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I don't think Connolly will get a 12 week suspension.
it's actually not the same as the other cases. In both mcgeeney and comerford cases the official's took action at the time and it was in the match report for both incidents.
in Connolly case both the linesman and the ref seen the incident take place and dealt with it at the time, it would be very unusual for the refs report to contradict his decision during the game as he felt the matter dealt with, therefore the ccc operate on the basis of what match day officials either report or has happened without the official's seeing take place.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/06/2017 13:58:46    1995012

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "I don't think Connolly will get a 12 week suspension.
it's actually not the same as the other cases. In both mcgeeney and comerford cases the official's took action at the time and it was in the match report for both incidents.
in Connolly case both the linesman and the ref seen the incident take place and dealt with it at the time, it would be very unusual for the refs report to contradict his decision during the game as he felt the matter dealt with, therefore the ccc operate on the basis of what match day officials either report or has happened without the official's seeing take place."
Comerford was sent off?

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 05/06/2017 14:15:36    1995024

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Apparently Dermo has a right to ask why the referee didn't adjudicate on the decision at the time and use this in mitigation to any sanction by the CCC.

I wonder will the CCC poke the tiger, be interesting to see who blinks first, i wouldn't say they will relish a confrontation with Dublin GAA's legal team.

I can see a sweet heart deal here of the books, probably sit out Leinster and back for the quarters.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 05/06/2017 14:18:21    1995026

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Comerford was sent off?"
Yeah sent off so it was reported by the referee in his report leading to the ccc having a disciplinary case.
the ccc by my understanding don't review incidents unless the referee reports it or the incident wasn't spotted at the time it took place. In Connolly case both officials the ref and linesman clearly seen it and deemed it not worthy of anything.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/06/2017 14:51:26    1995043

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If a sweet heart deal is worked out, what will the GAA say to the Tipp and Armagh county boards when they come asking why their men were treated differently? The minimum sanction for this type of incident is 12 weeks so going with a suspension of less than that doesn't appear to be in the authorities gift. It's going to be an interesting few days.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 05/06/2017 14:58:42    1995052

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Replying To Fionn:  "Murphy fully deserved to be sent off.

Grabs Cooper around the mouth and neck and pulls him to the ground.

Anyone saying he didnt deserve to see the line is not being honest..."
watch the incident as a neutral not a blinded by blue goggle Dublin supporter and you will see cooper turning his head as he's running up the pitch to see where murphy is, no ball in sight and then when he is close to the officials comes across murphy to block his run knowing full well what is liable to happen and of course murphy stupidly reacts with the inevitable outcome. Now is that a smart play or cynical tactic. take your pick depending on who you support.

bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 05/06/2017 15:00:57    1995055

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Dez Cahill was the host tonight. I disagree that he was shutting up Orourke and Spillane. He was trying to put another incident in the same context while the pair were doing their best to get Connolly banned for a few months."
couldn't remember his name, too much Ribena in the carrickdale after being took to be tortured in newry by my Armagh brother in law only good thing was 50 squids from him and a few from the bookie to pay for it.

bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 05/06/2017 15:05:11    1995056

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Replying To bulmccabe:  "watch the incident as a neutral not a blinded by blue goggle Dublin supporter and you will see cooper turning his head as he's running up the pitch to see where murphy is, no ball in sight and then when he is close to the officials comes across murphy to block his run knowing full well what is liable to happen and of course murphy stupidly reacts with the inevitable outcome. Now is that a smart play or cynical tactic. take your pick depending on who you support."
And so reading from that Cooper is responsible for Murphy acting the eejit! Terrible stuff really

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 05/06/2017 15:10:05    1995057

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Yeah sent off so it was reported by the referee in his report leading to the ccc having a disciplinary case.
the ccc by my understanding don't review incidents unless the referee reports it or the incident wasn't spotted at the time it took place. In Connolly case both officials the ref and linesman clearly seen it and deemed it not worthy of anything."
This is true about the ref acting on it during the game. An article in the indo suggests Dublin have a good argument if Connolly gets a lengthy ban.

KerryKillers (Dublin) - Posts: 711 - 05/06/2017 15:10:41    1995058

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It is a nothing incident it wasn't aggressive in my opinion Ive seen him do much worse and carlow players got plenty of digs in but it's a match official and not a player so rules are and should be harsher.the rules are clear he touched a match official it's 12 weeks.

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 05/06/2017 15:17:30    1995060

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Replying To kildare73:  "If a sweet heart deal is worked out, what will the GAA say to the Tipp and Armagh county boards when they come asking why their men were treated differently? The minimum sanction for this type of incident is 12 weeks so going with a suspension of less than that doesn't appear to be in the authorities gift. It's going to be an interesting few days."
Armagh and tipp cases as you call them were different.
the match official reported both them incidents when they took place by way of punishing them and had it in their match reports. The officials here deemed no action neccessary when the incident took place involving Connolly so unless the match report contradicts there own decisions during the game the matter would be classed as dealt with during the game. Where as in both mcgeeney and comerford cases the ccc were given disciplinary issues.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/06/2017 15:19:27    1995061

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Another summer talking about Diarmuid Connolly's temperament, or lack thereof. Great.

I didn't see the incident at the time and having seem the reaction online was expecting something more.

However the rules do seem quite clear to me so he cannot really complain if he gets the 12 weeks. He'll be a big loss for Dublin no doubt as we can see from the gleeful reaction of some but there's no one to blame but himself in this incident.

It's not like other incidents where he was defending himself. There was no need to do what he did. Great player with a major flaw."
what has amazed me for years is the way some supporters are so paroachial in their support of their own county and any indiscretions however serious by players and the condemn other players for the same type of behaviour. If we are honest with ourselves we know the player has done wrong but revel in the controversies and responses which will inevitably appear here. It shouldn't matter what county or how high or low a profile or his advertising or whatever worth to counties and gaa if he does wrong then everybody should be condemning it and shouting from the rafters. Maybe if the supporters, county boards, team mates and management started saying ok enough is enough then we may see changes in players behaviour and then spectators behaviour. But I suppose that's living in dream land

bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 05/06/2017 15:22:16    1995062

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Replying To kildare73:  "If a sweet heart deal is worked out, what will the GAA say to the Tipp and Armagh county boards when they come asking why their men were treated differently? The minimum sanction for this type of incident is 12 weeks so going with a suspension of less than that doesn't appear to be in the authorities gift. It's going to be an interesting few days."
The rule is very clear. In fact in many ways to clear.

The nuance is the action taken by the ref and other officials at the time who saw the incident and the match report. If it is cited in the match report, then their is a broad space for the legal team to challenge why it wasnt deemed an infraction at the time by the officiating team. Thus also validity of the referee to act without prejudice in the intervening period and exposure to public opinion, media etc given the profile of the the player can be questioned.

If its not in the match the match report, then the same argument can be made in the deviation of referrers interpretation of the rule in the match report and that of the CCC. they may not align and if not the undermining of the CCC of the authority of match day officials.

Im not saying he wont or shouldn't get the a 12 week suspension all im saying is will be interesting to see the players, county board and the GAA's response to this and the process's.

The line of least resistances is a watered down ban so every one saves face. This one is going to be fascinating.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 05/06/2017 15:22:32    1995064

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "For a tapping a linesman, give over. I'd back any player from any county over this. I'm after getting sent a picture of a certain players with his hands all over a ref in last years championship , players put their hands on refs and nothing is ever said. This is a witch hunt cause of who the player is."
again, a player should not be aggressively confronting an official, or lay a hand on one either no matter how it is whether just touch, poking or shoving or worse, they know full well the consequences especially for some counties who will be scrutinised to death but some don't give a hoot as they seem to think sure our legal team will keep me ok. Just condemn it for what it is regardless of the team or player, bringing up last year or last week has nowt to do with it. It is the incident now that's relevant. Also do not see the enjoyment some people seem to revel in when another county loses big players.

bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 05/06/2017 15:32:01    1995069

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D-day tomorrow:

The Central Competitions Control Committee of the GAA will meet tomorrow night to review footage of the Diarmuid Connolly incident.

The Dublin attacker is facing a potential 12-week ban if found guilty of putting a hand on linesman Ciaran Brannigan during the All-Ireland champions' 0-19 to 0-7 Leinster SFC quarter-final victory over Carlow on Saturday night.

No action was taken by referee Sean Hurson at the time, but Connolly's breach of Rule 5.32, which relates to "minor physical interference" of officials and carries a minimum 12-week suspension, doesn't bode well for the St. Vincent's clubman. Last week, Tipperary goalkeeper Evan Comerford received a similar sanction following an incident with referee Paddy Russell in the aftermath of a club game.

Should the CCCC throw the rule book at Connolly, he would be ineligible to play for the Dubs again this season, unless they reach the All-Ireland final.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 05/06/2017 15:36:42    1995072

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Yeah sent off so it was reported by the referee in his report leading to the ccc having a disciplinary case.
the ccc by my understanding don't review incidents unless the referee reports it or the incident wasn't spotted at the time it took place. In Connolly case both officials the ref and linesman clearly seen it and deemed it not worthy of anything."
Thanks for getting back to me. I thought that is what you meant.

Then the way the GAA has their disciplinary structure set up is not fit for purpose. He'll probably be ok so.

I'm just frustrated at the inconsistency and overall poor quality of refereeing. Comerford is pretty much gone for the inter county season for something he did during a club game, which was rightfully noted in the referees report. I think it's extremely harsh that the ban carries over to inter county too as it's with another team he plays for. I'm sure the wise men at HQ have a logical reason for it.

The linesman has failed in his job if he didn't report the incident to the referee cos the referee might have genuinely missed Connolly's push.

The GAA are so obsessed with tinkering with championship structures that they can't seem to sort out the basic administration of the game.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 05/06/2017 15:40:09    1995073

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Replying To bulmccabe:  "again, a player should not be aggressively confronting an official, or lay a hand on one either no matter how it is whether just touch, poking or shoving or worse, they know full well the consequences especially for some counties who will be scrutinised to death but some don't give a hoot as they seem to think sure our legal team will keep me ok. Just condemn it for what it is regardless of the team or player, bringing up last year or last week has nowt to do with it. It is the incident now that's relevant. Also do not see the enjoyment some people seem to revel in when another county loses big players."
No chance it's a nothing incident, he barely touches him. Dublin legal team will destroy any case the Ccccccccccccc bring against Connolly.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 05/06/2017 15:40:50    1995074

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Thanks for getting back to me. I thought that is what you meant.

Then the way the GAA has their disciplinary structure set up is not fit for purpose. He'll probably be ok so.

I'm just frustrated at the inconsistency and overall poor quality of refereeing. Comerford is pretty much gone for the inter county season for something he did during a club game, which was rightfully noted in the referees report. I think it's extremely harsh that the ban carries over to inter county too as it's with another team he plays for. I'm sure the wise men at HQ have a logical reason for it.

The linesman has failed in his job if he didn't report the incident to the referee cos the referee might have genuinely missed Connolly's push.

The GAA are so obsessed with tinkering with championship structures that they can't seem to sort out the basic administration of the game."
Do you know what comerford actually did?
as i haven't seen a single report state what actually happened.
Annoying thing about pundits like spillane and o Rourke and other journalists is they constantly suggest comerford got suspended so Connolly has to aswell without knowing what the player actually did or bothering to analyse the ins and outs of each case it's very poor for guys getting paid to give opinions and misleading for the public.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/06/2017 16:35:58    1995093

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Replying To bulmccabe:  "watch the incident as a neutral not a blinded by blue goggle Dublin supporter and you will see cooper turning his head as he's running up the pitch to see where murphy is, no ball in sight and then when he is close to the officials comes across murphy to block his run knowing full well what is liable to happen and of course murphy stupidly reacts with the inevitable outcome. Now is that a smart play or cynical tactic. take your pick depending on who you support."
So did Murphy deserve to get sent off or not...????

Of course he did - a 2nd yellow was the least he deserved for grabbing a player by the mouth and also around the neck and throwing him to the ground...

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3733 - 05/06/2017 16:42:29    1995098

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Yes he should be suspended, any hands on the officials should not be tolerated & it's there in the rules. What a stupid action over a line ball & them winning, I think Dublin would be better without him as he is a liability at present with his indiscipline & it detracts from their game. Lots of talent there, bring them in & let Connolly reflect on his constant disciplinary problems while banned to the sideline.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 05/06/2017 16:51:24    1995105

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