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Right or wrong it makes no difference. The game is on in Semple stadium that's all that matters. Let's see if this Dublin team has the guts to have a real go here. And more interestingly has all the talk about Tipp being in disarray the complete rubbish I suspect it is. Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 05/07/2017 17:54:30 2011106 Link
Replying To tiobraidArann: "so notherncat when Dublin footballers are playing their all Ireland finals in Croke Park the opposing team should object to playing there and insist on a neutral venue is that what you are saying or if Dublin hurlers got to the all Ireland final the opposing team should insist on a neutral venue get a grip man!!" The main point already stated Ad nauseam is the Dublin footballers are not the hurlers they are two separate sports and entities, the only time they are not is when its applied to Dublin. The principals or more importantly the lack of them insist on Dublin playing in Croker and Tipp in Thurles. Now when Dublin hurlers object its tough, yet no one objects to playing the Dub footballers in Croker and when they do aka Kildare a massive wedge of cash is handed their way. So yeah principals, fairness, objectivity? look eleswhere. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 05/07/2017 19:30:22 2011139 Link
What no one has mentioned is that thurles will be more of an advantage to dub than tipp. There will be 40k there and 30 of them shouting for the dubs. PremierGold (Tipperary) - Posts: 121 - 05/07/2017 19:40:07 2011143 Link
Replying To arock: "The main point already stated Ad nauseam is the Dublin footballers are not the hurlers they are two separate sports and entities, the only time they are not is when its applied to Dublin. The principals or more importantly the lack of them insist on Dublin playing in Croker and Tipp in Thurles. Now when Dublin hurlers object its tough, yet no one objects to playing the Dub footballers in Croker and when they do aka Kildare a massive wedge of cash is handed their way. So yeah principals, fairness, objectivity? look eleswhere." And Dublin don't get a proportionate "wedge of cash" out of all the games they play there? Ah thanks for playing there on the rest of the country's behalf. kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 05/07/2017 20:08:58 2011164 Link
I've let this run for a few days without commenting a good few people getting excited about what I said dublin footballers have nothing to do with this topic but some dragged them into it parnell park is dublin home pitch not croke park , neutral venue means not playing at home ( nothing against tipp ) but this is their 3rd home fixture in the championship, this match could have been played in portlaoise ,tullamore , nowlan park, tipp have a massive advantage which is unfair in my opinion. northerncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 30 - 06/07/2017 06:36:30 2011282 Link
Replying To PremierGold: "What no one has mentioned is that thurles will be more of an advantage to dub than tipp. There will be 40k there and 30 of them shouting for the dubs." If shouting could win matches Wexford would have won hands down last Sunday. The GAA need not only be fair but to be perceived as being fair. Tipp's Eoin Kelly has admitted publicly that Thurles is an advantage to Tipp. He'd know. baire (Galway) - Posts: 1818 - 06/07/2017 09:32:13 2011364 Link
Dublin fans should take Sean Shanley to task over this. The Dublin County board is not a small county board if they really wanted this game at a neutral venue they have enough sway for it to happen. If Shanley is saying otherwise and it caught him by surprise when the fixtures were announced then he is not fit to be Dublin County chairman. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 06/07/2017 17:15:39 2011585 Link
Replying To baire: "If shouting could win matches Wexford would have won hands down last Sunday. The GAA need not only be fair but to be perceived as being fair. Tipp's Eoin Kelly has admitted publicly that Thurles is an advantage to Tipp. He'd know." Was there 3 times more wex than galway there?hardly PremierGold (Tipperary) - Posts: 121 - 06/07/2017 17:52:02 2011594 Link
Replying To Killarney.87: "Dublin fans should take Sean Shanley to task over this. The Dublin County board is not a small county board if they really wanted this game at a neutral venue they have enough sway for it to happen. If Shanley is saying otherwise and it caught him by surprise when the fixtures were announced then he is not fit to be Dublin County chairman." It caught everyone by surprise when the venue was announced. The GAA stated categorically before the draw was made, that the two matches would be played at neutral grounds. I know they (the GAA) are an amateur organisation, but it doesn't mean they have to behave in an amateurish way, Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2478 - 06/07/2017 18:10:56 2011605 Link
Replying To kildare73: "And Dublin don't get a proportionate "wedge of cash" out of all the games they play there? Ah thanks for playing there on the rest of the country's behalf." You should show more gratitude as we seem to be keeping the entire GAA on the road. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 06/07/2017 18:18:39 2011610 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "It caught everyone by surprise when the venue was announced. The GAA stated categorically before the draw was made, that the two matches would be played at neutral grounds. I know they (the GAA) are an amateur organisation, but it doesn't mean they have to behave in an amateurish way," Shanley for a self-proclaimed Hurling man always seems to come out on the wrong side of these 'hard luck' stories. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 06/07/2017 18:46:57 2011623 Link
Replying To Killarney.87: "Shanley for a self-proclaimed Hurling man always seems to come out on the wrong side of these 'hard luck' stories." Luck had nothing to do with this story. It is just sheer incompetency by the GAA. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2478 - 06/07/2017 19:08:11 2011628 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Luck had nothing to do with this story. It is just sheer incompetency by the GAA." I was being sarcastic. The words and the contradictory actions of the Dublin County Board are extremely disappointing. You know what they say, actions speak louder than words. This game shouldn't be in Thurles and it doesn't sit well with me. The GAA are mollycoddling us by giving us home advantage after stating the games would be in neutral venues. Kilkenny or Waterford county board wouldn't accept this, hence why I think the Dublin County Board are full of sht with their meek protest against this. Killarney.87 (Tipperary)* - Posts: 2513 - 06/07/2017 19:45:09 2011640 Link
Replying To Killarney.87: "I was being sarcastic. The words and the contradictory actions of the Dublin County Board are extremely disappointing. You know what they say, actions speak louder than words. This game shouldn't be in Thurles and it doesn't sit well with me. The GAA are mollycoddling us by giving us home advantage after stating the games would be in neutral venues. Kilkenny or Waterford county board wouldn't accept this, hence why I think the Dublin County Board are full of sht with their meek protest against this." Bottom line is that Tipp hurlers will put more bums on seats than Dublins hurlers, so keep them in the championship for as long as possible. Yes its wrong for the Dublin hurlers to have to go play Tipp in Thurles in a championship game that's meant to be in a neutral venue, but the GAA has loads of previous on this, Galway U21 hurlers played Tipp in Thurles in an U21 final 6 days after Tipp seniors won the AI. Whilst it would be correct to say that Dublin footballers also avail of such unfair advantages as much for the greed of the Leinster Council as their own doing, it still doesn't make it right for their hurlers to get shafted like this. bricktop (Down)* - Posts: 2503 - 07/07/2017 07:31:19 2011781 Link
Firstly as I said earlier it should be neutral but what's going on with the Dublin county board? Something like 17 hurling league games on Saturday evening...if what I read is to be believed. That's a farce. Players can't go to support their team mates even if they wanted too. Surely Croke Park can step in in situations like this where County Boards are showing no respect for one code... I can't get me head around it to be honest. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 07/07/2017 07:38:21 2011793 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "Firstly as I said earlier it should be neutral but what's going on with the Dublin county board? Something like 17 hurling league games on Saturday evening...if what I read is to be believed. That's a farce. Players can't go to support their team mates even if they wanted too. Surely Croke Park can step in in situations like this where County Boards are showing no respect for one code... I can't get me head around it to be honest." It's nothing new and happens regardless of code. I had a hurling league game scheduled for 3pm on the day of the Dublin v Mayo All-Ireland football final in 2013! We just changed throw in time to 11am as it was between two local Northside clubs. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 07/07/2017 07:58:44 2011800 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "It's nothing new and happens regardless of code. I had a hurling league game scheduled for 3pm on the day of the Dublin v Mayo All-Ireland football final in 2013! We just changed throw in time to 11am as it was between two local Northside clubs." I'm still baffled to be honest! I'm all for club games (more than most) but this is ridiculous tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 07/07/2017 11:53:18 2011896 Link
Replying To bricktop: "Bottom line is that Tipp hurlers will put more bums on seats than Dublins hurlers, so keep them in the championship for as long as possible. Yes its wrong for the Dublin hurlers to have to go play Tipp in Thurles in a championship game that's meant to be in a neutral venue, but the GAA has loads of previous on this, Galway U21 hurlers played Tipp in Thurles in an U21 final 6 days after Tipp seniors won the AI. Whilst it would be correct to say that Dublin footballers also avail of such unfair advantages as much for the greed of the Leinster Council as their own doing, it still doesn't make it right for their hurlers to get shafted like this." The under 21 final is different because it is in Thurles every year whether Tipp are in it or not and the final has been held there for the last 6 years with no Tipp in the final. My point is the GAA said the round 2 hurling qualifier games would be in neutral venues and broke that promise. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 07/07/2017 13:33:17 2011966 Link
I'm still baffled to be honest! I'm all for club games (more than most) but this is ridiculous tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts:1954 - 07/07/2017 11:53:18 2011896 A surprisingly large amount of players don't follow the Dublin senior teams believe it or not! MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 07/07/2017 13:53:32 2011976 Link
Replying To arock: "You should show more gratitude as we seem to be keeping the entire GAA on the road." If that's the level of debate I think I'll just leave it at that. kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 07/07/2017 17:37:27 2012079 Link

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