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Kerry have it easy.

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Replying To jimbodub:  "They've not had it handy in recent years

Well maybe 2014

No chance they would have beaten Dublin that year. Zero."
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2014 must have been something unknown in GAA history, a team not capable of making the final still being the "best"

Oh Oracle of knowledge of all things Gaelic Football can you go through the last 100 years and explain which year's Kerry won but were not actually the best team in Ireland and which year's Dublin didn't win but were??

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 03/08/2017 00:56:29    2028210

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I'll say one thing for Kerry, despite their path being usually easier than most's, they still manage to be at a level to win or lose narrowly in All-Ireland finals. They have be a very good team to do that.

KerryKillers (Dublin) - Posts: 711 - 03/08/2017 02:14:02    2028220

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Replying To Cavan_Slasher:  "Yet they have won All Irelands by only beating 4 teams inc two easy matches ?? How is that not easier than say Tyrone having to play 6?
Kerry got more time to prepare and less games to get injured in too."
They have won it playing both systems as have Tyrone. Kerry have won All Irelands through the back door. They are the only county who have yet to lose a qualifier. It's time for you to acknowledge that the reason they are the most successful football county is because they are the best football county . Look back through history.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 03/08/2017 10:20:25    2028283

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Ah look,
Kerry have it relatively handy I suppose but sure isn't that what was meant by being from Kerry by the grace of God.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 03/08/2017 11:22:52    2028318

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Replying To Cavan_Slasher:  "There is no point in posters trying to deflect by talking about this year's C/ship and this year's easy runs.
Kerry have it east ALL the time.
They won All Irelands by winning 4 games in the past, two of them relatively easy.
Ulster teams have quite commonly had to win 4 games just to get out of the province and sometimes 4 hard games. Tyrone had to beat Derry, Donegal and Down this year without having to play a preliminary round. None of those teams is ever easy and all have to potential to beat any other Ulster team even when not to the fore."
Can you explain how we have more league titles then anyone else then?, in a competition that we hardly take seriously until we are in danger of being relegated in recent years.

Or our success in club competitions at all grades and winning the schools all ireland over the last 3 or 4 years, oh and yeah minors are going for 4 in a row i believe this year??

Should be interesting to hear your take on these teams.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 03/08/2017 12:42:56    2028363

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Kerry are either the best or 2nd best team in the country. But they still have it easy in terms of run in, thats the point, not whether they are a poor side.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 03/08/2017 12:50:11    2028370

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Kerry are either the best or 2nd best team in the country. But they still have it easy in terms of run in, thats the point, not whether they are a poor side."
Exactly the OPs point! Well said.

DannyMcA (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 03/08/2017 13:17:28    2028387

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Kerry are either the best or 2nd best team in the country. But they still have it easy in terms of run in, thats the point, not whether they are a poor side."
Yeah Donegal really unlucky to have to face such a tough Galway team, Kerry would never be able to do anything such tough teams

PluckyUnderdog (Kerry) - Posts: 25 - 03/08/2017 13:34:06    2028402

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Replying To DannyMcA:  "Exactly the OPs point! Well said."
Because beating bad teams (who have a tiny fraction of money + population) with every game at home is such a tough challenge

PluckyUnderdog (Kerry) - Posts: 25 - 03/08/2017 13:35:53    2028403

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Kerry are either the best or 2nd best team in the country. But they still have it easy in terms of run in, thats the point, not whether they are a poor side."
Thats the point really Good teams Vs handy run, likely truth in both, never the twain will meet, lads will always discredit Kerry achievements and shout "straw all Irelands", while Kerry lads will believe they are the greatest football county of them all, the truth probably lies somewhere in between. But will never get consensus.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 03/08/2017 13:43:33    2028411

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Kerry are either the best or 2nd best team in the country. But they still have it easy in terms of run in, thats the point, not whether they are a poor side."
And my point is it doesn't matter what structure is put in place but we will still be the top team as can be clearly seen in all other grades.

This easy path nonsense keeps coming up to discredit our achievements but results in other formats dont back up the Cavan guys comments.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 03/08/2017 14:05:59    2028424

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Replying To PluckyUnderdog:  "Because beating bad teams (who have a tiny fraction of money + population) with every game at home is such a tough challenge"
Is it? Where did I say That? I understand the need for some Kerry supporters to deflect but let's try stick to the topic at hand.

DannyMcA (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 03/08/2017 14:14:32    2028429

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I can only think of 2 years in the last 20 where the eventual allirland winner didn't beat kerry along the way, Galway in 98 and again in 2001 where kildare beat kerry and meath harmered kerry and meath thought they had allireland won so usually the team that beats kerry wins the allireland.

galwayted (Galway) - Posts: 26 - 03/08/2017 14:31:36    2028434

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Replying To DannyMcA:  "Exactly the OPs point! Well said."
That is exactly the point they all keep well away from answering. They have an easier passage even if they are the best team most years.

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 03/08/2017 14:57:29    2028438

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Replying To galwayted:  "I can only think of 2 years in the last 20 where the eventual allirland winner didn't beat kerry along the way, Galway in 98 and again in 2001 where kildare beat kerry and meath harmered kerry and meath thought they had allireland won so usually the team that beats kerry wins the allireland."
Down 2010 :(

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 03/08/2017 15:00:34    2028440

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Replying To galwayted:  "I can only think of 2 years in the last 20 where the eventual allirland winner didn't beat kerry along the way, Galway in 98 and again in 2001 where kildare beat kerry and meath harmered kerry and meath thought they had allireland won so usually the team that beats kerry wins the allireland."
Cork in 2010. Down beat Kerry in the quarter-finals that year to preserve their proud championship record against the Kingdom.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 03/08/2017 15:17:51    2028451

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Replying To PluckyUnderdog:  "Yeah Donegal really unlucky to have to face such a tough Galway team, Kerry would never be able to do anything such tough teams"
This is still not the point of the thread. Kerry are either the best or 2nd best team in the country, but they have a handy run in nonetheless.

If people here are suggesting that they are either the best or 2nd best team in the country (if the bookies and results are to be believed every year), because they have an easy run in, then that is a point that I wouldn't make.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 03/08/2017 15:18:39    2028452

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Replying To galwayted:  "I can only think of 2 years in the last 20 where the eventual allirland winner didn't beat kerry along the way, Galway in 98 and again in 2001 where kildare beat kerry and meath harmered kerry and meath thought they had allireland won so usually the team that beats kerry wins the allireland."
Cork in 2010. Down beat Kerry in the quarter-finals that year to preserve their proud championship record against the Kingdom.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 03/08/2017 15:20:05    2028453

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Replying To galwayted:  "I can only think of 2 years in the last 20 where the eventual allirland winner didn't beat kerry along the way, Galway in 98 and again in 2001 where kildare beat kerry and meath harmered kerry and meath thought they had allireland won so usually the team that beats kerry wins the allireland."
Also Meath in 1999.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 03/08/2017 15:39:26    2028463

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Replying To OLLIE:  "Also Meath in 1999."
Good man Ollie. Keep them on their toes.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 03/08/2017 16:17:28    2028482

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