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Replying To tiobraid: "If Meath lose will McEntee walk or be pushed? He can only play with what he has but if they lose this it'll be another step backwards" He will do neither, this is more than a one year task and everyone is quite accepting of that fact, there is plenty of hard work going on to improve standards but it won't happen overnight, small steps lead to big leaps and so forth.
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Replying To tiobraid: "If Meath lose will McEntee walk or be pushed? He can only play with what he has but if they lose this it'll be another step backwards" Neither, Meath at low point when he took over and all concerned realised it will take time to improve
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Replying To Richieq: "He will do neither, this is more than a one year task and everyone is quite accepting of that fact, there is plenty of hard work going on to improve standards but it won't happen overnight, small steps lead to big leaps and so forth." Well said.
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What sort of style does McEntee have Meath playing? I watched the game against Kildare on Sky and he seemed to be deploying a sweeper but not with much success. Does he favour a more traditional game with direct ball into the forwards? Kildare caused Meath a lot of problems by delivering the ball early and fast to the full forward line but I doubt if Donegal will play this way. It's going to be an interesting match and hopefully whoever wins it can kickstart their season.
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Out of curiosity who would you and Pan of dropped in place of Gillespie assuming everyone else was fit and available for selection?I thought Rory got our starting teams bang on last year and was always happy with the team he selected. He let himself down with his use of the bench and tactically in big games and although his use of the bench has improved this year the tactics haven't. I completely understand and agree with supporters not being happy with Rory tactictally but to say he should of played younger players last year who don't look physically up to it this year is absolute nonsense.
Mobot (Donegal) - Posts:248 - 06/07/2017 08:25:35
For me Kieran Gillespie and Martin McElhinney are definite starters in this current squad, most likely at the expense of Jamie Brennan and Eoin McHugh. I would also consider starting Karl Lacey at Right Corner Back in place of Caolan Ward, as Lacey is still razor sharp in the tackle and corner back could still suit him.
I would place Michael Murphy at Left Corner Forward, and give Martin McElhinney and Hugh McFadden defensive midfield roles providing physical cover to our half back line against runners coming through the middle. Place Jason McGee in a more advanced midfield role in front of McElhinney/McFadden, and utilise his excellent kicking ability a bit more.
LCF: Michael Murphy RCF: Patrick McBrearty
LWF: Ryan McHugh RWF: Ciaran Thompson
Attacking Midfielder: Jason McGee
Defensive Midfield 1: Martin McElhinney. Defensive Midfield 2: Hugh McFadden
Sweeper or Runner to link the play: Martin O'Reilly/Caolan Ward/Mark McHugh
LWB: Frank McGlynn CHB: Kieran Gillespie RWB: Eoghan Ban Gallagher
LCB: Paddy McGrath FB: Neil McGee RCB: Karl Lacey
GK: Mark Anthony McGinley
I think the above team would address some of Donegal's current issues, in shoring up the defence while keeping out most capable scoring players in advanced positions.
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Replying To Commodore: "Out of curiosity who would you and Pan of dropped in place of Gillespie assuming everyone else was fit and available for selection?I thought Rory got our starting teams bang on last year and was always happy with the team he selected. He let himself down with his use of the bench and tactically in big games and although his use of the bench has improved this year the tactics haven't. I completely understand and agree with supporters not being happy with Rory tactictally but to say he should of played younger players last year who don't look physically up to it this year is absolute nonsense.
Mobot (Donegal) - Posts:248 - 06/07/2017 08:25:35
For me Kieran Gillespie and Martin McElhinney are definite starters in this current squad, most likely at the expense of Jamie Brennan and Eoin McHugh. I would also consider starting Karl Lacey at Right Corner Back in place of Caolan Ward, as Lacey is still razor sharp in the tackle and corner back could still suit him.
I would place Michael Murphy at Left Corner Forward, and give Martin McElhinney and Hugh McFadden defensive midfield roles providing physical cover to our half back line against runners coming through the middle. Place Jason McGee in a more advanced midfield role in front of McElhinney/McFadden, and utilise his excellent kicking ability a bit more.
LCF: Michael Murphy RCF: Patrick McBrearty
LWF: Ryan McHugh RWF: Ciaran Thompson
Attacking Midfielder: Jason McGee
Defensive Midfield 1: Martin McElhinney. Defensive Midfield 2: Hugh McFadden
Sweeper or Runner to link the play: Martin O'Reilly/Caolan Ward/Mark McHugh
LWB: Frank McGlynn CHB: Kieran Gillespie RWB: Eoghan Ban Gallagher
LCB: Paddy McGrath FB: Neil McGee RCB: Karl Lacey
GK: Mark Anthony McGinley
I think the above team would address some of Donegal's current issues, in shoring up the defence while keeping out most capable scoring players in advanced positions." Not having a pop. But those positional names sound more like out of the NFL than gaa football.
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Replying To Commodore: "Out of curiosity who would you and Pan of dropped in place of Gillespie assuming everyone else was fit and available for selection?I thought Rory got our starting teams bang on last year and was always happy with the team he selected. He let himself down with his use of the bench and tactically in big games and although his use of the bench has improved this year the tactics haven't. I completely understand and agree with supporters not being happy with Rory tactictally but to say he should of played younger players last year who don't look physically up to it this year is absolute nonsense.
Mobot (Donegal) - Posts:248 - 06/07/2017 08:25:35
For me Kieran Gillespie and Martin McElhinney are definite starters in this current squad, most likely at the expense of Jamie Brennan and Eoin McHugh. I would also consider starting Karl Lacey at Right Corner Back in place of Caolan Ward, as Lacey is still razor sharp in the tackle and corner back could still suit him.
I would place Michael Murphy at Left Corner Forward, and give Martin McElhinney and Hugh McFadden defensive midfield roles providing physical cover to our half back line against runners coming through the middle. Place Jason McGee in a more advanced midfield role in front of McElhinney/McFadden, and utilise his excellent kicking ability a bit more.
LCF: Michael Murphy RCF: Patrick McBrearty
LWF: Ryan McHugh RWF: Ciaran Thompson
Attacking Midfielder: Jason McGee
Defensive Midfield 1: Martin McElhinney. Defensive Midfield 2: Hugh McFadden
Sweeper or Runner to link the play: Martin O'Reilly/Caolan Ward/Mark McHugh
LWB: Frank McGlynn CHB: Kieran Gillespie RWB: Eoghan Ban Gallagher
LCB: Paddy McGrath FB: Neil McGee RCB: Karl Lacey
GK: Mark Anthony McGinley
I think the above team would address some of Donegal's current issues, in shoring up the defence while keeping out most capable scoring players in advanced positions." Have you emailed the county board about this? Sounds like you could be the man to bring Sam back to the hills.
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Replying To Commodore: "Out of curiosity who would you and Pan of dropped in place of Gillespie assuming everyone else was fit and available for selection?I thought Rory got our starting teams bang on last year and was always happy with the team he selected. He let himself down with his use of the bench and tactically in big games and although his use of the bench has improved this year the tactics haven't. I completely understand and agree with supporters not being happy with Rory tactictally but to say he should of played younger players last year who don't look physically up to it this year is absolute nonsense.
Mobot (Donegal) - Posts:248 - 06/07/2017 08:25:35
For me Kieran Gillespie and Martin McElhinney are definite starters in this current squad, most likely at the expense of Jamie Brennan and Eoin McHugh. I would also consider starting Karl Lacey at Right Corner Back in place of Caolan Ward, as Lacey is still razor sharp in the tackle and corner back could still suit him.
I would place Michael Murphy at Left Corner Forward, and give Martin McElhinney and Hugh McFadden defensive midfield roles providing physical cover to our half back line against runners coming through the middle. Place Jason McGee in a more advanced midfield role in front of McElhinney/McFadden, and utilise his excellent kicking ability a bit more.
LCF: Michael Murphy RCF: Patrick McBrearty
LWF: Ryan McHugh RWF: Ciaran Thompson
Attacking Midfielder: Jason McGee
Defensive Midfield 1: Martin McElhinney. Defensive Midfield 2: Hugh McFadden
Sweeper or Runner to link the play: Martin O'Reilly/Caolan Ward/Mark McHugh
LWB: Frank McGlynn CHB: Kieran Gillespie RWB: Eoghan Ban Gallagher
LCB: Paddy McGrath FB: Neil McGee RCB: Karl Lacey
GK: Mark Anthony McGinley
I think the above team would address some of Donegal's current issues, in shoring up the defence while keeping out most capable scoring players in advanced positions." Interesting thoughts but a couple of points. Firstly, I would only play Hugh McFadden at full forward with the strict instruction to stay in there at all times. In my opinion it has been shown time and time again that he just lacks pace for out the field and not for the lack of effort just spends the game chasing shadows. At least in at full forward he can keep defenders guessing and give an extra option rather than have Paddy trying to win ball against 2 or 3 defenders with little support. In an ideal world I would have MM in there with a corner forward flanked each side to take away some of the pressure but that is just not going to happen with RG at the helm. Michael had a good league at midfield but it has not really worked in the championship. I can imagine the management in the likes of Mayo, Tyrone, Dublin and Kerry are scratching their heads in bewilderment with how Donegal are using Michael. In my opinion all game plans should be planned around having the best full forward playing in there. Yes he gets suffocated but that is because of the slow build up play. Can you imagine Michael in the Kerry or Dublin full forward lines? Be a scary prospect esp in Kerry with Geaney and O'Donoghue stretching any full back lines to free him up. Good point on Jason McGee. Jason is an excellent of foot passer of either foot but this has been coached out of him at the moment I feel. We even seen evidence of this with the U-21's but he is a young lad who will be some player in a couple of years especially if he gets the right management structure with Donegal. That is a big 'IF' given the Donegal county board.
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Replying To Commodore: "Out of curiosity who would you and Pan of dropped in place of Gillespie assuming everyone else was fit and available for selection?I thought Rory got our starting teams bang on last year and was always happy with the team he selected. He let himself down with his use of the bench and tactically in big games and although his use of the bench has improved this year the tactics haven't. I completely understand and agree with supporters not being happy with Rory tactictally but to say he should of played younger players last year who don't look physically up to it this year is absolute nonsense.
Mobot (Donegal) - Posts:248 - 06/07/2017 08:25:35
For me Kieran Gillespie and Martin McElhinney are definite starters in this current squad, most likely at the expense of Jamie Brennan and Eoin McHugh. I would also consider starting Karl Lacey at Right Corner Back in place of Caolan Ward, as Lacey is still razor sharp in the tackle and corner back could still suit him.
I would place Michael Murphy at Left Corner Forward, and give Martin McElhinney and Hugh McFadden defensive midfield roles providing physical cover to our half back line against runners coming through the middle. Place Jason McGee in a more advanced midfield role in front of McElhinney/McFadden, and utilise his excellent kicking ability a bit more.
LCF: Michael Murphy RCF: Patrick McBrearty
LWF: Ryan McHugh RWF: Ciaran Thompson
Attacking Midfielder: Jason McGee
Defensive Midfield 1: Martin McElhinney. Defensive Midfield 2: Hugh McFadden
Sweeper or Runner to link the play: Martin O'Reilly/Caolan Ward/Mark McHugh
LWB: Frank McGlynn CHB: Kieran Gillespie RWB: Eoghan Ban Gallagher
LCB: Paddy McGrath FB: Neil McGee RCB: Karl Lacey
GK: Mark Anthony McGinley
I think the above team would address some of Donegal's current issues, in shoring up the defence while keeping out most capable scoring players in advanced positions." I would probably start Karl Lacey myself. Possibly in the full back line also. Does anybody remember what a fantastic foot passer Karl was? The ball he played into MM in the 2012 AI final was as good as you will see. This type of skill from Karl is now a distant memory since RG took over despite the injuries etc.
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 07/07/2017 21:32:44
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Replying To royaldunne: " Replying To Commodore: "Out of curiosity who would you and Pan of dropped in place of Gillespie assuming everyone else was fit and available for selection?I thought Rory got our starting teams bang on last year and was always happy with the team he selected. He let himself down with his use of the bench and tactically in big games and although his use of the bench has improved this year the tactics haven't. I completely understand and agree with supporters not being happy with Rory tactictally but to say he should of played younger players last year who don't look physically up to it this year is absolute nonsense.
Mobot (Donegal) - Posts:248 - 06/07/2017 08:25:35
For me Kieran Gillespie and Martin McElhinney are definite starters in this current squad, most likely at the expense of Jamie Brennan and Eoin McHugh. I would also consider starting Karl Lacey at Right Corner Back in place of Caolan Ward, as Lacey is still razor sharp in the tackle and corner back could still suit him.
I would place Michael Murphy at Left Corner Forward, and give Martin McElhinney and Hugh McFadden defensive midfield roles providing physical cover to our half back line against runners coming through the middle. Place Jason McGee in a more advanced midfield role in front of McElhinney/McFadden, and utilise his excellent kicking ability a bit more.
LCF: Michael Murphy RCF: Patrick McBrearty
LWF: Ryan McHugh RWF: Ciaran Thompson
Attacking Midfielder: Jason McGee
Defensive Midfield 1: Martin McElhinney. Defensive Midfield 2: Hugh McFadden
Sweeper or Runner to link the play: Martin O'Reilly/Caolan Ward/Mark McHugh
LWB: Frank McGlynn CHB: Kieran Gillespie RWB: Eoghan Ban Gallagher
LCB: Paddy McGrath FB: Neil McGee RCB: Karl Lacey
GK: Mark Anthony McGinley
I think the above team would address some of Donegal's current issues, in shoring up the defence while keeping out most capable scoring players in advanced positions." Not having a pop. But those positional names sound more like out of the NFL than gaa football."
Sweeper is an often used term.
Attacking midfielder and a sitting midfielder would be common enough terms. You can't have been in too many actual dressing rooms down the years
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Not having a pop. But those positional names sound more like out of the NFL than gaa football.
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In fairness traditional positions don't represent how teams really line out.
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Replying To Donegal_abroad: " Replying To royaldunne: "[quote=Commodore: "Out of curiosity who would you and Pan of dropped in place of Gillespie assuming everyone else was fit and available for selection?I thought Rory got our starting teams bang on last year and was always happy with the team he selected. He let himself down with his use of the bench and tactically in big games and although his use of the bench has improved this year the tactics haven't. I completely understand and agree with supporters not being happy with Rory tactictally but to say he should of played younger players last year who don't look physically up to it this year is absolute nonsense.
Mobot (Donegal) - Posts:248 - 06/07/2017 08:25:35
For me Kieran Gillespie and Martin McElhinney are definite starters in this current squad, most likely at the expense of Jamie Brennan and Eoin McHugh. I would also consider starting Karl Lacey at Right Corner Back in place of Caolan Ward, as Lacey is still razor sharp in the tackle and corner back could still suit him.
I would place Michael Murphy at Left Corner Forward, and give Martin McElhinney and Hugh McFadden defensive midfield roles providing physical cover to our half back line against runners coming through the middle. Place Jason McGee in a more advanced midfield role in front of McElhinney/McFadden, and utilise his excellent kicking ability a bit more.
LCF: Michael Murphy RCF: Patrick McBrearty
LWF: Ryan McHugh RWF: Ciaran Thompson
Attacking Midfielder: Jason McGee
Defensive Midfield 1: Martin McElhinney. Defensive Midfield 2: Hugh McFadden
Sweeper or Runner to link the play: Martin O'Reilly/Caolan Ward/Mark McHugh
LWB: Frank McGlynn CHB: Kieran Gillespie RWB: Eoghan Ban Gallagher
LCB: Paddy McGrath FB: Neil McGee RCB: Karl Lacey
GK: Mark Anthony McGinley
I think the above team would address some of Donegal's current issues, in shoring up the defence while keeping out most capable scoring players in advanced positions." Not having a pop. But those positional names sound more like out of the NFL than gaa football."
Sweeper is an often used term.
Attacking midfielder and a sitting midfielder would be common enough terms. You can't have been in too many actual dressing rooms down the years"]Been in plenty actually, both as a player and coach. (uoto and including intermediate county final as coach) and attacking holding defensive midfielder? Never used them and I would say martin McHugh never heard them during his playing days . I accept it was different then. But football existed in a different form prior to 2010.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 07/07/2017 22:21:19
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Replying To TheFlaker: " Replying To Commodore: "Out of curiosity who would you and Pan of dropped in place of Gillespie assuming everyone else was fit and available for selection?I thought Rory got our starting teams bang on last year and was always happy with the team he selected. He let himself down with his use of the bench and tactically in big games and although his use of the bench has improved this year the tactics haven't. I completely understand and agree with supporters not being happy with Rory tactictally but to say he should of played younger players last year who don't look physically up to it this year is absolute nonsense.
Mobot (Donegal) - Posts:248 - 06/07/2017 08:25:35
For me Kieran Gillespie and Martin McElhinney are definite starters in this current squad, most likely at the expense of Jamie Brennan and Eoin McHugh. I would also consider starting Karl Lacey at Right Corner Back in place of Caolan Ward, as Lacey is still razor sharp in the tackle and corner back could still suit him.
I would place Michael Murphy at Left Corner Forward, and give Martin McElhinney and Hugh McFadden defensive midfield roles providing physical cover to our half back line against runners coming through the middle. Place Jason McGee in a more advanced midfield role in front of McElhinney/McFadden, and utilise his excellent kicking ability a bit more.
LCF: Michael Murphy RCF: Patrick McBrearty
LWF: Ryan McHugh RWF: Ciaran Thompson
Attacking Midfielder: Jason McGee
Defensive Midfield 1: Martin McElhinney. Defensive Midfield 2: Hugh McFadden
Sweeper or Runner to link the play: Martin O'Reilly/Caolan Ward/Mark McHugh
LWB: Frank McGlynn CHB: Kieran Gillespie RWB: Eoghan Ban Gallagher
LCB: Paddy McGrath FB: Neil McGee RCB: Karl Lacey
GK: Mark Anthony McGinley
I think the above team would address some of Donegal's current issues, in shoring up the defence while keeping out most capable scoring players in advanced positions." Have you emailed the county board about this? Sounds like you could be the man to bring Sam back to the hills."
EDH (Galway) - Posts: 367 - 07/07/2017 22:51:19
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Replying To EDH: " Replying To TheFlaker: "[quote=Commodore: "Out of curiosity who would you and Pan of dropped in place of Gillespie assuming everyone else was fit and available for selection?I thought Rory got our starting teams bang on last year and was always happy with the team he selected. He let himself down with his use of the bench and tactically in big games and although his use of the bench has improved this year the tactics haven't. I completely understand and agree with supporters not being happy with Rory tactictally but to say he should of played younger players last year who don't look physically up to it this year is absolute nonsense.
Mobot (Donegal) - Posts:248 - 06/07/2017 08:25:35
For me Kieran Gillespie and Martin McElhinney are definite starters in this current squad, most likely at the expense of Jamie Brennan and Eoin McHugh. I would also consider starting Karl Lacey at Right Corner Back in place of Caolan Ward, as Lacey is still razor sharp in the tackle and corner back could still suit him.
I would place Michael Murphy at Left Corner Forward, and give Martin McElhinney and Hugh McFadden defensive midfield roles providing physical cover to our half back line against runners coming through the middle. Place Jason McGee in a more advanced midfield role in front of McElhinney/McFadden, and utilise his excellent kicking ability a bit more.
LCF: Michael Murphy RCF: Patrick McBrearty
LWF: Ryan McHugh RWF: Ciaran Thompson
Attacking Midfielder: Jason McGee
Defensive Midfield 1: Martin McElhinney. Defensive Midfield 2: Hugh McFadden
Sweeper or Runner to link the play: Martin O'Reilly/Caolan Ward/Mark McHugh
LWB: Frank McGlynn CHB: Kieran Gillespie RWB: Eoghan Ban Gallagher
LCB: Paddy McGrath FB: Neil McGee RCB: Karl Lacey
GK: Mark Anthony McGinley
I think the above team would address some of Donegal's current issues, in shoring up the defence while keeping out most capable scoring players in advanced positions." Have you emailed the county board about this? Sounds like you could be the man to bring Sam back to the hills."
Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 07/07/2017 23:58:19
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I can't see ye winning, but I hope ye do.
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Nervy but we are through.
A better performance with Ryan McHugh the difference in the last 15 mins.
Hopefully we can kick on from here.
MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 08/07/2017 19:40:39
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petejoeduff (Donegal) - Posts: 329 - 08/07/2017 20:03:32
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Well done to Donegal, great set of travelling fans, the man with the bagpipes was a bit of craic. It was a good game of football, much better than last week's dross from both teams, it had a real championship atmosphere and played in beautiful weather. Donegal's score to win it was outstanding, and fairplay to all the their fans who made the long trip, all the best going forward.
Hard luck to our lads, never really found any sort of consistency over the summer but it's early days yet for this management team, they need to be given a fair crack at it.
Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 08/07/2017 20:23:27
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