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This sight was in meltdown plenty of people absolutely thrilled to have a go. There was pages dedicated to it. Why is everyone so quiet on this occasion?

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 09/07/2017 14:36:36    2012963

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "This sight was in meltdown plenty of people absolutely thrilled to have a go. There was pages dedicated to it. Why is everyone so quiet on this occasion?"
Cause it's not diarmuid Connolly.

Not even a Dublin thing

If it was con ocallaghan that done it, sure it would be brought up but it wouldn't get half as much coverage ..

BUT.. That's why Connolly is a liability. He knows the attention that's on him as a great player thus leaving himself open to criticism time and again.

Whether people can argue about RTE/brolly/Spillane/Gavin/agendas/anti dub bias etc etc .. The ban was deserved by letter of the law and that's it.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 09/07/2017 15:47:17    2013038

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Linesman fault. Raised his hands first to Cody. It's not up to the linesman to physically make Cody stay within the managers rectangle.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 09/07/2017 15:53:45    2013050

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Replying To waynoI:  "Cause it's not diarmuid Connolly.

Not even a Dublin thing

If it was con ocallaghan that done it, sure it would be brought up but it wouldn't get half as much coverage ..

BUT.. That's why Connolly is a liability. He knows the attention that's on him as a great player thus leaving himself open to criticism time and again.

Whether people can argue about RTE/brolly/Spillane/Gavin/agendas/anti dub bias etc etc .. The ban was deserved by letter of the law and that's it."
I am not arguing that the ban was not justified? I think most dubs accept it was deserved but because of who was involved it was magnified and analysed to death let's wait and see does the same apply to Mr cody but as I said previously the hurling pundits tend to play things down and gloss over incidents and if the cccc don't follow up this will prove without doubt that there is selective analysis and bias when it comes analysing certain teams and individuals.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 09/07/2017 16:00:53    2013058

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Linesman fault. Raised his hands first to Cody. It's not up to the linesman to physically make Cody stay within the managers rectangle."
It doesn't matter who's fault it was you can't put your hand on a official we have been told this ad nauseum for the last 6 weeks. Minor interference with an official results in a 12 week ban. I look forward to the Sunday game and there balanced analysis on this..

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 09/07/2017 16:07:20    2013072

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Now we'll see just how consistent tbe GAA are. Brian Cody just put his hands on an official and pushed him back. It was virtually the same as the Diarmuid Connolly incident. If the GAA don't take action Dublin will have EVERY right to feel aggrieved."
It was nothing nor was the original DC - amazing how people cannot understandl the key difference between a touch (I need your attention) and a push/shove (aggressive hostile action) but thats the GAA rules for you, written by amateurs with poor command of English.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4898 - 09/07/2017 16:07:55    2013073

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Replying To arock:  "It was nothing nor was the original DC - amazing how people cannot understandl the key difference between a touch (I need your attention) and a push/shove (aggressive hostile action) but thats the GAA rules for you, written by amateurs with poor command of English."
Indeed the Cody non incident is trivial much like Connelly's BUT the CCCC took action against the Dublin player because of the letter of the law. Failure to act here will indeed leave the GAA wide open to all accusations, deserved or not.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 09/07/2017 16:12:12    2013078

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For the love of God, are we going to have a thread about the poor downtrodden Dubs and their misunderstood hero every time someone breaks wind near an official for the rest of our lives? I assume either Ulsterman is on the wind-up or has an issue with Kilkenny

Everyone needs to get over it and get on with their lives

petejoeduff (Donegal) - Posts: 329 - 09/07/2017 16:23:24    2013087

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "This sight was in meltdown plenty of people absolutely thrilled to have a go. There was pages dedicated to it. Why is everyone so quiet on this occasion?"
you might want to have a look at the amount of posters from your own county who make up 80% of threads involving all things Dublin before you blame the rest of the country.

Kilkenny have nowhere near as many defence attorneys as Dublin do on here.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 09/07/2017 16:44:45    2013109

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Replying To petejoeduff:  "For the love of God, are we going to have a thread about the poor downtrodden Dubs and their misunderstood hero every time someone breaks wind near an official for the rest of our lives? I assume either Ulsterman is on the wind-up or has an issue with Kilkenny

Everyone needs to get over it and get on with their lives"
Listen boyo...as I have said repeatedly most Dubs accept Connolly deserved his ban you will find there is alot of Dubs extremely frustrated with connolly and find him a liability i for one feel KilKenny is a far more important player to Dublin.
I think there is a legitimate question to be answered in relation to selective analysis that could result in bans for example the hurling pundits tend to be more positive than negative in all likely hood will gloss over this incident were as the football pundits would jump all over this issue both incidents were the same a hand was laid on the official there can be no arguments here it's there for all to see minor interference with an official is a 12 week ban. The CCCC / GAA are leaving themselves open to all sorts of accusations here if this is brushed under the carpet.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 09/07/2017 17:05:45    2013136

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "you might want to have a look at the amount of posters from your own county who make up 80% of threads involving all things Dublin before you blame the rest of the country.

Kilkenny have nowhere near as many defence attorneys as Dublin do on here."
I doubt that!

DannyMcA (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 09/07/2017 17:07:52    2013137

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Replying To petejoeduff:  "For the love of God, are we going to have a thread about the poor downtrodden Dubs and their misunderstood hero every time someone breaks wind near an official for the rest of our lives? I assume either Ulsterman is on the wind-up or has an issue with Kilkenny

Everyone needs to get over it and get on with their lives"
Yes we are and only right

Marse (Dublin) - Posts: 217 - 09/07/2017 17:10:59    2013145

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I'd like to invite all Dublin fans to hold hands and join me in a song

Ok, everyone, 'We shall overcome, we shall overcome....'

petejoeduff (Donegal) - Posts: 329 - 09/07/2017 17:31:55    2013171

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Replying To petejoeduff:  "For the love of God, are we going to have a thread about the poor downtrodden Dubs and their misunderstood hero every time someone breaks wind near an official for the rest of our lives? I assume either Ulsterman is on the wind-up or has an issue with Kilkenny

Everyone needs to get over it and get on with their lives"
Pity people weren't so keen to get on with it when it was DC that broke the rules!

DannyMcA (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 09/07/2017 17:42:26    2013177

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "This sight was in meltdown plenty of people absolutely thrilled to have a go. There was pages dedicated to it. Why is everyone so quiet on this occasion?"
It was you and your fellow Dubs who caused the meltdown with pages of your whining. Your at again now.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2478 - 09/07/2017 17:53:36    2013189

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "Listen boyo...as I have said repeatedly most Dubs accept Connolly deserved his ban you will find there is alot of Dubs extremely frustrated with connolly and find him a liability i for one feel KilKenny is a far more important player to Dublin.
I think there is a legitimate question to be answered in relation to selective analysis that could result in bans for example the hurling pundits tend to be more positive than negative in all likely hood will gloss over this incident were as the football pundits would jump all over this issue both incidents were the same a hand was laid on the official there can be no arguments here it's there for all to see minor interference with an official is a 12 week ban. The CCCC / GAA are leaving themselves open to all sorts of accusations here if this is brushed under the carpet."
Relax jack the cccc will meet tomorrow and no doubt you'll get your wish and Cody will get a 12 week ban .

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 09/07/2017 17:56:19    2013191

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Inconsistency is the only constant in the GAA. You don't get consistent refereeing, You don't get consistant analysis and you won't see Cody getting a ban. Sure even if he did what difference would it make.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 09/07/2017 18:04:07    2013200

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Replying To catch22:  "Inconsistency is the only constant in the GAA. You don't get consistent refereeing, You don't get consistant analysis and you won't see Cody getting a ban. Sure even if he did what difference would it make."
There certainly is a lack of consistency on more serious issues that these side line side shows. Gleeson blown for barging and Fennelly allowed a goal after doing the same. What are the two guys with the white coats 5 feet away doing ? Are they only there to wave a flag ? What a waste. Also we had a penalty called correctly against Waterford but Bennett was dragged down twice in the penalty area with no call. The CCCC would do well to spend some time penalizing the officials as well as players.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2665 - 09/07/2017 18:25:22    2013228

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "Listen boyo...as I have said repeatedly most Dubs accept Connolly deserved his ban you will find there is alot of Dubs extremely frustrated with connolly and find him a liability i for one feel KilKenny is a far more important player to Dublin.
I think there is a legitimate question to be answered in relation to selective analysis that could result in bans for example the hurling pundits tend to be more positive than negative in all likely hood will gloss over this incident were as the football pundits would jump all over this issue both incidents were the same a hand was laid on the official there can be no arguments here it's there for all to see minor interference with an official is a 12 week ban. The CCCC / GAA are leaving themselves open to all sorts of accusations here if this is brushed under the carpet."
Both incidents were not the same. For a start the linesman never laid a hand on Connolly, he was just trying to get on with his job. Yesterday the 4th official tried to push Cody away as he walked down the line. Cody no more deserves a ban than a player who shakes hands with a referee, unless you are asking for that as well? When Comerford got banned we were told it would never happen to a big county. When Connolly got banned we were told it's only because he is from a big county. The constant whinging by some is embarrassing.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 09/07/2017 18:57:28    2013263

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Replying To petejoeduff:  "For the love of God, are we going to have a thread about the poor downtrodden Dubs and their misunderstood hero every time someone breaks wind near an official for the rest of our lives? I assume either Ulsterman is on the wind-up or has an issue with Kilkenny

Everyone needs to get over it and get on with their lives"
No Pete I just believe in fairness and equality. I don't care if it's Dublin or not. I have made my criticisms of Dublin previously but for all the benefits they receive, they are still entitled to the same application, or non application, of the rules as others. Dublin and Connolly can't be treated differently, positively or negatively, nor can Brian Cody. Either we have a level playing field or we have anarchy.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 09/07/2017 19:25:20    2013298

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