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why bother paying big expenses to an outside manager when a local could fail just as spectacularly valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 18/09/2017 12:39:53 2047403 Link 1 |
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It appears Dublin have a structure in place, I.e. Jim Gavin going from U21 to senior, Dessie Farrell going from minor to U21 and surely would be next in line to replace Gavin. Imagine having the foresight to coach/train/give Westmeath based coaches/managers the training, knowledge, and skills required to have a conveyor belt of coaches/managers lined up for the next 10 or 15 years. Wmeath2 (Westmeath) - Posts: 176 - 18/09/2017 12:56:48 2047422 Link 0 |
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Just got info from a reasonable reliable source that Magee the former dublin footballer and the oitgoing Wicklow manager has been offered the job. Hope for once this source is wrong because thats not a forward move unless they have paired him up with a local trainer who knows the players and how to coach Paulknows (Westmeath) - Posts: 114 - 19/09/2017 17:30:59 2048194 Link 0 |
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We are bad but no way in hell are we that bad. No chance this going through
Djkray (Dublin) - Posts: 152 - 20/09/2017 01:18:47 2048392 Link 0 |
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At this stage i reckon the county board are just looking to get anyone in. The new manager will have to start putting plans in place heading to the end of the year. Dont know much about Magee, apart from when he was over Wicklow. Has he managed anyone else? Its a step down from Cribbin i think, but maybe they are left with no choice. As someone mentioned earlier, if they got in a local coach it might help. But the new manager may want to bring in his own coach. badger11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 36 - 20/09/2017 09:14:23 2048418 Link 0 |
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I assume that any recommended candidate will need to be ratified by the clubs at a county board meeting, the next one is fixed for Weds 27th Sept. BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1131 - 20/09/2017 09:41:34 2048427 Link 0 |
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Magee organised a 3 year Sponsorship for our county in his last year as manager so he could get some funding for his team. He also arranged interviews for some players for jobs, got a couple of the players scholarships in Ucd all through his contacts as a Dub. He had 2 football coaches with him to help develop our players because we are so fare behind. The results might not of gone his way but it wasn't from the lack of coaching or game plan. Unfortunately it was more to do with the quality of players we don't have but he has given 22 championship debuts in 6 championship matches & over 30 league debuts in 3 league campaigns. Magee for what I could see did everything he could for the players to try & improve them on & off the field. I have read a few things on here about him, I felt it is very unfair. You should never judge a book by its cover.
Wicklowfan1 (Wicklow) - Posts: 46 - 20/09/2017 16:04:11 2048624 Link 2 |
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we've better football coaches in the county who actually know what players are out there I don't see the point in spending money on a lad to travel down to the county valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 20/09/2017 18:08:22 2048690 Link 0 |
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Players, even at club level have more respect for a stranger. If they know him they will disregard him and if he is one of our own he will be accused, rightly or wrongly of favoring his own club men.
dbpcmi (Westmeath) - Posts: 66 - 20/09/2017 19:18:06 2048722 Link 0 |
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I dont see the problem with Magee. Its not like we have an abundance of talent at our disposal so if he is half decent and isnt gonna put the County under a mountain of debt i say go for him. You cant make a silk purse out of a sow's ear! We are in for a number of years at Div 3 & 4 level i'm afraid until some emphasis is put back into underage in this county. Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 601 - 21/09/2017 10:43:43 2048919 Link 0 |
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Have it from a very reliable source that Colin Kelly is the name that will be put up for ratification next Wednesday
Baldy1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 84 - 21/09/2017 14:45:55 2049029 Link 0 |
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fine with that too! :-) Personally i dont think it really matters as its a 1 or 2 year job and we'll be back looking again. What i would be concerned about is what we do with underage in the meantime.
Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 601 - 21/09/2017 15:37:53 2049058 Link 0 |
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Everything Wicklowfan has said on here is exactly as it isn't. Seriously, this poster is clearly deluded. And that's coming from someone with actual knowledge of what he thinks he knows. Ask me which parts are complete untruths and I'll tell you but don't accept what he is saying as being anyway close to how things are wicklu (Wicklow) - Posts: 331 - 22/09/2017 14:34:45 2049356 Link 0 |
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nothing is the answer to that
valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 23/09/2017 17:09:13 2049637 Link 0 |
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I agree underage needs renewed focus and attention. However if the senior position is viewed as an interim measure on a 1-2 year basis then I can't understand why not blood a new manager from within? Mangan, McDonnell, Keane. Someone like this and let them get the experience.
Chops (Westmeath) - Posts: 775 - 24/09/2017 22:35:34 2050082 Link 0 |
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county board seem terrified of appointing a local manager
valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 25/09/2017 08:01:08 2050149 Link 0 |
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Can i ask what is the obsession with John Keane for the senior job. He is in management a wet week. Hasnt done anything of note yet but people keep putting his name up as a contender for the top job. Give the guy a break and let him get on with what he is doing. If he does well the top job will naturally come to him. Same with Mangan. Last thing we need to to put a guy in who isnt ready and expect miracles from him. This for me is a stop gap appointment. Kick the can down the road a few years and wait and see what emerges from underage. Football is very poor in the County judging from what i have seen in the SFC to date and i dont see much promise coming from underage either. This is why i say that the focus has to move to underage and ensure that talented youngsters are not lost to Rugby, Soccer, etc. Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 601 - 25/09/2017 13:10:35 2050291 Link 0 |
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Have to agree with you regarding the sfc ,the standard of the championship has dropped considerably over the last 3 years.Most senior teams are really intermediate standard.
footiemad (Westmeath) - Posts: 733 - 25/09/2017 13:17:29 2050294 Link 0 |
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County Board not terrified at all with a local manager , All the clubs in westmeath were asked to nominate a candidate for the position but how many responded , the answer is Zero . Maybe some of them club managers will come on board with the new man and get experience and take over in a couple of years
nearlymadeit (Westmeath) - Posts: 85 - 25/09/2017 15:17:19 2050359 Link 0 |
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For sure that standard is not fantastic. But it's no worse than the majority of years gone by. And better than many. There have been poor teams in the senior chanpionship every year I can think of, and I'm not young. Garrycastle winning Leinster in 2011 didn't mean the Westmeath championship was strong. Only Shamrocks could put it up to them then. There is a dominant team at the moment, but that's nothing new in this county (and is replicated in many other counties).
Andy_Capp (Westmeath) - Posts: 282 - 25/09/2017 16:11:45 2050388 Link 0 |