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Replying To Laois76: "If you read Colm O'Rourke's article on the Sindo today he has a little go at Sky analysts trying to make a name for themselves. Peter Canavan trying to make a name for himself is a ridiculous assumption." almost comical for an rte pundit trying to have a go at a sky analyst for trying to make a name for himself, and peter canavan was a superior footballer to o rouke so why would he need to make a name for himself
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Replying To MTS: " Replying To alano12: "[quote=MesAmis: "he didnt have a valid point really, what about all the people who wish to watch the game on tv, a standard old fashioned whinge...not something you should be airing on radio, belongs in the pub..and galway coped rather well with the delay
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:1817 - 23/07/2017 23:18:39 2022150
Who was inconvenienced more, the handful of people watching the game on Sky or those who had travelled to see the game and then had it delayed?
Your whinge that the poor people sitting on their couches in the comfort of their own homes or on their barstools in their local shouldn't be inconvenienced is a very strange way to look at it.
Sky along with the GAA fixed the times of the games. Extra time was always a possibility in the first game and it should have been prepared for. It clearly wasn't thought through by Sky. Amateurish behaviour on Sky's part as well as the GAA." more than a handful and you know it too, how long was the game delayed mesamis?...i just wonder would there have been the same level of whinging had the game been broadcast on rte and delayed, wouldnt be like some to be looking for a reason to have a pop at sky now would it?"
Why would supporters bother traveling to inter county matches when we're treated like that. It was very disrespectful to the 10k + who were at the match.
Money talks I guess."]i dont mind a supporter having a reasonable complaint but another cheap dig on the radio, tv or newspaper by someone working for rte is a bit much
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 24/07/2017 14:38:26
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Replying To benjyyy: "I was at the Donegal game and we were standing on the terrace from 6.15. There were people around listening to the Mayo game and I had a feeling it would be delayed when it ended a draw. We then got confirmation and when the announcement came there was a fair bit of jeering (a lot from the stands even though they were sitting down!)
Listen, its not ideal but at the end of the day its 15 minutes. No big deal. I wasn't too bothered about it. The game did still start while the Mayo game was going on but that still an extra 15 minutes that everyone else got to see. If they had missed that then they would have missed the only competitive part of the game!" it was only delayed 15 mins?...ok please could people stop whinging,
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 24/07/2017 14:39:00
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Replying To MesAmis: "more than a handful and you know it too, how long was the game delayed mesamis?...i just wonder would there have been the same level of whinging had the game been broadcast on rte and delayed, wouldnt be like some to be looking for a reason to have a pop at sky now would it?
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:1819 - 23/07/2017 23:42:24 2022176
If it were RTÉ delaying games I'd say the same thing. Completely amateurish from the GAA and Sky to not take into account that there could be extra time in the 1st game. No excuse for it imo. And the excuse of "sure it's happened before" is BS. If it's happened before then it should never happen again!
I find your preference for inconvieniencing those who've made the most effort to watch the game over those who've merely made it as far as the couch or a barstool strange.
I'll take your word that the viewing figures for these Sky matches are good with a pinch of salt!" well its quite clearly more than a handful so lose the bias..only a handful at the match using your logic, i merely take issue with the amount of whinging, it was 15 mins mesamis,...a complaint not fit for radio, tv or a newspaper...and a lot of people would be ignoring this if it was rte and you know it,.
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 24/07/2017 14:42:17
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Very well said Cletus.
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That's why your always on in the 4pm game! They would never dream of putting te on at 2pm while the pubs were still open!!
Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts:187 - 24/07/2017 13:31:15 2022559
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You know that the pubs are still open at 4pm right?
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13710 - 24/07/2017 14:48:24
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well its quite clearly more than a handful so lose the bias..only a handful at the match using your logic, i merely take issue with the amount of whinging, it was 15 mins mesamis,...a complaint not fit for radio, tv or a newspaper...and a lot of people would be ignoring this if it was rte and you know it,.
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:1824 - 24/07/2017 14:42:17 2022613
A 15 minute delay that shouldn't have happened and was easily avoidable. There'd be plenty of complaining were it RTÉ as well and rightly so.
I don't think inconvieniencing those at the match is better than inconvieniencing those at home. Whether the match is on Sky or not is immaterial to the point I'm making. Even if the game were on RTÉ with many multiples the amount of people watching as on Sky, were relatively speaking the viewing figures are awful, I still don't think the players and fans at the second game should be inconvienienced if the first game, in another ground, goes to extra time.
It was stupidity on the part of the GAA and Sky and should not have happened.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13710 - 24/07/2017 15:03:10
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Replying To Inaroundehouse: "That's why your always on in the 4pm game! They would never dream of putting te on at 2pm while the pubs were still open!!" Maybe the pubs in Cavan close at 2 but here in the capital they stay open wayyyyy past 4 good man.
DannyMcA (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 24/07/2017 15:19:13
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Replying To CletusVanDamme: "Second attempt at posting this. (Don't know what was the issue with the first attempt was)
Yesterday I sat down to watch The Sunday Game expecting to watch 2 games and for some unexplained reason there is only 1 game. In Páirc Uí Chaoimh yesterday RTÉ had the cameras set up for the Waterford Wexford game, why oh why did they not show the Intermediate final also? They were showing "Junior", not the Junior Football Semi-Finals on that weekend but, Scharwanegger and DeVito's "Junior". (Not even the decent one by them. Twins BTW).
RTÉ play the poor mouth saying SKY get all the big games, they don't make proper efforts to promote other games. RTÉ lust for what they don't have. TG4 (on a fraction of RTÉ Sport's budget) have invested in successfully promoting Ladies Football and Under 21s. RTÉ Sport is an embarrassing wreck.
The Sunday Game (evening show) pads most of the show with highlights and analysis of the games I've seen that day on RTÉ and gives barely any coverage to the games I haven't. No one want to see a ten minute highlight reel of the game they already saw followed by a minute of highlights of games not shown live, this needs to be sorted out.
After the first game of the football was played this year (Sligo v New York) and a couple of Leinster Hurling Round Robin games, RTÉ had their 'Start of the Championship' show on the following week. Lads, the season had started (and ended for some). Also show the New York game, 8pm on a Sunday evening with players from all over Ireland playing ball for New York, neutrals would watch for curiosity especially if someone from their own county was playing.
The analysis is poor by the Sunday Game compared to Sky and rather than improve on this aspect the RTÉ pundits take potshots at Sky pundits. If it is a game not involving a Division 1 team, RTÉ pundits would rather discuss who will win the All-Ireland and ignore discussing the game in front of them in any meaningful way.
RTÉ get your own house in order first before cutting the legs from your competition." Very well said. This year RTE at least aired the NY v Sligo match on radio with a fellow New Yorker assisting with commentary. With this match being the "official kickoff" of the championship, you would think RTE would make more out of it. Think it should be given air time, but that's just my opinion.
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Not a fan of sky in the slightest. I think there punditry is over hyped. It's still the TV3 pundits with a few toys. Commentary would put you to sleep and people know how i feel about an amateur game on ppv tv.
However the game being delayed was sensible. If they didn't you would have people on here giving out about it.
As for the poster who wasn't home till half 12, where the hell were you going? I can get to Galway city in under 3 hours from Fermanagh. I was at the game on Saturday night and was home before 10 with a bag of chips for company. How the hell did it take you over 3 hours?
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 24/07/2017 15:42:53
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Replying To Inaroundehouse: "We have had 4 o Clock throw ins in Croke Park delayed because the Dubs fans couldn't come in on time!" How many times has that happened in the last 10 years???
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Replying To MesAmis: "well its quite clearly more than a handful so lose the bias..only a handful at the match using your logic, i merely take issue with the amount of whinging, it was 15 mins mesamis,...a complaint not fit for radio, tv or a newspaper...and a lot of people would be ignoring this if it was rte and you know it,.
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:1824 - 24/07/2017 14:42:17 2022613
A 15 minute delay that shouldn't have happened and was easily avoidable. There'd be plenty of complaining were it RTÉ as well and rightly so.
I don't think inconvieniencing those at the match is better than inconvieniencing those at home. Whether the match is on Sky or not is immaterial to the point I'm making. Even if the game were on RTÉ with many multiples the amount of people watching as on Sky, were relatively speaking the viewing figures are awful, I still don't think the players and fans at the second game should be inconvienienced if the first game, in another ground, goes to extra time.
It was stupidity on the part of the GAA and Sky and should not have happened." and you would have people whinging either way..15 mins no big deal
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 24/07/2017 23:01:55
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and you would have people whinging either way..15 mins no big deal
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:1826 - 24/07/2017 23:01:55 2022886
But if planned properly no one would be whinging. What have you got against that?
15 mins is no big deal, planning something properly is easier though unless you think we should put "throw in - 7ish pm" on tickets from now on.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13710 - 24/07/2017 23:51:58
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Replying To CletusVanDamme: "Second attempt at posting this. (Don't know what was the issue with the first attempt was)
Yesterday I sat down to watch The Sunday Game expecting to watch 2 games and for some unexplained reason there is only 1 game. In Páirc Uí Chaoimh yesterday RTÉ had the cameras set up for the Waterford Wexford game, why oh why did they not show the Intermediate final also? They were showing "Junior", not the Junior Football Semi-Finals on that weekend but, Scharwanegger and DeVito's "Junior". (Not even the decent one by them. Twins BTW).
RTÉ play the poor mouth saying SKY get all the big games, they don't make proper efforts to promote other games. RTÉ lust for what they don't have. TG4 (on a fraction of RTÉ Sport's budget) have invested in successfully promoting Ladies Football and Under 21s. RTÉ Sport is an embarrassing wreck.
The Sunday Game (evening show) pads most of the show with highlights and analysis of the games I've seen that day on RTÉ and gives barely any coverage to the games I haven't. No one want to see a ten minute highlight reel of the game they already saw followed by a minute of highlights of games not shown live, this needs to be sorted out.
After the first game of the football was played this year (Sligo v New York) and a couple of Leinster Hurling Round Robin games, RTÉ had their 'Start of the Championship' show on the following week. Lads, the season had started (and ended for some). Also show the New York game, 8pm on a Sunday evening with players from all over Ireland playing ball for New York, neutrals would watch for curiosity especially if someone from their own county was playing.
The analysis is poor by the Sunday Game compared to Sky and rather than improve on this aspect the RTÉ pundits take potshots at Sky pundits. If it is a game not involving a Division 1 team, RTÉ pundits would rather discuss who will win the All-Ireland and ignore discussing the game in front of them in any meaningful way.
RTÉ get your own house in order first before cutting the legs from your competition." Great post. RTE TV complacently and arrogantly think they're the only show in town for GAA. How can they even contemplate asking for a licence fee increase when their coverage is so dominated by the top counties. Early rounds and qualifiers all most Division 3 and 4 supporters can expect is 2 minutes of their game. But, as you rightly say, we'll get highlights of the games already shown live by RTE plus analysis. Can they not cut that part down and show more coverage of so-called weaker counties? Or even show extended highlights of all games they have footage for on the Player?Why does the Sunday Game highlights show have seven analysts? Assuming each one is getting a few quid. They could save a few quid by having less analysts and maybe show more of the lower division counties either on Sunday night or on the Player.
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Replying To GreenandRed: "Great post. RTE TV complacently and arrogantly think they're the only show in town for GAA. How can they even contemplate asking for a licence fee increase when their coverage is so dominated by the top counties. Early rounds and qualifiers all most Division 3 and 4 supporters can expect is 2 minutes of their game. But, as you rightly say, we'll get highlights of the games already shown live by RTE plus analysis. Can they not cut that part down and show more coverage of so-called weaker counties? Or even show extended highlights of all games they have footage for on the Player?Why does the Sunday Game highlights show have seven analysts? Assuming each one is getting a few quid. They could save a few quid by having less analysts and maybe show more of the lower division counties either on Sunday night or on the Player." agree with post above..Sunday evenings during the winter when League is on we see the highlights of Dublin games and Tyrone for some strange reason..Mayo if they are playing...then we are "told" in Division 1B there were wins for Down, Monaghan, Roscommon and Derry and if your quick enough you might get to read the scores...the lower divisions the same treatment...Sunday nights coverage generally kicks off with the big game of the day that we have seen already..that game should be last in my view..People give out that SKYS coverage an analysis is poor..I don't think so..its diffrerent and interesting..having the rights to the glamour games of a Sat evening is another issue dealt with in other topics/posts on Hoganstand..
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Where's mediaman these days? He must surely have an opinion on this, well, some stats anyway!
MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 25/07/2017 10:59:06
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Cheapskates who cant afford pay for Sky ? Im a 47 year old man (divorced) living on my own in Cappataggle from Galway. I trained as a welder in the '70s before moving into accountancy. I now work in Galway city nad for anyone to suggest they cant afford sky sports or even the daily sky sports pass is crazy to me.
If people wanted to watch GAA bad enough they can come up with the ten EUR.
Some folk out there just always looking for something to give out about.
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Replying To AustinGleeson6: "Cheapskates who cant afford pay for Sky ? Im a 47 year old man (divorced) living on my own in Cappataggle from Galway. I trained as a welder in the '70s before moving into accountancy. I now work in Galway city nad for anyone to suggest they cant afford sky sports or even the daily sky sports pass is crazy to me.
If people wanted to watch GAA bad enough they can come up with the ten EUR.
Some folk out there just always looking for something to give out about." Welders and accountants are known for their poor incomes.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 25/07/2017 11:56:57
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Replying To alano12: "almost comical for an rte pundit trying to have a go at a sky analyst for trying to make a name for himself, and peter canavan was a superior footballer to o rouke so why would he need to make a name for himself" He didn't actually say that if you read the article.....
Derealbqlover (Mayo) - Posts: 4 - 25/07/2017 16:36:31
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