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Replying To brud:  "I would be slow to make any change to the starting 15 but I do think Richie McCarthy is 100% tailor made for Johnny Glynn. He would suit Richie McCarthy and it would be a battle Richie would like. I often heard how the Limerick management in 07 regretted starting hickey in 07 over been an inexperienced 19 year old at the time but felt couldn't drop him for Razor at corner back as hickey was so good in the semi final on john Mullane. Its a tough decision for Kiely to make but I would feel that leaving the starting 15 as it is and bringing on our strong bench is the way to go for this final. I think our bench is far superior to Galways."
Sound man, brilliant, great idea. Don' t know what's wrong with Kiely that he hasn't seen what you see a long time ago .
Galway will love for that suggestion .

Come On Galway!.

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1361 - 08/08/2018 20:58:05    2131002

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Replying To PatOLogical:  "Sound man, brilliant, great idea. Don' t know what's wrong with Kiely that he hasn't seen what you see a long time ago .
Galway will love for that suggestion .

Come On Galway!."
What's Pa Carey doing these days.

Greenmen73 (Limerick) - Posts: 27 - 08/08/2018 21:11:29    2131008

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Replying To PatOLogical:  "Sound man, brilliant, great idea. Don' t know what's wrong with Kiely that he hasn't seen what you see a long time ago .
Galway will love for that suggestion .

Come On Galway!."
Well if you watched Limerick at all this year maybe you would noticed kiely put McCarthy on Conlon for the 2nd half against clare. Is there something wrong with an honest suggestion? I'm just saying he might do something similar with Glynn at some stage in the final. You must be a top class coach with you smug comment yourself.

brud (Limerick) - Posts: 943 - 08/08/2018 21:18:53    2131009

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Replying To PatOLogical:  "Sound man, brilliant, great idea. Don' t know what's wrong with Kiely that he hasn't seen what you see a long time ago .
Galway will love for that suggestion .

Come On Galway!."
I wouldn't be so smart, as McCarthy could be needed a lot earlier than you think.
With a lot of high ball coming in to the square I would worry about Quaid as well as he came for a ball the last day and it was not important
as the match was won and got k owhere near it,he is one player I worry about.

skule111 (Limerick) - Posts: 119 - 08/08/2018 21:50:48    2131029

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Replying To brud:  "Well if you watched Limerick at all this year maybe you would noticed kiely put McCarthy on Conlon for the 2nd half against clare. Is there something wrong with an honest suggestion? I'm just saying he might do something similar with Glynn at some stage in the final. You must be a top class coach with you smug comment yourself."
You really shouldnt respond. It's just easier in the long run.
The whole 'empty vessels make most noise' kind of thing going on with that poster.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1070 - 08/08/2018 21:51:27    2131030

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Replying To skillet:  "You really shouldnt respond. It's just easier in the long run.
The whole 'empty vessels make most noise' kind of thing going on with that poster."
Agreed. Thinking back through the year and even remember Richie McCarthy putting in a man of the match performance in Salthill this year in that great league victory. He could well be used in the final on Glynn.

brud (Limerick) - Posts: 943 - 08/08/2018 22:18:41    2131046

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Replying To brud:  "Agreed. Thinking back through the year and even remember Richie McCarthy putting in a man of the match performance in Salthill this year in that great league victory. He could well be used in the final on Glynn."
Exactly. If Kiely didn't think Richie mac had something to offer, he wouldn't be on the panel.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1070 - 08/08/2018 22:42:52    2131064

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Replying To skillet:  "Exactly. If Kiely didn't think Richie mac had something to offer, he wouldn't be on the panel."
Exactly, agree again and for the 10th time on here why do we continue to 2nd guess John Kilely's decisions by continuously resurrecting the same little 3 or 4 man thinly disguised campaign to get "my man in there" at any expense to the team. I'm OK if JK put his granny at full back , in goal or anywhere else. Who would have envisioned that we 3 months ago that we would have a panel in which 4 subs would come in near the end of the game and con tribute 2-6 , thus turning the game on its head. Let' s recognize that subs and panel are result of astute and careful planning.

Many good suggestions above re dealing with height differential. Not sure which I agree most with and will continue to watch and listen. Good dialogue.

So again, In Kiely and Co We Trust.

Come On Ye Boys in Green!

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1361 - 08/08/2018 23:37:49    2131082

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Replying To skillet:  "Exactly. If Kiely didn't think Richie mac had something to offer, he wouldn't be on the panel."
Would agree with that. I think we can all agree that JK knows more about managing a team than anyone of us.

Also would add if you disagree with someone don't attack the post or the person but give the reasons why you disagree on the point. Keep things upbeat and constructive otherwise things just become meaningless and toxic.

Luimneach Abú

Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 390 - 09/08/2018 08:24:50    2131107

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With a lot of the subs coming on and doing well against Cork, do ye think there will be any changes to the named substitutes for the final?

PNG1973 (Limerick) - Posts: 3 - 09/08/2018 09:24:40    2131118

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Replying To brud:  "No sweeper in the all-ireland final. Clare aren't in it at all. Maybe next year for them.
Limerick v Galway 15 on 15. It has the makings to be one of the greatest ever matches."
Brud , your anti Clare remarks are getting tiresome now will you give it a rest . This is a Limerick hurling page why don't you go over to the Clare forum if you are that obsessed with slagging them off , I am sure you will get your answer there .

WhipOnTheBall (Limerick) - Posts: 138 - 09/08/2018 10:15:58    2131135

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It's difficult to see a surprise being sprung by Limerick at this stage?

The team looks fairly settled and the subs who come on in midfield and the forwards are pretty settled too.

The only question is if anything needs to change in the backs. We have options. The only real question is who would go full back if we needed a change there.

I back Mr Kiely to get it right, he has done a mighty job in his two year stint to date, with older players leaving and him overseeing a transformation that regardless of what happens on August 19th, there will be a Limerick team to be proud of there next January and especially when the 2019 championship starts.

Is there anything that sets the blood flowing like Limerick hurling? Mother of God, such a massive part of all out lives, we love it to bits.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 09/08/2018 11:01:35    2131150

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Replying To PNG1973:  "With a lot of the subs coming on and doing well against Cork, do ye think there will be any changes to the named substitutes for the final?"
I think Downes might get a run as a sub late in the second half in on top of daithi Burke maybe late on if we need goals and hopefully we won't but that's about it . Leave the team and system the same and play our own game . Byrne's wouldn't be able for Glynn as he wasn't even able for the Carlow wing forward in the air up in Dr Cullen park so let's leave well enough a!one in my opinion . I know we need to worry about the opposition to a certain extent but not at the expense of making 2 or 3 positional switches because of one man i.e Glynn , what about canning he can win a game on his own , do we change everything to worry about him as well . Trust in the players and system that got us here I would say anyway and take our goal chances this time . We are creating goal chances which is great to see but we need to start taking them .

WhipOnTheBall (Limerick) - Posts: 138 - 09/08/2018 11:09:27    2131155

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Replying To PatOLogical:  "Exactly, agree again and for the 10th time on here why do we continue to 2nd guess John Kilely's decisions by continuously resurrecting the same little 3 or 4 man thinly disguised campaign to get "my man in there" at any expense to the team. I'm OK if JK put his granny at full back , in goal or anywhere else. Who would have envisioned that we 3 months ago that we would have a panel in which 4 subs would come in near the end of the game and con tribute 2-6 , thus turning the game on its head. Let' s recognize that subs and panel are result of astute and careful planning.

Many good suggestions above re dealing with height differential. Not sure which I agree most with and will continue to watch and listen. Good dialogue.

So again, In Kiely and Co We Trust.

Come On Ye Boys in Green!"
Pat do you really think a post on here is going to help to get someone on the team? All this agenda nonsense has more to do with your own paranoia and your ill founded bias. I remember you complimented a player for playing at full back against Galway when in fact it was McCarthy who played there and played a vital role in us winning that game. As for who thought we would have 4 subs to come on and get 2-6 Id say all of those who followed Limerick hurling from the 2013 minors to county championships as well as this years leagues. Id also add that K Downes C Ryan and Barry Murphy would also play their part if given a role so in fact we have 7 or 8 subs who could come on and make a difference.

welpastit (Limerick) - Posts: 740 - 09/08/2018 13:08:25    2131202

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Replying To welpastit:  "Pat do you really think a post on here is going to help to get someone on the team? All this agenda nonsense has more to do with your own paranoia and your ill founded bias. I remember you complimented a player for playing at full back against Galway when in fact it was McCarthy who played there and played a vital role in us winning that game. As for who thought we would have 4 subs to come on and get 2-6 Id say all of those who followed Limerick hurling from the 2013 minors to county championships as well as this years leagues. Id also add that K Downes C Ryan and Barry Murphy would also play their part if given a role so in fact we have 7 or 8 subs who could come on and make a difference."
Great post.. the voice of reason.. considering that our B team has beaten our A team sometimes maybe we have 15 who can come on. ... important thing is its all positive!! thanks for the illumination, though!

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1361 - 09/08/2018 16:20:36    2131265

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I for one would be far more worried about canning going in at 14 than glynn. Glynn is a big man but limited canning a big man but v talented and he along with whelan and mannion can do serious damage to us equally though we've seriously talented forwards i think our full back line is better as a unit than theirs for me the thoughts of putting byrnes in his current form man marking anyone doesnt make sense esp at 3 plus though bigger English isnt v good in the air. Its important our outfielders put enough pressure on Galways outfielders so they dont place the ball in glynns hand if they do i think our full forward line can do untold damage to their full back line. Then with 15 to go bring on the fresh legs to get us ov er the line.

someday (Limerick) - Posts: 1104 - 09/08/2018 18:45:40    2131306

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I for one would be far more worried about canning going in at 14 than glynn. Glynn is a big man but limited canning a big man but v talented and he along with whelan and mannion can do serious damage to us equally though we've seriously talented forwards i think our full back line is better as a unit than theirs for me the thoughts of putting byrnes in his current form man marking anyone doesnt make sense esp at 3 plus though bigger English isnt v good in the air. Its important our outfielders put enough pressure on Galways outfielders so they dont place the ball in glynns hand if they do i think our full forward line can do untold damage to their full back line. Then with 15 to go bring on the fresh legs to get us ov er the line.

someday (Limerick) - Posts: 1104 - 09/08/2018 19:38:51    2131322

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Rather than worrying about Glynn I see it as a advantage to Limerick with him full forward as Galway go with the long high ball to him instead of feeding low ball and angled ball into their other forwards. Last year when they got a ball in their half backs or midfield they looked for Canning in the half forward or low to Whelan inside or bring Conor Cooney or Mannion into play with passes but now instead of looking for the pass and throwing it around they take the easier option and land it on Glynn and if a team is 1 dimensional like that it's easier to defend. I could be wrong but maybe that's why their scoring has went down this year. Yeah Glynn is a handful but McInerney played him from the front after the goal last Sunday and kept him quiet.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 09/08/2018 20:15:10    2131326

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He is going to stick with what got them here. Worked so far. Mannion is the man I believe will need to be kept quiet. He gets them going .

Greenmen73 (Limerick) - Posts: 27 - 09/08/2018 22:01:33    2131356

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I suppose the biggest thing for me whatever first 15 we pick ( probably same as before) is that we get out of the traps fast and don't let Galway establish a big lead. We have brilliant subs but Galway certainly have a better bench currently than Cork. Six points isn't massive deficit in hurling however I hope we don't give our lads off the bench a mountain to climb. Hoping we tear into it from the off and our bench can drive us home. Now look it's not like the lads are planning to let Galway develop a big lead but they made it happen in the last 3 games in a row. Canning mentioned that Clare only lead them once throughout the 2 games. That seemed to be very big for them psychologically. It might have been a throwaway comment but if we can lead early then hopefully it would put them under serious pressure.

Mads (Limerick) - Posts: 366 - 09/08/2018 22:18:19    2131365

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