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Sorry to hear that Damo, went over to the dark side as a young man for a good few years but am now gambling free, I hope someday it happens for you!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 12/07/2017 18:11:51    2015749

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I don't see why just because some people have a problem with gambling that we should all pretend that betting doesn't exist. 1000's of people have drink problems too, should we ban the mere mention of alcohol?

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1646 - 12/07/2017 19:57:15    2015789

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "I don't see why just because some people have a problem with gambling that we should all pretend that betting doesn't exist. 1000's of people have drink problems too, should we ban the mere mention of alcohol?"
Eh I think you'll find a ban from any alocohol company sponsoring a club or county team.... brought in forever ago for cigarettes too.. AnywAy my tuppence worth ends here .. each to their own

KeshGFC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 334 - 13/07/2017 15:30:27    2016139

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I love a bet on the GAA games.. it don't rule me life . It's not a crime! Had a right rattle at Limerick u21s last night. Walking cert they were on the handicap.
Only bet what you can afford to lose!
Not everyone has problems with gambling.
Not everyone has problems with Drink either.
The only problem with drink I ever had was getting the money for it.
So at least if you win gambling you have plenty of money for drink!

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 13/07/2017 16:28:31    2016167

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I enjoy gambling and do so in extreme moderation. I.E Going to the races, if I get a tip or every now and then. I wouldn't bet every week...every second or third. I might bet 2 weekends in a row and then not again for 5 or 6 weeks.

The problem I see is betting at the bar's nowdays. Lads with a few pints on board get brave and while it can seem harmless at first, it's a habit that some can find hard to break out of.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 13/07/2017 16:56:40    2016180

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One of the more worthy threads in this forum. I'm sure HS had no mailce in the article but it does reflect the new normal.
Let's not pretend that everything is grand. I grew up in a rural pub, literally!! My bedroom was directly over the bar. To me at that time normal drinking was getting 6 or 7 pints into you as fast as possible, make sure to keep up with those in your round at all costs and never refuse a drink even if you have two full pints sitting in front of you already. It's still "normal". Gambling is no different but has moved a long way from the occassional bet on Cheltenham or the Grand National thanks to technology. It has always amused me how the Horse Racing industry feels that gambling is an essential part of the sport. People used to say the same about a drink and a smoke, that one couldn't be done without the other. Now GAA and Soccer is going the way of horse racing. I never an alcohol problem ( I do drink) but did have a gambling one (thanks DamotheDub for inspiring me here). Luckily I got myself out of it but not before a lot of damage was done. Technology was the medium through which my addiction was fed. I listen to young lads in bars talking about their bets and success and know that in a percentage of those cases there is a lot of denial going on. Nobody is suggesting banning either but anyone who denies there is a problem is not in touch with reality

Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 13/07/2017 23:12:49    2016305

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Replying To Sindar:  "One of the more worthy threads in this forum. I'm sure HS had no mailce in the article but it does reflect the new normal.
Let's not pretend that everything is grand. I grew up in a rural pub, literally!! My bedroom was directly over the bar. To me at that time normal drinking was getting 6 or 7 pints into you as fast as possible, make sure to keep up with those in your round at all costs and never refuse a drink even if you have two full pints sitting in front of you already. It's still "normal". Gambling is no different but has moved a long way from the occassional bet on Cheltenham or the Grand National thanks to technology. It has always amused me how the Horse Racing industry feels that gambling is an essential part of the sport. People used to say the same about a drink and a smoke, that one couldn't be done without the other. Now GAA and Soccer is going the way of horse racing. I never an alcohol problem ( I do drink) but did have a gambling one (thanks DamotheDub for inspiring me here). Luckily I got myself out of it but not before a lot of damage was done. Technology was the medium through which my addiction was fed. I listen to young lads in bars talking about their bets and success and know that in a percentage of those cases there is a lot of denial going on. Nobody is suggesting banning either but anyone who denies there is a problem is not in touch with reality"
I would agree that the big betting companies need to take on a lot more responsibility when it comes to their online platforms. It is ridiculously easy to bet on literally almost anything that takes your fancy. I know they have some control mechanisms in place. You can suspend your own account for a period of time if you gamble a certain amount for example. But again it goes back to people needing to accept responsibility for themselves first and foremost.

The marketing involved is very clever too. It's this laddish culture where you're not really of the lads if you're not having a punt on some match or race or whatever. Young, impressionable lads wanting to fit in will likely start gambling to be seen to fit in. It's almost like a macho testosterone fueled thing. I'd be very interested in seeing the stats as to how many young women are addicted to gambling for example. I'd imagine the figure is significantly lower. Maybe not?

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9154 - 14/07/2017 10:31:37    2016414

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I would never open an online account. For starter when you go and try to get a mortgage or any load it is a big mark on your record.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 14/07/2017 12:29:39    2016482

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Dear God

Do you people actually go out of your way to be offended??

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 14/07/2017 13:00:50    2016493

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Replying To Wally:  "Dear God

Do you people actually go out of your way to be offended??"
sometimes yes , but in fairness there's been some good comment since original poster

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 14/07/2017 13:13:40    2016502

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In fairness advertising does effect people. Just look at the 50/60's and doctors on TV saying smoking was good for you. Probably killed millions.

The London tube are not going to do announcements anymore as 'Ladies and Gentlemen" so as not to offend the trans genders...now that is PC bull right there.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 14/07/2017 13:57:44    2016527

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Have to agree with the original post. Gambling has gotten out of control.
I'm living in Australia the past 7-8 years and its shocking how its become almost the norm that everybody now has a betting app on their phones. I have one myself so maybe I'm a hypocrite but I can honestly say I use it the odd time but ive worked with younger lads in the building industry and they actually have the racing channel on all day on their radios, punting their wages away all day at work before they've earned them.
The governments have a lot to answer for in this, its being advertised everywhere you look, during any sports game the odds are constantly popping up in the background and the commentators telling you if bet now on such and such you'll get this or that.
Being involved in Gaelic games we've all saw what gambling can do to our star players, its ruining a lot of families all over Ireland and really needs to be regulated and policed more vigorously.

duke_raul (Tyrone) - Posts: 993 - 14/07/2017 14:10:09    2016532

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Replying To yew_tree:  "In fairness advertising does effect people. Just look at the 50/60's and doctors on TV saying smoking was good for you. Probably killed millions.

The London tube are not going to do announcements anymore as 'Ladies and Gentlemen" so as not to offend the trans genders...now that is PC bull right there."
Amazing how an article about betting on hoganstand can lead to references to "the trans genders". Somethings gone mad alright and it's not political correctness.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12121 - 14/07/2017 15:57:43    2016576

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