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Top 6 forwards.

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Replying To TheWestIsAwake:  "Lets hope he stays clear of injuries, forgot him from my list of players who could potentially win All Stars in the coming years.

As for Cillian O'Connor he needs to start contributing more from play in the big games, his record in semi's and finals is very average."
10. R mchugh
11. O'Donoghue
12. Kilkenny
13. Geaney
14. Quinlivan
15. Mcmanus

HuddHastings (Longford) - Posts: 144 - 20/07/2017 19:01:50    2020190

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Who's this Murphy lad that people have in their team? Is it the lad that used to be good 3-4 years ago for Donegal?"
Go back to Specsavers

Very Impressed by Feely the midfielder from Kildare, would pay in to see him play, great fielder , kicks off both feet and really athletic
Looks the real deal, Kildare have the basics for an excellent team, 2-3 on the side who need more confidence but given 2-3 years i expect them to possibly contest an ALL Ireland final

Pity the guts of a team from tipp jumped ship as they had a team which would have had least won a munster title, maybe that ship has sailed
WHY dont they want to play !!!
Seems Odd !!!
Had the joy of watching declan browne play for Tipp at croke park, pure class, HE loved and honoured the jersey, a real gentleman from what i have been told

thereporter (Donegal) - Posts: 38 - 20/07/2017 19:07:55    2020192

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My top 6 would normally include Murphy and Kilkeeny but both seem to be playing most of their football this year around the middle sector of the field.
My six then are:
M Donnelly A O'Shea P Harte
O'Donoghue Quinlivan C O'Connor

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 20/07/2017 19:29:02    2020201

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Replying To Breffni39:  "I'm a big critic of CO'C but fairness you could definitely make a case for him here. Scores and creates plenty from play."
O'Connor is playing in a relatively poor forward line so has to create most of his own scores. He shows great leadership qualities and has dragged his team to several of their victories. When teams play Mayo they can concentrate their efforts on stopping O'Connor whereas against Dublin, Kerry etc there are a number of forwards that they have to try to contain (McManus is in more or less the same situation).

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 20/07/2017 19:40:00    2020208

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Replying To sligo joe:  "Again lads Murphy might wear no. 14, but there is no way he plays as a forward, we all know he can but he doesn't, a pity"
It's more than just a pity, it's absolutely baffling!

Murphy has destroyed just about every team in he country at one point or another from full forward.

He's immense around the middle but you don't score goals from 65 yards. If Donegal do run into Kerry in the quarter or semi final i cant see them beating them with McBrearty toiling away on his own up front.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5018 - 20/07/2017 20:08:49    2020213

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Replying To sligo joe:  "Four championship games to date, scores from play, Antrim 1pt, Tyrone 1pt, Longford 0pt, Meath 3pts, not very impressive, don't get me wrong, Murphy would be well in there in my opinion as one of the best six forwards if he was used as an attacker, but I for one can't support the way he is used as a sweeper/defensive midfielder by his county, a waste of talent."
To be fair you've proven your previous post as incorrect with this one.

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 20/07/2017 20:19:23    2020218

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Replying To greatpoint:  "To be fair you've proven your previous post as incorrect with this one."
In fairness I don't believe I have "proven" anything in my three posts on this thread. The basic substance of my opinion as evidenced in the three posts is that while Michael Murphy has shown in his underage days and early years as a senior that he can be one of the top forwards, the way he is used by the present and previous management means that he for some time now is no longer used in an attacking role. It makes no sense to compare him to the present top forwards/scorers because he quite simply is not a forward, he is a defensive midfielder/sweeper.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 685 - 20/07/2017 22:00:58    2020254

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Replying To sligo joe:  "In fairness I don't believe I have "proven" anything in my three posts on this thread. The basic substance of my opinion as evidenced in the three posts is that while Michael Murphy has shown in his underage days and early years as a senior that he can be one of the top forwards, the way he is used by the present and previous management means that he for some time now is no longer used in an attacking role. It makes no sense to compare him to the present top forwards/scorers because he quite simply is not a forward, he is a defensive midfielder/sweeper."
You said he often scores zero points from play and then in your next post stated that he's scored from play in 3 out of 4 of his Championship games this year

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 20/07/2017 22:12:59    2020259

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I would have to say the best foward is geaney from Kerry the other five would be Daniel Flynn James odonoghoe Paul mannion con ocallaghan and Mattie donnolly there my six on form so far

Rogers (Westmeath) - Posts: 20 - 20/07/2017 22:25:45    2020267

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Replying To thereporter:  "Cant be having Mayo's COC , good player but not great from general play , not got that extra spark
Bet Mayo wish they had another Ciaran Mc Donald he was unreal

Forwards win ALL Irelands

Mickey Linden and the famous forwards Down had

Pauric Joyce, Peter Canavan , Colm mc Fadden [never got the credit he deserved



Anyone could pick 6 forwards but you need balance in a team , ball winners , playmakers etc

Mc Manus Monaghan has got to be included as he has carried Monaghan for years and always produces"]lol yes McDonald was an A1 player. COC is C1/B3.....

GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 20/07/2017 22:29:19    2020271

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Replying To thereporter:  "Go back to Specsavers

Very Impressed by Feely the midfielder from Kildare, would pay in to see him play, great fielder , kicks off both feet and really athletic
Looks the real deal, Kildare have the basics for an excellent team, 2-3 on the side who need more confidence but given 2-3 years i expect them to possibly contest an ALL Ireland final

Pity the guts of a team from tipp jumped ship as they had a team which would have had least won a munster title, maybe that ship has sailed
WHY dont they want to play !!!
Seems Odd !!!
Had the joy of watching declan browne play for Tipp at croke park, pure class, HE loved and honoured the jersey, a real gentleman from what i have been told"
Whys that? Show me Murphy scores from play compared to Quinlivan, brogan, McManus, geaney, etc the last 2-3 years...
The thread is about the top 6 forwards and he has contributed nothing as a forward for a few years, literally. I'd take mcbreatty before him all day long.
Bernard Brogan has done it for years and yet never gets half the credit
Murphy is the Michael Owen of football.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 20/07/2017 23:07:56    2020309

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Whys that? Show me Murphy scores from play compared to Quinlivan, brogan, McManus, geaney, etc the last 2-3 years...
The thread is about the top 6 forwards and he has contributed nothing as a forward for a few years, literally. I'd take mcbreatty before him all day long.
Bernard Brogan has done it for years and yet never gets half the credit
Murphy is the Michael Owen of football."
That's because he plays in midfield now, so yeah, there is not much evidence of his scoring prowess in recent years. At the same time, we all saw enough of him before he moved to midfield to know that he is the best number fourteen in the game. If I was putting out a team tomorrow that's where he plays, and I can't think of anybody I would want there ahead of him. If we want to be really picky and only include players that currently play there then fair enough, he's out.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 20/07/2017 23:22:20    2020315

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Whys that? Show me Murphy scores from play compared to Quinlivan, brogan, McManus, geaney, etc the last 2-3 years...
The thread is about the top 6 forwards and he has contributed nothing as a forward for a few years, literally. I'd take mcbreatty before him all day long.
Bernard Brogan has done it for years and yet never gets half the credit
Murphy is the Michael Owen of football."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AApPXc3TkXo&feature=youtu.be&t=51

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 21/07/2017 00:40:31    2020344

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Here are some good forwards from outside the big teams that deserve an honourable mention if nothing else:

Sexton and Turbidy from Clare
Sweeney from Tipp
Clarke from Armagh
Murtagh from Roscommon
Comer and Walsh from Galway
Ian Ryan from Limerick
Broderick from Carlow (current top scorer in championship 2017)
Mulligan from Leitrim when back from injury
Brophy from Kildare
Heslin from Westmeath

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 21/07/2017 01:02:31    2020349

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The top 6 forwards, score getters when deployed near goal are
Kilkenny
Connoly
Mc Manus
Geaney
Murphy
O Donoghue

Imagine that 6. I'm aware Kilkenny and Murphy play out the field.

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1142 - 21/07/2017 01:37:44    2020353

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10.kilkenny
11.murphy
12.connolly
13.mcbreaty
14.geaney
15.o'donaghue

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 21/07/2017 07:58:02    2020363

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "That's because he plays in midfield now, so yeah, there is not much evidence of his scoring prowess in recent years. At the same time, we all saw enough of him before he moved to midfield to know that he is the best number fourteen in the game. If I was putting out a team tomorrow that's where he plays, and I can't think of anybody I would want there ahead of him. If we want to be really picky and only include players that currently play there then fair enough, he's out."
There's no evidence that he's the best number 14 in the game what so ever. He hasn't played there in 3 years so it's crazy to conclude he still is.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 21/07/2017 09:29:14    2020385

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Who's this Murphy lad that people have in their team? Is it the lad that used to be good 3-4 years ago for Donegal?"
Ah here, used to be good murphy is still very good although his role has changed

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 760 - 21/07/2017 09:39:23    2020389

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Replying To neverright:  "My top 6 would normally include Murphy and Kilkeeny but both seem to be playing most of their football this year around the middle sector of the field.
My six then are:
M Donnelly A O'Shea P Harte
O'Donoghue Quinlivan C O'Connor"
No Dubs that may be the first team on this without one :P

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 760 - 21/07/2017 09:44:33    2020391

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Replying To sligo joe:  "In fairness I don't believe I have "proven" anything in my three posts on this thread. The basic substance of my opinion as evidenced in the three posts is that while Michael Murphy has shown in his underage days and early years as a senior that he can be one of the top forwards, the way he is used by the present and previous management means that he for some time now is no longer used in an attacking role. It makes no sense to compare him to the present top forwards/scorers because he quite simply is not a forward, he is a defensive midfielder/sweeper."
You have proved what I said about him having a good scoring return for a midfielder. You do realise he plays as an out and out midfielder now? Have you seen him play in the last few years? Murphy, in my opinion is now one of the best midfielders in the game and we already know he's arguably the best full forward when he plays there. The thread asked us to pick our 6 best forwards and if you were picking a team that didn't require Murphy at midfield then he definitely makes the forward line. Imagine him playing in the forward line for Kerry, Dublin or Mayo?? I said supporters of all those teams would take him in a heartbeat.

Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 21/07/2017 10:19:11    2020416

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