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Quick question lads, even though it's off topic. In round 4 of the qualifiers, can two counties from the same province, but who haven't met in the championship so far be drawn against each other. For example if Mayo were to face either Roscommon or Cork this year, would that mean they would play Cork automatically. Forpucksake (UK) - Posts: 130 - 04/07/2017 10:59:46 2010237 Link
Replying To Forpucksake: "Quick question lads, even though it's off topic. In round 4 of the qualifiers, can two counties from the same province, but who haven't met in the championship so far be drawn against each other. For example if Mayo were to face either Roscommon or Cork this year, would that mean they would play Cork automatically." If galway win and Mayo come through they can play ross,if ross win it will be mayo v cork. You can meet teams from same province,if you have met already they try to avoid at this stage. cornetto (Galway) - Posts: 223 - 04/07/2017 11:36:28 2010277 Link
All due respect to Clare, but in all seriousness,Mayo by 10+. Marse (Dublin) - Posts: 217 - 04/07/2017 11:41:30 2010290 Link
Replying To cornetto: "If galway win and Mayo come through they can play ross,if ross win it will be mayo v cork. You can meet teams from same province,if you have met already they try to avoid at this stage." Cheers for that Forpucksake (UK) - Posts: 130 - 04/07/2017 12:08:53 2010316 Link
Maybe this Mayo team need more regular games to get them tested and up to speed. Last year they improved as they progressed and this weekends game will be hard. Drawn away straight knockout but good enough to come through in the end Mayo could benefit while Kerry and Dublin cruise through to the quarters. Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 04/07/2017 13:20:56 2010375 Link
Replying To Marse: "All due respect to Clare, but in all seriousness,Mayo by 10+." Jesus H, I know there's a load of uninformed people on here that like to dismiss Munster as 'a hurling province' and the Munster football championship as a joke and 'a disgrace' (to use an amadáin of a Dublin poster's recent terminology) but why don't ye actually pay a bit of attention to what the counties down here have been doing in League and Championship before ye write this guff. Clare give us our fill of it - they have possibly the best midfield in the country and a fine forward unit. They are the second best team in Munster at the moment and were comfortably mid-table in Division 2. That's the same division mind that Galway and Kildare have come from and that Down just about survived in before they went and beat Monaghan. Mayo were terrible on Sunday against a side Clare would beat most days of the week IMO. Ennis is a small, tight pitch that Kerry often struggle in never mind a misfiring Mayo side that looked for large parts on Saturday like they were hoping someone would put them out of their misery. I'm not trying to have a go at Mayo at all by the way, I'm just saying give Clare the respect they have earned and stop thinking it's still the days of the Miltown Massacre!! Clare will be a serious threat and you know what I'm going to stick my neck out and say I think they can win this and produce the shock of the Championship next Saturday night! TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 04/07/2017 13:22:09 2010378 Link
The pitch in Ennis is actually larger dimensions wise than MacHale Park. Clare won't be taken lightly. If Mayo can show more of the form that we did in ET then we will beat Clare and beat them easily. More of the same in normal time and we will be beat. It is as simple as that. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 04/07/2017 13:27:55 2010386 Link
Replying To festinog: "Daft post: Dublin and Kerry would be expected to beat just about any team in the country easily enough at the moment, with Tyrone not far behind. That has nothing to do with this game. Mayo are struggling to find form and can take nothing for granted. They couldn't beat a shoddy Galway defense despite playing with a gale force wind behind them and they only pulled away from Derry in extra time. If the win against Derry has brought their confidence up, and they're beginning to find their form, then Clare are in for a bad day. Otherwise, it could be tight all the way to the wire. I'm very curious to see how the season goes for Mayo; the similarities will last year are striking and after struggling through the qualifiers they put it to Dublin twice. They're currently down, but definitely not out!" Why considered it a daft post? You allude to as I do that there are similarities with last year and Mayo will get better. Thus they remain a top 4 team and as such , an AI contender (if somewhat diminished chances based on form). Or should we all go along with the natural cautiousness of Mayo fans (we all play down our teams chances) and consider Clare a tough challenge? I wonder than what would have been considered a good draw for Mayo. Maybe a Donegal or such like. The bookies leave all emotions aside and weigh it up on all things considered. They have Mayo at 1/4. Perhaps they are as daft as I am. poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 04/07/2017 13:36:57 2010391 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "Jesus H, I know there's a load of uninformed people on here that like to dismiss Munster as 'a hurling province' and the Munster football championship as a joke and 'a disgrace' (to use an amadáin of a Dublin poster's recent terminology) but why don't ye actually pay a bit of attention to what the counties down here have been doing in League and Championship before ye write this guff. Clare give us our fill of it - they have possibly the best midfield in the country and a fine forward unit. They are the second best team in Munster at the moment and were comfortably mid-table in Division 2. That's the same division mind that Galway and Kildare have come from and that Down just about survived in before they went and beat Monaghan. Mayo were terrible on Sunday against a side Clare would beat most days of the week IMO. Ennis is a small, tight pitch that Kerry often struggle in never mind a misfiring Mayo side that looked for large parts on Saturday like they were hoping someone would put them out of their misery. I'm not trying to have a go at Mayo at all by the way, I'm just saying give Clare the respect they have earned and stop thinking it's still the days of the Miltown Massacre!! Clare will be a serious threat and you know what I'm going to stick my neck out and say I think they can win this and produce the shock of the Championship next Saturday night!" Fair comment but just how much a shock it would be is debatable. If we could only draw at home to Derry, losing away to Clare is a fairly logical outcome. At the same time I don't think that logic and Mayo would often fit in the same sentence! Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 04/07/2017 13:41:36 2010398 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "Jesus H, I know there's a load of uninformed people on here that like to dismiss Munster as 'a hurling province' and the Munster football championship as a joke and 'a disgrace' (to use an amadáin of a Dublin poster's recent terminology) but why don't ye actually pay a bit of attention to what the counties down here have been doing in League and Championship before ye write this guff. Clare give us our fill of it - they have possibly the best midfield in the country and a fine forward unit. They are the second best team in Munster at the moment and were comfortably mid-table in Division 2. That's the same division mind that Galway and Kildare have come from and that Down just about survived in before they went and beat Monaghan. Mayo were terrible on Sunday against a side Clare would beat most days of the week IMO. Ennis is a small, tight pitch that Kerry often struggle in never mind a misfiring Mayo side that looked for large parts on Saturday like they were hoping someone would put them out of their misery. I'm not trying to have a go at Mayo at all by the way, I'm just saying give Clare the respect they have earned and stop thinking it's still the days of the Miltown Massacre!! Clare will be a serious threat and you know what I'm going to stick my neck out and say I think they can win this and produce the shock of the Championship next Saturday night!" We are getting to the serious side of the championship. How often does a team of Clare's standing beat a team of Mayo's calibre at such a stage? Doing well in league and putting in a good show v Kerry does not count too much compared to a team who has been here every year. You use the word shock and that's exactly what it would be. Therefore all points calling a comfortable Mayo win are vindicated. poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 04/07/2017 13:44:30 2010403 Link
Based on how terrible Mayo were in the first 70 mins on Sat i give Clare a huge chance here.. Extra time Derry were dead on their feet and once the goalkeeper made the mistake for the goal and Derry missed thei peno that was that.. Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 04/07/2017 13:48:50 2010409 Link
Replying To Byanthon: "Maybe this Mayo team need more regular games to get them tested and up to speed. Last year they improved as they progressed and this weekends game will be hard. Drawn away straight knockout but good enough to come through in the end Mayo could benefit while Kerry and Dublin cruise through to the quarters." There is a certain logic to that argument but, and it's a very big BUT, it falls down if Mayo get beaten by a fairly decent Clare side next Sat. Or take Donegal - suppose they get thru the qualifiers and end up facing Kerry in the QF a week after having played their 4A match - that's hardly preferable to facing Kildare in the QF after a 2 or 3 week rest which is the path for the Ulster champs. timmyhogan (UK) - Posts: 290 - 04/07/2017 13:52:20 2010412 Link
This is a huge game for both counties, not only because it is a knockout game but also because it will define the futures of both teams in a serious way. I would compare this game for Clare the same as a share that is poised on breaking the resistance price. If they do it then they will move on and possibly end up in a quarter final for the 2nd season in a row. They would also look good going into 2018. Lose it and they could struggle to stay up in division 2 next year. Mayo could get a lot of heart from winning this game and set up a potential game against Kerry. That would be an interesting fixture if it happens for recent historical reasons. I think that Mayo will have exorcised a lot of demons in the last 5 minutes and the extra time of the derry game. For that reason I think they will go from strength to strength, especially the fact that they are out of castlebar where the pressure would be on them big time. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 04/07/2017 13:53:23 2010414 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "The pitch in Ennis is actually larger dimensions wise than MacHale Park. Clare won't be taken lightly. If Mayo can show more of the form that we did in ET then we will beat Clare and beat them easily. More of the same in normal time and we will be beat. It is as simple as that." I actually don't think it was a case of Mayo suddenly going up through the gears in ET, Derry were absolutely wasted at that stage and out on their feet after the 70 mins. That's why Mayo could pull clear. I expect Clare to put it up to Mayo on Saturday, but Mayo to come through by a point or two which will please all Mayo folk. Rocky.Road (Galway) - Posts: 374 - 04/07/2017 14:02:05 2010424 Link
Clare defo have a chance considering nobody knows where Mayo are at. I still think Mayo by a few points although we need to tighten up the middle big time! TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 04/07/2017 14:56:56 2010470 Link
Replying To Rocky.Road: "I actually don't think it was a case of Mayo suddenly going up through the gears in ET, Derry were absolutely wasted at that stage and out on their feet after the 70 mins. That's why Mayo could pull clear. I expect Clare to put it up to Mayo on Saturday, but Mayo to come through by a point or two which will please all Mayo folk." I was told last week if it went to extra time that the "older" tired and weary Mayo would be beaten. A positive was our lads looked anything but tired in ET. The subs also worked well especially Loftus, Doherty and SOS. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 04/07/2017 18:58:12 2010639 Link
I would have Clare ahead of Derry so far that reason they have a chance , equally Mayo not looking like a team ravenous for an all Ireland willing to do whatever it takes , will be taking Mayo on in the bookies depending on the spread Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 04/07/2017 19:19:32 2010655 Link
Conor Loftus knows how to find the back of the net in a big game in Cusack Park. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7360 - 04/07/2017 19:31:37 2010664 Link
What price will I get on Clare? If Mayo play as they did for 70 minutes against Derry Clare will take them to start off a great weekend for the Banner. Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 04/07/2017 19:36:16 2010666 Link
Replying To superbluedub: "Omg would you wake up , kerry were in 3rd gear" Did you see the full Clare Kerry game. With that post I doubt it. Clare were leading and hit the crossbar during the second half. While Kerry may well have won anyway it is lazy analysis to say they were in 3rd gear. in actual fact they were at full tilt to win that match. I just don't get it that everytime the 'top 3' have a close game it is because they were in 3rd gear. I suppose if the Dubs don't annihilate Kildare it is because they were in 3rd gear. The top 3 won't be the top 3 forever. A few yrs ago many said that Kilkenny would never be stopped in hurling and slowly but surely they have moved down the pecking order. it happens in all sports. kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1947 - 04/07/2017 21:11:19 2010703 Link