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Neutral venue for Dublin and Tipperary

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If the gaa as serious about promoting hurling in weaker counties why didn't they bring Dublin /Tipp game to breffni park as part of a double header with Tipp footballers?

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 04/07/2017 09:09:05    2010142

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "No it's not. It's unfair to Dublin. It's also the boring, predictable thing to do, put the hurling on in Thurles and everyone is happy.

Forget about having it in Portlaoise or Tullamore too. There was a brilliant opportunity to have this game in Cavan as a double header with the footballers just like Laois vs Tipp (Football) and Tipp vs Offaly (Hurling) in 2014. There was a great atmosphere that day and the footballers for a change got a Tipp crowd out supporting that they deserve.

There was a lot of nonsense talk about Tipp giving up home advantage last week. This is the time to do it. Keeper 7 and his Longford pals would have a short drive to see it in Bredfni Park. Cavan who finally have a hurling team again after a 6 year absence would get to host a top class knockout hurling championship game.

A load of Dubs live in Virginia and Cavan town, they like a game of football too so that would draw in a good Dublin crowd. With M3 to Kells its easy get to there.

Instead you have Tipp fans frustrated because they have to choose between their two teams. Dublin hurling fans are livid cos they are playing Tipp in Thurles. Cavan pubs and restaurants are disappointed cos less Tipp people will travel now.

All round a big fail by an unimaginative HQ who have no interest promoting hurling outside of where it is already strong."
why is it unfair?
shure don't Dublin footballers play the all Ireland final in croke park and the hurlers would too if they got there
so should the opposing teams look for a neutral venue?
what a load of tripe

tiobraidArann (Tipperary) - Posts: 362 - 04/07/2017 09:15:25    2010144

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The bottom line is that money is the priority for the GAA HQs, not fairness or the promotion of hurling. KK and Waterford will draw a big crowd to Thurles anyway. Tullamore would seem to be the logical neutral venue for Tipp and Dublin. Mulcahy did not do GC any favours on the Sunday Game.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1818 - 04/07/2017 09:35:19    2010157

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15 v 15 if we're good enough we will win. The best teams find a way no matter where it's played.

DannyMcA (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 04/07/2017 09:50:43    2010166

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Replying To waynoI:  "our footballers play most our games in croker so no dublin fan can complain about the unfairness of playing in semple stadium"
Most Dublins fans claim its not an advantage playing in Croke Park every game. So when ask to leave and play in someone elses home pitch they start crying is pathetic really

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 04/07/2017 09:52:26    2010169

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Replying To northerncat:  "So the hurling draw stated that the weekend hurling qualifiers would be neutral venues Dublin did not agree to play in thurles but the gaa said the game is being played there surely this is unfair on dublin thoughts please :"
Maybe Dublin hurlers are being punished for the Dublin footballers nearly always getting home advantage?

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2490 - 04/07/2017 09:54:26    2010170

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Should be neutral for sure but saying that this is how the rest of the country feel about the Dublin Footballers!!!!

letterkennyGuy (Donegal) - Posts: 153 - 04/07/2017 10:20:53    2010192

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Replying To northerncat: "So the hurling draw stated that the weekend hurling qualifiers would be neutral venues Dublin did not agree to play in thurles but the gaa said the game is being played there surely this is unfair on dublin thoughts please :"
our footballers play most our games in croker so no dublin fan can complain about the unfairness of playing in semple stadium
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts:12159 - 04/07/2017 07:26:45

Dublin hurlers would rather play in Parnell Park than Croke Park, we have a far better record in PP.. And when they are lumped in before the footballers in Croke Park in the league only a handful of "Dulblin Football Fans" bother to come in to watch them anyway..

MURPHB33 (Dublin) - Posts: 166 - 04/07/2017 10:43:14    2010222

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Replying To tiobraidArann:  "why is it unfair?
shure don't Dublin footballers play the all Ireland final in croke park and the hurlers would too if they got there
so should the opposing teams look for a neutral venue?
what a load of tripe"
Dublin Hurling is not Dublin Football,look at Dublin Hurling fixtures both league & championship ,they play almost all games away ,especially championship & shouldn't be compared to the football side of it ,so the only person talking TRIPE here is you ,go check your facts before you run your mouth ,Tipperary are no better than Dublin footballers now 3 home championship games in a row is a bloody joke ,I hope they get a good hammering soon ,

emerald79 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 60 - 04/07/2017 10:47:42    2010227

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Replying To Damothedub:  "Good I hope you never get to do jury duty with thinking like that , very small mind and ignorant to boot , Dublin has a core of hurling fans that have very little to do with the footballers they are been punished they are as loyal as any hurling fans out there , the are Dublin football fans that probably won't even know there is s game on , and you ye poor sod thinking this is getting back at them .just to add to your ignorance you are aware croke park is not dublins home ground it's actuall Parnell park"
When the Dublin footballers start playing in Parnell Park you can call it your home. Dublin footballers play everything in Croke Park, that is your home. It's quite simple really. If the Dublin county board were so keen on neutral venues, why didn't they insist on the Westmeath match being in Tullamore or Portlaoise? To day Croke Park isn't Dublin's home these days is plainly disingenuous and nobody believes otherwise. The whining about Thurles is a bit pathetic.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 04/07/2017 10:54:45    2010232

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Replying To tiobraid:  "They will get far more tipp fans in thurles than anywhere else so in their mind it's a massive win!
Would be crazy to have it in Cavan tho in my opinion"
They'll get a massive crowd in Thurles anyway from Waterford and Kilkenny. They are spoiling us.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 04/07/2017 11:00:20    2010239

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Replying To tiobraidArann:  "why is it unfair?
shure don't Dublin footballers play the all Ireland final in croke park and the hurlers would too if they got there
so should the opposing teams look for a neutral venue?
what a load of tripe"
It's unfair cos the GAA said the games would be at neutral venues before hand. 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 04/07/2017 11:02:21    2010241

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Sorry just some facts, understand that these are items not much appreciated here. They tend to dampen down a good b***hing session.

The All-Ireland series Q-Finals on are played in Croker so no special advantage given to the Dubs.

In Leinster it is the other counties who VOTED TO KEEP US iN CROKER!!! Advantage Dublin but not by our choice!!

As to the League, Dublin proposed the Spring series to raise the profile of the League and the revenues and it has been a huge success for all. Now we can move back to Parnell, not an issue, it is our home ground. But answer me a question first. Even though it is League only where do the Kerry, Mayo, Tyrone teams etc. want o play us? Parnell or Croker? I will give you a hint...........the answer is not Parnell!

But don't let this get in you way

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 04/07/2017 11:06:49    2010246

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It's a total stitch up. Thurles is being given way more games than it ought to. It's had all the Munster championship games this year. It's being pushed as some 'mythical' shrine to hurling. The pitch is good...facilities are poor and the town is ...well...a small Midlands town. There's stadiums up and down the country crying out for a share of games.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 04/07/2017 11:09:05    2010248

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Replying To galwaydublin:  "If any other county yes, but the dubs footballers regularly enjoy home advantage, so not one bit sorry for them. Cork could have home advantage for the quarters. They have to play somewhere."
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Marse (Dublin) - Posts: 217 - 04/07/2017 11:15:54    2010251

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Replying To kildare73:  "When the Dublin footballers start playing in Parnell Park you can call it your home. Dublin footballers play everything in Croke Park, that is your home. It's quite simple really. If the Dublin county board were so keen on neutral venues, why didn't they insist on the Westmeath match being in Tullamore or Portlaoise? To day Croke Park isn't Dublin's home these days is plainly disingenuous and nobody believes otherwise. The whining about Thurles is a bit pathetic."
This thread is about the hurkers. Nothing to do with the footballers no matter how much it suits your agenda. They travel up and down the country like all other teams in league and championship.

DannyMcA (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 04/07/2017 11:17:19    2010254

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Replying To galwaydublin:  "If any other county yes, but the dubs footballers regularly enjoy home advantage, so not one bit sorry for them. Cork could have home advantage for the quarters. They have to play somewhere."
Two wrongs don't make a right so you're way off on your judgement here.

For what its worth, while acknowledging the advantage given to Tipperary in this case, I think Thurles is the most sensible venue for the game given the proximity of three of the teams and the fact that Thurles was the logical choice of venue for the Kilkenny v Waterford game anyway. That doesn't mean the topic can't be discussed on its individual merits without referring to a perceived unfairness in a different code altogether. The fact that this game largely clashes with a football game involving one of the teams shows how disparate the two codes and their governing bodies are.

Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 04/07/2017 11:21:40    2010258

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Lets not dress Thurles up, it is a fantastic pitch, and an average stadium.
I don't know why Tipp and Dublin cant play in Portlaoise?

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 04/07/2017 11:23:16    2010259

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I don't know why people keep bringing the Dublin footballers home advantage into this debate.
The fact of the matter is the game was supposed to be at a neutral venue and it's not. Dublin have every right to feel annoyed at this. If Tipp were to play either of the other 2 teams in the qualifiers, they would feel just as aggrieved.
Another game that could be played down in Limerick or Breffni Park as a double header with the footballers

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 04/07/2017 11:23:34    2010260

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The funny thing is apparently pairc ui chaoimh is now at risk of not being finished in time for the quarter finals.

Therefore if Tipp win against Dublin they will probably play the quarter finals in thurles giving Tipperary 3 home matches in a row!

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1350 - 04/07/2017 11:26:03    2010264

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