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A really good first half and a terrible scrappy niggly second. Some blatant fouls missed right in front of ref - weird. But the silly pushing and shoving just delayed the game. Armagh going for goal cost them this game hugely. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 04/06/2017 15:49:24 1994467 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "Ah now this is the game I love end to end attacking, goal chances galore loving it. Tyrone and Donegal are yous watching?" Why do Donegal need to watch.?Goal chances galore? Are you forgetting a certain semi finall in 2014. I remember goal chances galore that day! InishowenMan (Donegal) - Posts: 216 - 04/06/2017 15:49:36 1994468 Link
I only saw the last half hour. Thought the ref was good, let the game flow. It's a physical game and I'd rather watch a game flow with a few hits where a ref makes a few mistakes than a stop start game ruined by a trigger-happy ref. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 04/06/2017 15:51:03 1994471 Link
Delighted for Down, great performance, can't understand Armagh not taking their chances for points, think Mc Geeney not being on the line makes a difference some how, will Brolly eat his words now, all the bs he has been spouting about Armagh being this great attacking team, they looked a bit clueless to me at times. entertaining game all the same. wish we could transfer Mooney from Down to Donegal!! Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2749 - 04/06/2017 15:55:30 1994474 Link
Bad 2nd half, good first. Not a bad add for the game in terms of evenly matched sides. But the quality of the game still is on the poor side. I think that Down will improve. A tricky proposition for either Cavan or monaghan. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 04/06/2017 16:00:22 1994478 Link
Down edged this contest because they had the better quality players I think. O hagan marked Clarke very well. I hope monaghan beat cavan ... downtothecore (Down) - Posts: 349 - 04/06/2017 16:22:49 1994491 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "I only saw the last half hour. Thought the ref was good, let the game flow. It's a physical game and I'd rather watch a game flow with a few hits where a ref makes a few mistakes than a stop start game ruined by a trigger-happy ref." you typify what is wrong with gaelic football regarding the rules. As I have said many times. before, It is not the ref's job to "Let the game flow" . It is the rwf's job to apply the rules. if it's a foul it's a free. Conor Lane missed or chose to ignore numerous fouls . this can also lead to skirmishes. also at the end, the players were off the field . let armagh players take the free. the players would soon resume. Why does it take GAA Refs so long to deal with issues. whats all this writing in notebooks in aid of. if he has a mike then wire it up to a recording device and say what you have to say in to the mike. i.e why you are booking someone. every player has a number on his back why do you need to write down a name. s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 04/06/2017 16:26:51 1994493 Link
Replying To s goldrick: "you typify what is wrong with gaelic football regarding the rules. As I have said many times. before, It is not the ref's job to "Let the game flow" . It is the rwf's job to apply the rules. if it's a foul it's a free. Conor Lane missed or chose to ignore numerous fouls . this can also lead to skirmishes. also at the end, the players were off the field . let armagh players take the free. the players would soon resume. Why does it take GAA Refs so long to deal with issues. whats all this writing in notebooks in aid of. if he has a mike then wire it up to a recording device and say what you have to say in to the mike. i.e why you are booking someone. every player has a number on his back why do you need to write down a name." Yip. That's it. Because I prefer a referee who let's a game flow I typify what's wrong with Gaelic football regarding the rules. Me being the experienced referee and the guy who writes the rules of Gaelic football. I also drive a car so I must have written the rules of the road. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 04/06/2017 16:52:56 1994509 Link
Replying To downtothecore: "Down edged this contest because they had the better quality players I think. O hagan marked Clarke very well. I hope monaghan beat cavan ..." Would you prefer to meet us in the semi? patk (Monaghan) - Posts: 936 - 04/06/2017 18:02:04 1994544 Link
Inconsistency of referee what about inconsistency of the SG commentators. 2 examples: Martin Carney "that's a dark cloud over what has been a great game, second half wasn't great but overall a good contest" - which is it Martin? Joe Brolly " the obligatory depressing finale of forward going for goal and is brought down - heroic gesture by McKernan" - he didn't say that about Sean Cavanagh - in fact he questioned his manhood - "if a player doesn't do it there will be questions in the changing room" - which is it Joe. Can they have one opinion and stick to it. IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 04/06/2017 18:32:44 1994565 Link
Replying To IrishGael3: "Inconsistency of referee what about inconsistency of the SG commentators. 2 examples: Martin Carney "that's a dark cloud over what has been a great game, second half wasn't great but overall a good contest" - which is it Martin? Joe Brolly " the obligatory depressing finale of forward going for goal and is brought down - heroic gesture by McKernan" - he didn't say that about Sean Cavanagh - in fact he questioned his manhood - "if a player doesn't do it there will be questions in the changing room" - which is it Joe. Can they have one opinion and stick to it." Joe was being sarcastic, that was quite obvious. He hates that type of play, we all do when we are losing but love it when winning. Iamlegion666 (Monaghan) - Posts: 285 - 04/06/2017 18:51:26 1994576 Link
Replying To Iamlegion666: "Joe was being sarcastic, that was quite obvious. He hates that type of play, we all do when we are losing but love it when winning." Sarcasm not double standards or bias - hmmm - not convinced one bit! IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 04/06/2017 19:19:05 1994596 Link
Replying To s goldrick: "what an poor performance by the ref. all day not giving frees and creating situations. then doesn't know who he has booked. also kevin McKeirnan has just given everyone a clear demonstration why the black card is not fit for purpose" Jesus the ref again. He tried to let the game flow and didn't blow every foul. The ref last night in dub game blew for every foul and people complained about him. Refs can't win. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 04/06/2017 19:34:57 1994607 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "I only saw the last half hour. Thought the ref was good, let the game flow. It's a physical game and I'd rather watch a game flow with a few hits where a ref makes a few mistakes than a stop start game ruined by a trigger-happy ref." Exactly. He helped contribute to a great first half. I think both teams got nervous of getting beat in the second half, especially Armagh, and both teams made mistakes and fouled. If he had of blew for all the fouls in the first half it would of been scrappy as well. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 04/06/2017 19:38:55 1994611 Link
Replying To Tirchonaill1: "Delighted for Down, great performance, can't understand Armagh not taking their chances for points, think Mc Geeney not being on the line makes a difference some how, will Brolly eat his words now, all the bs he has been spouting about Armagh being this great attacking team, they looked a bit clueless to me at times. entertaining game all the same. wish we could transfer Mooney from Down to Donegal!!" Mooney is some player in the making. Would suit the Donegal/Tyrone style of running football. Good luck to him and Down this year. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 04/06/2017 19:41:01 1994615 Link
Replying To patk: "Would you prefer to meet us in the semi?" Yes. That 19 point thumping you gave us last year was our lowest point in years and I think we are better than that.... but yourselves or a strong possibilty that it could be cavan this year would be overwhelming favourites against us :) downtothecore (Down) - Posts: 349 - 04/06/2017 19:41:15 1994616 Link
How does McGeeney keep getting inter county jobs and is seemingly rated very highly when he clearly isn't up to it!? Matthew (None) - Posts: 1007 - 04/06/2017 19:43:27 1994617 Link
Replying To The_Fridge: "Exactly. He helped contribute to a great first half. I think both teams got nervous of getting beat in the second half, especially Armagh, and both teams made mistakes and fouled. If he had of blew for all the fouls in the first half it would of been scrappy as well." I think the problem with last nights ref is that he was blowing for frees that were NOT fouls Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 04/06/2017 19:47:25 1994619 Link
I thoroughly enjoyable game from two teams that in all honesty will bow out early of this year's All Ireland championship. Down will take this win regardless, I thought we were the better team overall and should have won more comfortably. Armagh's inexperience told when they started going for goals with 5 mins of normal time left and given the injuries, at least 3 or 4 mins of added time. artisan (Down) - Posts: 1794 - 05/06/2017 08:11:55 1994839 Link
Replying To Cuckoosinging: "I think the problem with last nights ref is that he was blowing for frees that were NOT fouls" But isnt that the nub of the problem in terms of refereeing Gaelic football -- it is all so SUBJECTIVE. Get 3 knowledgeable Gaelic football people looking at an incident -- one will see a free in, another will see a free out, and the third mightn't see a free at all!! There's another thread running here about a "refereeing crisis". Referees are hardly to blame when an argument can be made for and against a free being given depending on how you interpret a given incident. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 05/06/2017 09:26:38 1994855 Link