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All this information is out there (even posted here on links) but you have to read it no good staring at the cover and forming your opinion on the foreword. There are different tiers to all this, you have the full time organisation which generates the really big money they are a private company. Then the GAA ruling bodies, the county boards, the clubs and the members. The clubs have charity type status and cannot generate a profit they try to break even but they are separate entities and they may have full time staff depending on size. Revenue doesn't filter down to a club except in an indirect way. It doesn't go to county boards either who have to generate their own revenues as do clubs thats why clubs are pinned to their collars with volunteers. PUC/Croke Park will generate income they spend a huge amount on games promotion thats where most of the money goes as well as running costs etc etc. Its complex, its messy and about as transparent as frosty glass. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 02/08/2017 18:57:34 2028043 Link 3 |
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More in agreement with the cost of items within Croke Parke, not saying it should be subsidised in any way but the GAA should have terms that allow vendors to only charge to a certain ceiling/limit and GAA adjust their rent or lease accordingly. Why fleece your own? Think of it - 60k people at a game or double header in Croker, I guarantee you 45-40k of them are fully paid up GAA club members - in fairness as an 'armature' organisation it would just be a nice thing to do not to have vendors scr$wing 'your own' in 'you own' stadium... The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 708 - 03/08/2017 08:48:37 2028247 Link 0 |
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The GAA are said to be the second wealthiest amateur organisation in the word after the Vatican, but I think it's vice versa now. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 03/08/2017 13:39:28 2028407 Link 0 |
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The Vatican aren't amateur. They're on big pay to pray contracts.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 03/08/2017 17:08:18 2028508 Link 1 |
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There should be no vendors in croke park. It should be run in house. No doubt in my mind GAA headquarters are robbing the people by the way the manage croke park. Tickets are over priced and no more concerts should be allowed. We see the figures with attendance at Galway races on a downward spiral again this year. Main reason cost of tickets, food etc heartbroken (Galway) - Posts: 370 - 03/08/2017 22:40:07 2028661 Link 0 |
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The Galway races? Main reason: WEATHER! Ticks not too bad for the races this year - cost of food, or anything for that matter inside the racecourse is pretty hefty alright The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 708 - 04/08/2017 08:39:13 2028741 Link 1 |
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What price should tickets be for matches in Croke Park should be, bearing in mind the extra safety, stewarding, security, overheads, media, corporate etc costs when there are bigger crowds for end of season games? How do you know in-house cafes, shops and bars wouldn't be as poor a service and bad value as the vendors. I think the vendors should be made to improve their quality and service. Without concerts they'd lose millions of euro needed to run Croke Park all year round. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 04/08/2017 09:24:56 2028757 Link 0 |
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I kind of agree with the comments about the vendors in Croke Park. Very bad quality and not good value. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 04/08/2017 10:09:33 2028777 Link 1 |
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If you were getting what you thin you're paying for the value isn't awful. A fiver for a good cup of coffee and a fresh muffin isn't cheap but it's not the worst. But the coffee is woeful and the muffin tastes like it's months old. If they improved the quality and had more of a range on offer I think supporters would be happier.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 04/08/2017 11:30:26 2028822 Link 1 |
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Point taken, but I was of the opinion that the Vatican wasn't sovereign and that they qualified to be deemed as amateur, they may be on pay for pray as you point out, so too are the GAA powers that be paid big bucks as in salaries, expenses, etc. they are also encouraging pay to ,Manage pay to Play, and dare I say it pay for View.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 04/08/2017 19:57:53 2029084 Link 0 |
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The GAA have so much money they could have bought Neymar and then decided to send him down to play in the full forward line for Carlow. uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 04/08/2017 21:25:36 2029103 Link 0 |
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U will never find out. They are exempt from external audit. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 05/08/2017 09:39:12 2029195 Link 0 |
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The GAA accounts for 2016 were independently audited by Mazars.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 05/08/2017 11:06:38 2029219 Link 0 |
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Really? How much?
Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 05/08/2017 12:55:23 2029250 Link 0 |
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2016 income relating to stadium bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 05/08/2017 14:02:05 2029268 Link 0 |
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They have 25m in cash, 151m in assets
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 05/08/2017 14:16:28 2029274 Link 0 |
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The €151 million assets figure there Whammo is Croke Park alone.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 05/08/2017 15:05:34 2029285 Link 0 |
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Said by who? You? What does "amateur" mean in this sense? Because the GAA probably have dozens, if not hundreds of paid employees. In what sense is the Vatican amateur? It's a state, not an organisation. Even if you mean the RCC, it literally has thousands, if not millions of paid employees. You can throw in huge numbers of churches in that case, you think the Church of England is skint? The Church of Scientology is tax exempt in many countries, you can guarantee they are richer than the GAA. The NCAA in the USA makes over a billion dollars in revenue a year without paying it's players a cent. The GAA takes in about 90m. Even if it's non profit you're talking about then it's still off. There's thousands of hospitals out there with bigger budgets than the GAA. Or are the red cross/MSF etc. all operating worldwide, have millions of members and vast amount vehicles/equipment etc. but somehow spend less than a few million a year? CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1644 - 05/08/2017 15:11:51 2029287 Link 1 |
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Supersub, CastleBravo, this is déjà vu ! GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 05/08/2017 16:31:30 2029318 Link 0 |
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I'm well aware I've tread this path before, but I'd be failing humanity to let such stupidity go unchallenged. It's funny just how powerful the thought process of "I want it to be true, therefore it is true, despite all evidence to the contrary" dominates people's minds. Like how many comments on this thread (and other threads) still go "oh I'd love to see the GAA's accounts" "they never get audited" "I've never heard of their income being published" "the GAA never shows where the money goes" "who knows what the Croke Park heads get paid" etc. ? This is despite the fact the GAA produce a detailed set of accounts free for anyone to download and read. Every. Single. Year. link They even have publicised releases and news articles about the finances: link And photoshoots of the suits showing off the new finance reports: link What rock do people like under that they manage to miss this? A five minute search of the report would answer just about any question. (Not sure why, but the first link above keeps inserting "www.hoganstand.com/forum" into the url I posted, which just gives leads you to a 404 error unless you remove it) CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1644 - 05/08/2017 17:38:33 2029336 Link 0 |