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Tipperary V Westmeath

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Our County Chairman is out of order here!

Let another County offer it and then accept but don't go begging.

Embarrassing

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 28/06/2017 17:54:04    2007033

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Replying To Darragh:  "It can't all be about the almighty Euro and how much Tipp bring in from gate receipts. I understand the Tipperary right to host the game as the first team drawn out but having the game in Mullingar would have been better for hurling in the Midlands. Surely it is beholden on one of the most successful counties and current all Ireland champions with a team of greats to also look to promote the game in a weaker county. Then again maybe ye are still sore over losing a pair of League games in the 80s to us............doubtful as it is!!!"
I think we're fairly rattled alright the way yer putting it up to KK at U21 who knows!!

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 28/06/2017 18:04:42    2007037

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Replying To Darragh:  "It can't all be about the almighty Euro and how much Tipp bring in from gate receipts. I understand the Tipperary right to host the game as the first team drawn out but having the game in Mullingar would have been better for hurling in the Midlands. Surely it is beholden on one of the most successful counties and current all Ireland champions with a team of greats to also look to promote the game in a weaker county. Then again maybe ye are still sore over losing a pair of League games in the 80s to us............doubtful as it is!!!"
We've done more than our fair share to promote the game. Dinny Cahill coached Antrim. Joe Hayes was player/ coach when Monaghan won their only hurling all Ireland title. O'Dwyer a Tipp under 21 in 95 gave great service to Derry hurling. Brislane and Hammersley played for Meath. A host of Tipp players including all Ireland winners played for Kildare in the last 15 years and Kildare have been coached by a Tipp man. Bonnar is current Carlow manager, was involved with Waterford and Wexford too. Brian Flannery played on the breakthrough Waterford team in 98, he was another 95 under 21 winner. Kelly has coached Offaly, Laois and Kerry in recent years. Brendan Cummins has been involved with Laois and Kerry. Len Gaynor did then groundwork for Loughnane in Clare. Brother Ryan was involved with Laois and Waterford.

But the convenient theory as usual is Tipp don't care about anyone but themselves.

We had a brilliant weekend in Antrim honouring Fr Alex Reid with Antrim GAA in January.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 28/06/2017 18:11:15    2007041

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PS I think it would be extremely condescending if we conceded home advantage to ye. We are showing ye the respect ye deserve. This is knock out hurling from here on in.

I knew ye beat us twice in the 80s and fair play to ye.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 28/06/2017 18:16:12    2007043

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "We've done more than our fair share to promote the game. Dinny Cahill coached Antrim. Joe Hayes was player/ coach when Monaghan won their only hurling all Ireland title. O'Dwyer a Tipp under 21 in 95 gave great service to Derry hurling. Brislane and Hammersley played for Meath. A host of Tipp players including all Ireland winners played for Kildare in the last 15 years and Kildare have been coached by a Tipp man. Bonnar is current Carlow manager, was involved with Waterford and Wexford too. Brian Flannery played on the breakthrough Waterford team in 98, he was another 95 under 21 winner. Kelly has coached Offaly, Laois and Kerry in recent years. Brendan Cummins has been involved with Laois and Kerry. Len Gaynor did then groundwork for Loughnane in Clare. Brother Ryan was involved with Laois and Waterford.

But the convenient theory as usual is Tipp don't care about anyone but themselves.

We had a brilliant weekend in Antrim honouring Fr Alex Reid with Antrim GAA in January."
John McIntyre with Galway and Offaly!!
Richie Stakelum and Tommy Dunne with Dublin!!
Brian Lacey was a tipp man best corner back Kildare football ever had!!
Ken Hogan was involved with Coolderry brought them to an all Ireland final!!

I know where Westmeath are coming from but our CB look like their saying if yer good enough to be in Liam McCarthy cup then be good enough to take us on anywhere.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 28/06/2017 18:45:02    2007058

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "We've done more than our fair share to promote the game. Dinny Cahill coached Antrim. Joe Hayes was player/ coach when Monaghan won their only hurling all Ireland title. O'Dwyer a Tipp under 21 in 95 gave great service to Derry hurling. Brislane and Hammersley played for Meath. A host of Tipp players including all Ireland winners played for Kildare in the last 15 years and Kildare have been coached by a Tipp man. Bonnar is current Carlow manager, was involved with Waterford and Wexford too. Brian Flannery played on the breakthrough Waterford team in 98, he was another 95 under 21 winner. Kelly has coached Offaly, Laois and Kerry in recent years. Brendan Cummins has been involved with Laois and Kerry. Len Gaynor did then groundwork for Loughnane in Clare. Brother Ryan was involved with Laois and Waterford.

But the convenient theory as usual is Tipp don't care about anyone but themselves.

We had a brilliant weekend in Antrim honouring Fr Alex Reid with Antrim GAA in January."
Sorry mis-key. Fr Alec Reid

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 28/06/2017 18:46:44    2007059

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Replying To WildPundit:  "John McIntyre with Galway and Offaly!!
Richie Stakelum and Tommy Dunne with Dublin!!
Brian Lacey was a tipp man best corner back Kildare football ever had!!
Ken Hogan was involved with Coolderry brought them to an all Ireland final!!

I know where Westmeath are coming from but our CB look like their saying if yer good enough to be in Liam McCarthy cup then be good enough to take us on anywhere."
Paudi Butler with Laois. Dinny Cahill with Laois.

Paudie O'Neill with Ballyboden and Dublin Primary schools.

Ryan O'Dwyer current Dublin hurler.

But apart from all of that, what have Tipperary ever done for hurling. We are such a selfish bunch in Tipp.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 28/06/2017 19:00:59    2007065

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Ok people can we get back on topic and actually discuss the match? I think this is just the draw Tipperary needed. No disrespect to Westmeath but im predicting a comfortable Tipperary win. They could get Dublin/Laois in the next round as well and go on a nice little winning streak. I definitely see them getting to an all Ireland semi final.

HurlingSnob (Dublin) - Posts: 220 - 28/06/2017 19:32:50    2007075

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Replying To HurlingSnob:  "Ok people can we get back on topic and actually discuss the match? I think this is just the draw Tipperary needed. No disrespect to Westmeath but im predicting a comfortable Tipperary win. They could get Dublin/Laois in the next round as well and go on a nice little winning streak. I definitely see them getting to an all Ireland semi final."
Their goalkeeper looks extremely ropey. I hope the likes of Doyle and Devine play well cos they are more than capable at this level.

If we beat Westmeath I would be more than happy to play the winners of Dublin and Laois next. We need to build our confidence back up through momentum gained from winning matches.

The quarter finals and semi finals could be top notch stuff this year. PuC will have great games to open the ground.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 28/06/2017 20:04:47    2007090

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Replying To HurlingSnob:  "Ok people can we get back on topic and actually discuss the match? I think this is just the draw Tipperary needed. No disrespect to Westmeath but im predicting a comfortable Tipperary win. They could get Dublin/Laois in the next round as well and go on a nice little winning streak. I definitely see them getting to an all Ireland semi final."
Start a new thread then bucko

Darragh (Westmeath) - Posts: 301 - 28/06/2017 20:45:50    2007108

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Replying To HurlingSnob:  "Ok people can we get back on topic and actually discuss the match? I think this is just the draw Tipperary needed. No disrespect to Westmeath but im predicting a comfortable Tipperary win. They could get Dublin/Laois in the next round as well and go on a nice little winning streak. I definitely see them getting to an all Ireland semi final."
Conversation is like a tree, it branches and diversifies, so while the game itself is not to be ignored, we'll talk about what we want to talk about without any preaching from those with a traffic warden mentality, thanks.

MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 28/06/2017 20:50:45    2007111

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Replying To Darragh:  "Start a new thread then bucko"
What's your thoughts on the game Darragh?

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 28/06/2017 21:03:15    2007119

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Replying To HurlingSnob:  "Ok people can we get back on topic and actually discuss the match? I think this is just the draw Tipperary needed. No disrespect to Westmeath but im predicting a comfortable Tipperary win. They could get Dublin/Laois in the next round as well and go on a nice little winning streak. I definitely see them getting to an all Ireland semi final."
If Waterford beat Offaly, then I think we can only face either the Dublin/Laois or Kilkenny/Limerick winners. As far as I know, teams that have already met are kept apart, right?

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 28/06/2017 21:28:53    2007129

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Replying To MedwayIrish:  "Conversation is like a tree, it branches and diversifies, so while the game itself is not to be ignored, we'll talk about what we want to talk about without any preaching from those with a traffic warden mentality, thanks."
Haha that's a good way of describing pretty much every thread on this website.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 28/06/2017 21:32:22    2007133

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Haha that's a good way of describing pretty much every thread on this website."
Exactly, like a virtual pub chat and I see nothing wrong with that! If I want a bullet-pointed agenda where I'm told specifically what to discuss I can get that at work!

MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 28/06/2017 21:55:18    2007144

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Replying To Marlon_JD:  "If Waterford beat Offaly, then I think we can only face either the Dublin/Laois or Kilkenny/Limerick winners. As far as I know, teams that have already met are kept apart, right?"
Wait, I'm talking nonsense. Tipp and Waterford haven't met yet, so we could meet in the second round. I think the next level of qualifiers will be a completely open draw, as I don't think there'll be 2 teams involved that have played each other already.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 28/06/2017 22:39:17    2007164

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Would it not make sense to seed/give home advantage to teams from the qualifier group?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 29/06/2017 01:54:39    2007221

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Replying To MedwayIrish:  "Exactly, like a virtual pub chat and I see nothing wrong with that! If I want a bullet-pointed agenda where I'm told specifically what to discuss I can get that at work!"
Ok you go ahead and discuss changing the venue for a match that's taking place on Saturday evening. Maybe other people actually want to discuss the hurling.

HurlingSnob (Dublin) - Posts: 220 - 29/06/2017 02:12:49    2007224

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Replying To keeper7:  "Would it not make sense to seed/give home advantage to teams from the qualifier group?"
You are like a dog with a bone Keeper.
Would you not take a spin down to Thurles. I know Mullingar is more convenient for you.

It's the luck of the draw. The other Munster teams got away fixtures. If Westmeath had got home advantage we would have happily travelled up to Mullingar and made no qualms about just like our ill fated trip to Nowlan Park in 2013.

Having said all that I see where you are coming from but that not be condescending? Did Carlow travel to Laois for their game?

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 29/06/2017 04:18:41    2007229

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Replying To Brian_Coyote:  "In the same vain, if Antrim win the Ulster u21 and reach a semi final or if any of our colleges in Antrim get to the college final it is played in Thurles a 10 hour round trip. Big deal if Tipp have to travel a few yards up the road to promote hurling in Westmeath."
That's not a like for like comparison. The draw was a home and away draw. It's not Tipp's business to promote hurling in a rival Liam McCarthy Cup county. Its the GAA's.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 29/06/2017 08:33:52    2007249

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