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Lads ye are trying to defend the indefensible ye have a huge advantage based on geography. Before the qualifiers ye could play 3 games to get to an all ireland final. That amount of games would only play a leinster final that's another advantage. Win 2 games in a hurling province and ye were in a semi final. Your great team of the 70's had to beat Tipperary, Cork, Sligo to get to an ALL-IRELAND final one year!!!!. As I mentioned your conversion rate from munster to all ireland's is poor due to the annual cake walk against hurling counties. jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 02/08/2017 12:45:03 2027830 Link 3 |
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Dublin played carlow, westmeath and kildare to win Leinster. Roscommon had to beat leitrim, Sligo and Galway to win connaught. Tyrone had a cakewalk in ulster. It says alot about other footballing provinces that tipp, clare and cork can mix it with anything in the other provinces bar the real top 3/4 teams who have separated themselves from the rest
tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 02/08/2017 12:59:59 2027846 Link 0 |
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Rubbish. There is no such thing as an easy All Ireland. To win the All Ireland you will eventually have to beat the best teams in the land. Ultimately despite the fact that they come out of a "hurling" province each year to win an All Ireland that is what Kerry have had to do.The one constant in Gaelic football is Kerry. They consistently throughout the history of Gaelic football have produced great teams. Other counties have produced a great team and then disappeared. The badge of authenticity for each of these counties greatest teams is that they have beaten Kerry. Look at Wexford between 1913-18 . Look at Kildare in the twenties, Roscommon and Cavan in the forties, Galway and Down in the sixties, Dublin in the seventies, Cork in the eighties, Armagh and Tyrone in the noughties and now this great Dublin team. Every one of them beat Kerry. The greatest team of them all was the Kerry team of the seventies. As I said there is no such thing as an easy All Ireland. Kerry have won 37 of them. The reason for that is because they consistently produce outstanding teams whilst other counties come and go. As for this guff about Kerry in to Leinster or Ulster don't make me laugh !!! If Kerry werte in Leinster there would be a lot less Leinster titles to go around for Leinster counties including Dublin. The same would hold true of Ulster and Ulster counties. The reason that Kerry have more All Irelands than any other county is because they are the best football county.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 02/08/2017 13:12:27 2027854 Link 7 |
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If the super 8s do nothing else it might at least improve the geographic knowledge of those who rarely leave the capital - unless you were having a dig at Wexford posters there?
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 02/08/2017 13:33:05 2027864 Link 1 |
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This is Kerry's Championship record against the other Munster teams: OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 02/08/2017 13:45:04 2027870 Link 1 |
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you can only beat whats in front of you. in fairness you could argue that Roscommon had it easy to this point, tyrone won all their games at a canter so it appears easy too. dublin the same........reality is all the provincial winners have probably had tougher training sessions than the provincial finals. Kerry could play in a province with mayo, Dublin and Tyrone and most likely still reach a quarter final at least. theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 02/08/2017 13:50:57 2027879 Link 0 |
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I did mate, i was talking about our south east rivals, why did you think i meant Kerry?
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 02/08/2017 14:16:28 2027902 Link 0 |
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Spot on Greengrass.
UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 355 - 02/08/2017 14:40:31 2027923 Link 4 |
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They've not had it handy in recent years jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 02/08/2017 14:51:41 2027928 Link 1 |
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Are we rivals now?
MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 02/08/2017 15:22:08 2027946 Link 1 |
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There is no point in posters trying to deflect by talking about this year's C/ship and this year's easy runs. Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 02/08/2017 15:48:18 2027959 Link 1 |
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Everyone is obsessed with Kerry football. Nice to see. aidan64 (Kerry) - Posts: 665 - 02/08/2017 15:48:37 2027960 Link 1 |
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Even nicer when Dublin are getting brought into a thread about Kerry....
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 02/08/2017 15:59:05 2027966 Link 1 |
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Rubbish. There is no such thing as an easy All Ireland. To win the All Ireland you will eventually have to beat the best teams in the land. Ultimately despite the fact that they come out of a "hurling" province each year to win an All Ireland that is what Kerry have had to do.The one constant in Gaelic football is Kerry. They consistently throughout the history of Gaelic football have produced great teams. Other counties have produced a great team and then disappeared. The badge of authenticity for each of these counties greatest teams is that they have beaten Kerry. Look at Wexford between 1913-18 . Look at Kildare in the twenties, Roscommon and Cavan in the forties, Galway and Down in the sixties, Dublin in the seventies, Cork in the eighties, Armagh and Tyrone in the noughties and now this great Dublin team. Every one of them beat Kerry. The greatest team of them all was the Kerry team of the seventies. As I said there is no such thing as an easy All Ireland. Kerry have won 37 of them. The reason for that is because they consistently produce outstanding teams whilst other counties come and go. As for this guff about Kerry in to Leinster or Ulster don't make me laugh !!! If Kerry werte in Leinster there would be a lot less Leinster titles to go around for Leinster counties including Dublin. The same would hold true of Ulster and Ulster counties. The reason that Kerry have more All Irelands than any other county is because they are the best football county.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 02/08/2017 16:19:57 2027981 Link 2 |
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Scared the life out of me at half time in the 2011 Leinster final. :)
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 02/08/2017 16:22:22 2027985 Link 0 |
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Hasn't this point been argued over enough on here. What I did find odd about Jim McG's article is that it seemed to focus on this year alone. He mentions how much of a relief not having to worry about Tyrone on the horizon must be for Kerry. So presumably next year when Kerry can face Tyrone, it won't be as easy. Was last year easy for Kerry facing Dublin in the semi's? Hardly Forpucksake (UK) - Posts: 130 - 02/08/2017 16:23:52 2027987 Link 1 |
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Yea but none of Derry, Donegal or Down have the ability to beat Kerry at the moment
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 02/08/2017 16:27:31 2027990 Link 0 |
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Greengrass " at the moment". They hadn't the ability to beat Tyrone either but look at Ulster football results over the years and they often had. Now in Munster on the other hand as McGuinness was saying ............ Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 02/08/2017 17:41:22 2028020 Link 0 |
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Derry, Donegal and Down often had the ability to beat Kerry ? I'm not too sure about that . Derry beat Kerry in 1958. Up until then none of them had the ability to beat Kerry. Down have beaten Kerry six times in championship football in three different decades. Over the last quarter of a century 2010 apart, can you honestly say Down had a team to beat Kerry. Since 2011 Donegal had the greatest team they have ever had . They played Kerry twice and it ended up one apiece. This rubbish about Kerry having it easy needs to be nailed. If Kerry were in Ulster there would be an awful lot less Ulster titles going around for Ulster teams. Kerry would do what they always do and that is they would adapt, improvise and overcome. They have lost four successive championship matches to Dublin. Three of them were very close matches that could have gone either way. In 1963, 64 and '65 they lost three successive championship matches to Galway. . They have never lost a championship match to Galway since. They lost to the great Kildare team n the twenties and came back to beat them. They did the same with the great Roscommon, Cavan, Galway, Dublin, Cork, Armagh and Tyrone teams. They will also eventually beat this Dublin team because that is what they do. They are the one constant in football and they are that for a reason. They are the best football county.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 02/08/2017 18:25:22 2028032 Link 1 |
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I was saying that Donegal, Derry and Down hadn't the ability to beat Tyrone either. You seem to have read it wrong which makes the rest of your post unnecessary.
Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 02/08/2017 18:36:07 2028034 Link 0 |