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I think that's a fair point to be honest. It DOES seem that some counties and players are seen as fair game for criticism while others are above it. Tyrone over the past few years DO have a case at being singled out unfairly and you CAN see why they are pi**ed off at times.
Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9702 - 08/08/2017 01:04:57 2030739 Link 1 |
In my opinion there was nothing in it BUT I don't get paid to say this. Ciaran Whelan DOES and he is always struck down with the Arsene Wenger blindness when ANYTHING controversial or questionable happens involving Dublin. On the rare occasions he does.......it's always a NOTHING incident when it comes to Dublin........funny that!
Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9702 - 08/08/2017 01:27:14 2030745 Link 1 |
Oooh you are awful.......but I like you!
Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9702 - 08/08/2017 01:32:39 2030747 Link 2 |
No it just fridge's partisan attempt to sully the name of a decent amateur gaa player in the hope that the mere hint of impropriety will create a groundswell against Cooper and will lead to Cooper being carded or worse in the upcoming semi-final. Pathetic really. Just ask Lee Keegan :-) dubdec99 (Dublin) - Posts: 180 - 08/08/2017 09:02:24 2030776 Link 2 |
Showing your (our) age lad!
FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 564 - 08/08/2017 10:05:40 2030823 Link 0 |
Ha. If only I had the influence. You think a ref will read what I say and influence his decisions on Cooper. Hilarious. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 08/08/2017 11:52:21 2030903 Link 1 |
Would you include my county in that Ulsterman? Did you see the way a certain Sunday game presenter went after Donaghy last week? KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 08/08/2017 12:03:49 2030915 Link 0 |
To be fair Whelan wasn't asked about the Cooper incident, no more than Cooper (Gooch), wasn't asked about the Donaghy incident the previous week. It seems to be a deliberate policy on TSG not to ask panellists about contentious issues involving their own County. I've no doubt if they did then social media and forums such as this one would be full of complaints about a Dub or a Kerryman being given a free hand on the national airwaves to defend their county man which nobody else would get. AHP (Dublin) - Posts: 323 - 08/08/2017 12:39:53 2030940 Link 1 |
Just on the incident. Having seen the incident, Cooper goes in agressively. McManus swings an arm. Theres contact. Cooper goes down. I never mentioned yellow cards. Ive just given you what my eyes viewed. JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 08/08/2017 13:07:54 2030981 Link 1 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI4T3KEgobg have a look at it on the link and tell me when he got a slap, as usual Dublin players try to leave a mark on every play that get rid of the ball redbomb (Tyrone) - Posts: 167 - 08/08/2017 13:38:08 2031009 Link 0 |
So Whelan has to be asked when it's a Dublin incident but doesn't have to be asked if it's an Ulster team?
IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 08/08/2017 13:53:00 2031019 Link 0 |
Exactly. Same as McGuigan saying that there was nothing in the Star incident but that Connolly was always at it. Cooper kept his mouith tightly shut. They are damned if they do or don't!
DannyMcA (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 08/08/2017 13:59:49 2031025 Link 0 |
There was a time when there was no noticeable difference between the spirit football and hurling games were played in or the physicality in either game. However as we saw over the weekend and every championship in the last 10 years or more there is a huge difference now. All the biggest hits in Croke Park this weekend were in Sunday's game and yet there was no silly stuff in it. I think one of the main reasons is hurling lovers dont tolerate the type of nonsense in that clip, yet you have loads of football supporters making out Cooper done nothing wrong. He was holding his head before he even hit the ground, then lots of writhing about and an ice bag held to a place where he wasn't even touched.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 08/08/2017 14:27:01 2031044 Link 2 |
That's the opposite of what I said. The point I made was that Whelan, and Cooper the previous week, were deliberately excluded from that part of the conversation. Not that they need to be asked before they can give an opinion. As for the incident itself, McManus did swing an arm at Cooper, and from the replays on TSG it looked as though Cooper hit his head when he landed. That, IMO is why he needed the treatment. The defence of 'he barely hit him' or 'it wasn't much of a clip' is totally irrelevant. As has been said already striking, or ATTEMPTING to strike are both red card offences, although he probably only got the yellow for deliberately kicking the ball away well after the whistle was blown, which was also a bookable offence. AHP (Dublin) - Posts: 323 - 08/08/2017 14:59:08 2031075 Link 1 |
Johnny dived,for the second time at least this season.End of story lads.He dived so hard the team doctor had to hold ice to the part of his head that hit the ground :) seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 08/08/2017 16:18:33 2031140 Link 3 |
The whistle had been blown and McManus had kicked the ball away so Coopers only reason to go over the McManus was to get in his face and provoke a reaction. McManus hit him and Cooper went down to try and get him a yellow or maybe worse in my own opinion. Maybe Cooper was genuinely hurt but his motivation was to get McManus booked and his actions were the same. This isn't new lads, remember a Derry player exaggerating a push in 1996 to get a Monaghan player sent off.
FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 564 - 08/08/2017 18:46:31 2031239 Link 0 |
Even a blind and deaf Dub fan would agree that if Dermot Connolly decided to put mustard on an opponents leg and started chewing on it Whelan wouldn't say a word but if an ulster player as much as sneezed on an opponent he would be all over it.
IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 08/08/2017 20:06:44 2031277 Link 1 |
Only another two weeks of this selective condemnation before we move on to the next contentious issue no doubt. Who will be next up on the chopping block? DannyMcA (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 08/08/2017 20:20:23 2031282 Link 0 |
It says it all Danny when there are more posts in this topic than the majority of topics on HS Page 1. ...
Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3733 - 08/08/2017 21:21:54 2031309 Link 1 |
Probably any number of Tyrone players :)
seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 08/08/2017 22:14:02 2031344 Link 1 |