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Sure didn't Meath beat us by 10pts the last 2 occasions we've met ...oh wait ... Having a sneaking feeling for Meath in this though given the way Donegal have looked in last 2 games. Undoubtedly a better side than Meath but they just don't seem to be at the races lately and this is Meath's All Ireland final JJ1 (Kildare) - Posts: 547 - 04/07/2017 19:24:03 2010658 Link 1 |
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Ai hope Donegal wins but it won't suprise me if Meath beat them SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 04/07/2017 19:48:32 2010668 Link 0 |
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I really can't see us winning this game. The players look bewildered at present and it's clear they have no faith in Gallagher's tactics. The whole county can see that his tactics are non-existent and everyone that knows anything about GAA in Donegal is saying it. This is bound to seep into the players too and they look completely bereft of any new ideas during the Tyrone game and even worse in the Longford game. Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 04/07/2017 19:57:19 2010672 Link 1 |
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two teams playing poorly for sure rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1478 - 04/07/2017 20:04:33 2010677 Link 0 |
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IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 04/07/2017 20:57:24 2010695 Link 4 |
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We might be better off losing this one, get rid of RG now instead of limping on with this shambles and getting a trimming in Croker, I'm kinda torn I always want Donegal to do well but I want RG out, time will tell I suppose, don't think Meath are much good though at the minute so likely our boys will fall over the line by 3 or 4 points. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2756 - 04/07/2017 22:14:38 2010747 Link 0 |
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I have seldom seen such doom and gloom.If the management and players are as big a pessimists as some of the posters on here they definitely have no hope.I hope they don't read all the dung and bile that's being spewed out here. gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1059 - 04/07/2017 22:25:32 2010754 Link 0 |
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So what don't call it as you see ?
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 04/07/2017 23:41:23 2010794 Link 0 |
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What dung and bile is that u refer to gunman? I think most people are right and the evidence suggests that both teams are not in good form. Donegal are a pale shadow of the team in the league and we are now only seeing the results of the badly managed mass retirements from the squad. Donegal have reverted to the one dimensional play that has being a characteristic of this management team the results of which have led to 2 lost Ulster finals and a couple of trimmings in Croker for good measure. A player like Hugh McFadden who has his critics and is limited but offers some variation by playing in at full forward has been discarded in favour of reverting to type. Anybody who follows Donegal football can tell u how depressing it is and after 3 years there has been little or no evolution from the management. They got plenty of praise for introducing all the young players earlier in the year but some of these guys were wrongly ignored over the past year or 2 by the same manager. I don't feel people are talking bile or dung they are just saying it as it is. What is bile and dung is this one dimensional system the players are being asked to play and I am sure in the background they are saying the same things supporters are.
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 05/07/2017 00:21:36 2010802 Link 1 |
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The dung and bile as you call it was what was passed for Gaelic football last Saturday evening in Ballybofey. we'd be better off packing it in if that's the kind of rubbish we are going to keep playing.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2756 - 05/07/2017 00:22:15 2010804 Link 0 |
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I can see where you are coming from, Shades of 2009 when you crashed out of Ulster on the first hurdle against Antrim, Wins against Carlow, Clare and Galway got you back on track before a 14 point hiding from Cork in QF. Hard to figure out why expectations have nose dived .. more than one reason Id say. Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 507 - 05/07/2017 00:31:55 2010807 Link 0 |
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Agree with above. Time to chill out and project a bit of confidence. We have the players to win on Saturday but need to start with experience and strength. If fully fit that'd mean Gillespie, Lacey, M Mchugh and Mcelhinney for E Mchugh, E B Gallagher, C Thompson and M Langan. R Mchugh to HF. More solid looking than so far this year and capable of opening up a lead where Thompson, McHugh and J Brennan can exploit the spaces in 2nd half. Langan and E B Gallagher in reserve also. Need to hit the ground running though. Adh Mor lads 's Go N'eiri an bothair linn. DLGael (Donegal) - Posts: 111 - 05/07/2017 07:58:13 2010823 Link 0 |
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Pan, I agree with most of your posts but can't agree with all of what you say here. Fair enough about the lack of development in tactics although I was one of many that thought we had a bit more variation to our play during the league but we have gone back to 14 behind the ball for championship. On this has Hugh McFadden and Paddy McBrearty actually started in the same game this year? I don't think they have which means RG doesn't want to play with 2 full forwards which is hard to understand. I can't agree with you in relation to ignoring the younger players in the last 2 years? Who are these players? Ciaran Thompson was blooded in the league last year and injury prevented him from getting a chance in Ulster. Ciaran Gillespie played in both league and championship last year and Eoin Ban made a few appearances off the bench (don't think he was phyically ready for anymore). Even though it's hard to imagine right now this year will benefit all the lads aged 19-22 massively in the next 2 years. There is a bigger picture to look at. In relation to the game this weekend I really hope Hugh McFadden and Martin McElhinney come into the side and we play Hugh up front with McBrearty. One positive from the last 2 games is the form of McBrearty, if we can get him enough ball he can win us this game and playing Hugh would help this. Gillespie must be injured again as he didn't feature last weekend and we know RG is a fan of his. The closer it gets to Saturday I think we might scrape over the line and I definitely wasn't thinking like this last saturday leaving Ballybofey. Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 05/07/2017 11:15:41 2010881 Link 0 |
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shades of 2009?? did you not see the massacre Donegal dished out to Antrim in the first round? I wouldn't worry about any 14 point trimmings by Cork this year either, they'd struggle to put 14 points on the board in a match their shooting has been that bad. I wouldn't say expectations have nose dived, more so they have balanced off since the departure of Jim. What Jim achieved with Donegal was above and beyond expectations of anyone in the county. I don't know if there is anyone in the game who could uphold those standards. I wouldn't be RG's biggest fan personally, but I think he's done pretty well in that poisoned chalice position.
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 05/07/2017 12:00:46 2010904 Link 0 |
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Poor RD getting a hard time on here from the looks of it. I'm waiting for a repeat of the bet he made with someone from Tyrone a few years ago where he said he was going to leave the forum if meath lost. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 05/07/2017 13:06:18 2010947 Link 1 |
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I don't think Ciaran Thompson was injured in the Ulster Championship last year bar maybe the first game but I stand to be corrected on that. Ciaran Gillespie got introduced by default. I really don't think he would have were it not for basically no other options. Eoghan Ban did not get any game time as far as I am aware in the Ulster Championship instead there were players reintroduced after getting taken off. As for the posters backing RG have u really been following the situation closely? I think most Donegal supporters who have do not have the wool pulled over there eyes. I wiped the slate clean with RG this year and seen some improvements in the league but then a return to the same ol same ol. What Jim done was incredible. He was and is a tactical genius but was he done more than anything else was show Donegal players to actually reach their potential after years of under achievement. I think that is why supporters expectations have raised as they know what these lads are capable of. For me I would have been more than happy with staying in Division 1 as I thought Donegal were near certainties to go down at the start of the league. Then a decent showing against Tyrone in Ulster with a run in the qualifiers with the condition that Donegal showed more variation in their play and show real signs of progress in this regard. We quite simply have not seen this and what is more Donegal have lost their defensive edge with class acts like MM and Ryan McHugh playing nowhere near their best which is really really worrying. I have great belief in the players there and the young lads coming through. I have no doubt in a couple of years when conditioning is brought up to the required levels necessary Donegal can be really competitive again with the top teams but I have no faith of this under the current regime and I just do not see that changing.
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 05/07/2017 13:55:01 2010978 Link 1 |
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I think every Donegal supporter thought the same after the Tyrone match however what we got last week was worse. The only difference was the level of opposition and even then Longford I feel should have beaten us. I would love to think we can come out and put on a display but I don't see it happening. I wouldn't fully blame Rory although he has a massive part to play, but the players also have a responsibility when they put on that jersey, However a simple video session this week should give the players a big enough kick up the behind. Show them a clip of them bursting forward and then all stopping at the 40. Why not get ahead of the play and create proper chances. Maybe even play 2 up. Hugh McFaddan deserves his place based on match performances. Then we have another option. Show them a clip of them bursting themselves to get back on our own 40 and then just stopping and letting Longford walk through them. Where was the passion? Where was the aggression? Where was the contact? There was only 1 hit put in by a Donegal player last week that I can recall and that was Paddy McGrath. In my mind you don't have to be big to be brave and stand your ground in defence. If someone like me can see these things why cant Rory and his backroom team. dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 05/07/2017 14:26:41 2010998 Link 1 |
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A very difficult one for Meath, Donegal still have several quality players and if the young lads who preformed well in league rediscover their form it could be a long evening for us. However, we too showed good form on occassions in league so would not right us off.
seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2150 - 05/07/2017 17:25:26 2011091 Link 0 |
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Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1121 - 05/07/2017 18:27:15 2011117 Link 0 |
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Ahh sure I have to be optimistic, too many negative people from Meath around these days. I swear its the mayo blood in them whingers" as enda said :). Anyhow we have a chance, I do think its 50/50. If we recapture the form from league towards end I think we will win, of course Donegal will feel the same. Got me tickets , whole crew going , cant wait. Its days like this that as a fan you love, Donegal in a knock out match in Navan, what more could a real GAA man ask for ? royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/07/2017 19:18:01 2011131 Link 1 |