolved so much that even the introduction of the mark has become more a diagonal ball to the wing to a runner as apposed to the Jacko or Darragh style fielder.

I think you are right that Morley can do a job for us there but has anyone ever considered Donnachadh. His style of movement , his ability to find space could be a good attribute, he is also an excellent link man, physically big at six two and despite the concept that he isn't he is actually deceptively fast. Ok I'm no Usain Bolt but having played against Donnachadh his pace deceived us granted it was a bit ago but still he could be 50 minutes option.

At club level at present Jack Barry is untouchable for the Tralee side ok granted at Junior level but he is slicing through defenses and scoring a good bit which I felt was a weakness - Moran has had a few knocks of late so fear for his long term fitness. Seanie plays there for his club and divisional side and gave Maher enough of it last year in the championship. But look let's call a spade a spade. Moran, Maher, Buckley, Barry Sullivan, Brendan Sullivan are all from the same mold. Big strong but slow. In the league this year the partnership of Barry Sull and Jack Barry impressed me with the Dingle man hanging back and using his distribution to good effect.

Still considering our actual team for the Limerick or Clare game I still find myself debating 4 or 5 positions and still can not agree which is frightening considering the time of year. I just hope Fitz and Co know their 15."
Well if he doesn't know by this day next month you can throw your hat at it!
I'd be surprised if it wasn't Clare we are facing and them boys have a decent midfield to say the least so that game could tell a lot of how we'll far in the middle of the park this summer.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 08/04/2018 16:57:00    2091658

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Greg Horan of stacks was in panel for last game think he plays midfield for his club.

chicago09 (Kerry) - Posts: 694 - 08/04/2018 16:57:25    2091660

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Replying To chicago09:  "Greg Horan of stacks was in panel for last game think he plays midfield for his club."
Greg was very decent at underage , let's hope we uncover an unknown player the ilk of Paul Murphy a few years ago.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 08/04/2018 17:17:21    2091665

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Replying To Horsebox77:  "I don't know Gerry the more I think about it the majority of Kerry players play either at centre back, midfield or centre forward for their clubs - think through the team from last year, all 6 backs were either at 6 or 8. I genuinely think the game has evolved so much that even the introduction of the mark has become more a diagonal ball to the wing to a runner as apposed to the Jacko or Darragh style fielder.

I think you are right that Morley can do a job for us there but has anyone ever considered Donnachadh. His style of movement , his ability to find space could be a good attribute, he is also an excellent link man, physically big at six two and despite the concept that he isn't he is actually deceptively fast. Ok I'm no Usain Bolt but having played against Donnachadh his pace deceived us granted it was a bit ago but still he could be 50 minutes option.

At club level at present Jack Barry is untouchable for the Tralee side ok granted at Junior level but he is slicing through defenses and scoring a good bit which I felt was a weakness - Moran has had a few knocks of late so fear for his long term fitness. Seanie plays there for his club and divisional side and gave Maher enough of it last year in the championship. But look let's call a spade a spade. Moran, Maher, Buckley, Barry Sullivan, Brendan Sullivan are all from the same mold. Big strong but slow. In the league this year the partnership of Barry Sull and Jack Barry impressed me with the Dingle man hanging back and using his distribution to good effect.

Still considering our actual team for the Limerick or Clare game I still find myself debating 4 or 5 positions and still can not agree which is frightening considering the time of year. I just hope Fitz and Co know their 15."
Yeah we have more options that you'd think in the middle, it doesn't have to bee two big towers of men like you say. I think if Sean O'Shea gets a year or two to bulk up he could be a long term option there with Barry unless somebody emerges in the meantime.

Same as you I would be unsure of about 3-4 places at least for the summer. My guess at the minute is:

Murphy
O'Beaglaoich, Foley, Enright
P Crowley, Morley, Murphy
Moran, Barry
Burns, O'Shea, McCarthy
Clifford, Geaney, O'Brien

I would not be surprised to see Griffen, Casey, Gavin Crowley, Donaghy, JOD or Buckley starting though, and I don't think any of them would necessarily weaken the team.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 08/04/2018 17:34:49    2091673

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "Yeah we have more options that you'd think in the middle, it doesn't have to bee two big towers of men like you say. I think if Sean O'Shea gets a year or two to bulk up he could be a long term option there with Barry unless somebody emerges in the meantime.

Same as you I would be unsure of about 3-4 places at least for the summer. My guess at the minute is:

Murphy
O'Beaglaoich, Foley, Enright
P Crowley, Morley, Murphy
Moran, Barry
Burns, O'Shea, McCarthy
Clifford, Geaney, O'Brien

I would not be surprised to see Griffen, Casey, Gavin Crowley, Donaghy, JOD or Buckley starting though, and I don't think any of them would necessarily weaken the team."
What is Killian Youngs story - does anyone know did he together out against Moyvane today?

Me I'd be looking at Murphy too as my only Crokes starter so would thst make him the automatic captain? Can't see Fionn next or near the starting 15 considering the likes of Enright the 2 Crowleys the 2 of sullivans Murphy Morley foley Begley shanahan and then young or Griffin floating nor to mention gavin white if or when fit Fionn is well down the pecking order.

Horsebox77 (Kerry) - Posts: 5491 - 08/04/2018 22:40:52    2091738

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Replying To Horsebox77:  "What is Killian Youngs story - does anyone know did he together out against Moyvane today?

Me I'd be looking at Murphy too as my only Crokes starter so would thst make him the automatic captain? Can't see Fionn next or near the starting 15 considering the likes of Enright the 2 Crowleys the 2 of sullivans Murphy Morley foley Begley shanahan and then young or Griffin floating nor to mention gavin white if or when fit Fionn is well down the pecking order."
Not sure where Killian is, his injury record would be a concern but if he is fit you could put him above Enright. Fionn is a good half back and has suffered from being played out of position very often, I would keep him on the panel but not in the 15.

Would you not have Burns in there starting at 10? He really impressed me during the league, I think he will be a huge player for us in the coming years. Casey would also be very close and it may actually make sense to start him rather than O'Brien, who is lightning off the bench against tired defenders.

There will be a real scrap to get in to the match day panel this year.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 09/04/2018 00:03:40    2091748

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