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to me,i am going to sound like eamon dunphy when i say "a good player,not a great player".he has a lot of growing up to do,both in terms of discipline and use of the ball. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 15/08/2017 09:27:31 2033506 Link 1 |
The guy has all the skill in the world but he also has a lot to learn . Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 15/08/2017 09:36:16 2033510 Link 0 |
Very good and honest post. Good luck in the final Canuck.
Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 15/08/2017 09:47:35 2033513 Link 6 |
I've seen lots of people on here and various social media platforms saying they hope the Gleeson incident is not mentioned in the referees report. This is totally wrong. The sole reason Adrian Touhy was not banned was because the incident WAS included in the referees report. Barry Kelly stated he saw the incident and did not deem in necessary to take any action. He clearly thought Touhy's actions were not intentional. Because Kelly stated this the higher powers (CCC? Not sure who I'm talking about here.) had no basis to ban Touhy even if they wanted to. So people should be hoping that James Owens does likewise for Gleeson. If he states he did not see the incident the the higher powers have every right and are even obliged to investigate further. Hurling1Guru1 (Galway) - Posts: 244 - 15/08/2017 10:56:20 2033534 Link 0 |
The word is out that Owens is "happy" with how he reffed the game and that AG will be cleared to play in the final.
Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 15/08/2017 11:10:26 2033539 Link 0 |
So I read. The crucial detail is if James Owens states in his report that he saw the incident and choose not to sanction him. I find it impossible to believe he saw the incident in real time and choose not to sanction him. The whole saga hinges on this detail. I'll be accused of Galway bias here, but I would consider it an absolute farce if James Owens saw the incident in real time and didn't and choose not to sanction him. He clearly 100% intentionally interfered with an opponents helmet. Adrian Touhy was not as blatant as he was looking the other way. This is why Barry Kelly deemed it unintentional. Basically what I;m saying is that it all hinges on Owens' report: Stephen Bennett on Damien Cahalane - Barry Kelly did not see the incident, incident NOT in referees report - 1 match ban. Adrian Touhy on Bonner Maher - Barry Kelly did see it, deemed it unintentional and included it in report - no ban. Tadhg De Burca on Harry Kehoe - completely different process for this incident. Linesman saw it and a straight red given which means an automatic 1 match ban. It was De Burca/Waterfords job to prove the linesman wrong, proved an impossible task given video footage available. Conor Glesson incident is identical to Tadhg De Burca in terms of the process to get him off. He gets a one match man and its their job to prove the ref/linesman wrong. Given he clearly struck Horgan, however minimal the force, it is impossible to prove the referee was wrong to send him off. Hurling1Guru1 (Galway) - Posts: 244 - 15/08/2017 11:32:34 2033551 Link 0 |
It's looking likely that Austin Gleeson is going to get off and be free to play the final. Supermacs88 (Galway) - Posts: 248 - 15/08/2017 12:12:34 2033570 Link 0 |
Looking good for Austin Gleeson for the final. Proper order too - if he was to miss out on final for that 'nothing' incident it would have been a crying shame. we all want to see the top players playing on the biggest day and Austin certainly is a top player imonmyway (Mayo) - Posts: 113 - 15/08/2017 12:26:41 2033576 Link 1 |
I agree we all want to see him play. But whats the point on having a rule book if we're going to throw it out the window just because it's a class player and a final.
Hurling1Guru1 (Galway) - Posts: 244 - 15/08/2017 13:33:29 2033607 Link 0 |
Great if he plays. Rulebooks are fine and need to be respected until they aren't fine and then they need to be ignored or rewritten. This is one of those times. Every rule book gets thrown out the window at some point. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 15/08/2017 14:07:35 2033628 Link 0 |
Have you spotted how often your ignored or is that the point ??
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 15/08/2017 14:11:19 2033631 Link 0 |
Glad hes playing who wants to sit and watch the all Ireland without its best players , god we are Ban crazy Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 15/08/2017 14:16:05 2033634 Link 0 |
Where are ye getting yer information on Austin is he free to play in all ireland.
bud14 (Galway) - Posts: 296 - 15/08/2017 14:55:48 2033654 Link 0 |
No. As I keep saying it all hinges on the referees report. Anyone know when that comes out? over the next day or two I would imagine.
Hurling1Guru1 (Galway) - Posts: 244 - 15/08/2017 16:34:42 2033719 Link 0 |
Gleeson has wonderful ability but often doesn't make the most of it for the benefit of the team. Why on earth would you grab a fellas helmet when there has been so much of it highlighted recently. Daft thing to do. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 15/08/2017 16:50:29 2033726 Link 0 |
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/austin-gleeson-to-get-green-light-for-final-as-ref-makes-no-issue-over-helmet-tug-457074.html Not 100 % but that lad is fairly on the ball Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 15/08/2017 17:51:22 2033766 Link 0 |
Gleeson free to play. CCCC taking no action. Confirmed this evening. Hurling1Guru1 (Galway) - Posts: 244 - 15/08/2017 18:15:50 2033776 Link 0 |
Gleeson cleared to play in final.
catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 15/08/2017 18:16:47 2033778 Link 0 |
James Owens bottled it......can be no other explanation for this. wexford1997 (Wexford) - Posts: 88 - 15/08/2017 19:30:52 2033820 Link 0 |
You are correct and as of tonight proved correct. All the debate about if Tuohy or A. Gleeson was different is a mute point. As a Waterford supporter I feel more sorry for Conor and Tuohy 9if suspended)than I would have for Austin. Conor just had a hurley driven into him by a player who knew the game was up and retaliated by swing one handed on the legs. In all honesty hoe does that measure up with the belt in the testicles to Moran or the kick given to Barron ? Conor will not be cleared but there was two aggressors in this instance with him retaliating. How would all the hurlers on the ditch react ? Kudoos for not head hunting like some of your county men on here. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 15/08/2017 22:26:58 2033931 Link 0 |