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Replying To Torcaill:  ""
Now I am no rules expert (actually I don't know them at all) but I would find it hard to believe that you need to get out of someones way!

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1835 - 12/06/2017 09:38:32    1998285

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Didn't see the game, but nothing would surprise me about a certain Mayo player. Sure I'm blue in the face trying to point it out on here. Butter wouldn't melt!

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 12/06/2017 09:47:00    1998287

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Replying To Weary:  "Well done Galway. Great contest. Some quality play from both sides and at other times both sides were very poor.
Referee was a shambles. He always is. He lost control of the game at times and not consistent at all. The black card was questionable but was a black if you follow the law. There's also the human side of the ref, so No surprises that the black arrived not long after the red. The red was fully deserved and silly but genuinely out of character for Higgins.
Watched the game on TV. Have to say the commentator and co commentator should just say what they see in front of them and be fair to both sides.
Galway have alot of work to do. Their lauded forward line is still unproven and was guilty of kicking some poor wides. They may not get as many handy frees from a different ref. Galway played against 14 men for 3/4 of the game and just about held on. They must improve to make any impact later in the season.
I'd question some of the calls from the Mayo sideline. But again I trust they know more about their panel than any outsiders.
Looking forward to more contests like this for rest of championship."
It was questionable but was a black if you follow the law?LOL refs can't win

achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 12/06/2017 09:55:35    1998294

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It was a great game of football yesterday in testing conditions. The first "proper" championship game of the summer I would say. Galway just about deserved it in the end although they were hanging on for dear life. I know a lot of goalkeepers are a bit crazy but Lavelle must have given Kevin Walsh a conniption near the end!

A few talking points for me:

- That type of tight win will bring Galway on a lot. More so than if they'd hammered Mayo. They'll win Connacht and the next stepping stone in their development will be winning the quarter final. A semi final appearance and a return to Div 1 football would be a very decent year for this group. I think talk of an AI tilt is a wee bit premature. But they're definitely on the right track and as they further develop physically and tactically they are going to be a very good team. The talent is certainly there.

- I was a bit bemused by Mayo's selection and substitutions yesterday. It has been proven in the past that Cafferkey has difficulty with big, physical full forwards. Comer is a strong lad and a good footballer. Was Colm Boyle injured? I would have thought yesterday's game was right up his street, especially when Mayo found themselves a man down. Boyle for me is a man you definitely want in the trenches with you when the going gets tough. I thought the decision to take off Andy Moran was strange too. I know it was tough going yesterday, and he's one of the elder statesmen, but he'd just kicked a point when he was taken off. He is a very intelligent player, and as Galway tired I would have fancied Moran to pick off points or at least handed off the right pass to a man in a more favorable position. Instead we saw Kirby fluff a golden goal opportunity and Evan Regan kicking two wildly ambitious efforts to equalise near the end.

This talk of Mayo sailing through the qualifiers is dangerous talk if you ask me. What if they're drawn away to Donegal in Ballybofey? Or away to Tyrone in Omagh? Would Mayo supports be confident if they have to head north with where the team are at currently?

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9155 - 12/06/2017 10:21:14    1998308

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Not the end of the world but going the back door won't be as easy as last year. We have nobody new up front so how can we expect to get over the line. There is only so many times the same group of players can keep stepping up when questions are asked. Thought Rochford got it wrong on the line as well. Taking Kevin Mc off in a tight game like that was bizarre. And we need Andy Moran on the pitch at the end of tight games. If he doesn't have the legs don't start him but not having him and McLoughlin on at the end was crazy, especially when trying to work a score.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 12/06/2017 10:57:24    1998338

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Not the end of the world but going the back door won't be as easy as last year. We have nobody new up front so how can we expect to get over the line. There is only so many times the same group of players can keep stepping up when questions are asked. Thought Rochford got it wrong on the line as well. Taking Kevin Mc off in a tight game like that was bizarre. And we need Andy Moran on the pitch at the end of tight games. If he doesn't have the legs don't start him but not having him and McLoughlin on at the end was crazy, especially when trying to work a score."
Maybe the bigger error was not playing with the wind in the first half when their best scoring forwards were all on the field. It's very tight margins, sometimes no matter what call a manager makes it can be the wrong one.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 12/06/2017 11:18:04    1998351

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Replying To Soma:  "Maybe the bigger error was not playing with the wind in the first half when their best scoring forwards were all on the field. It's very tight margins, sometimes no matter what call a manager makes it can be the wrong one."
Listen it is not an easy job but when you lose and make questionable decisions people have a right to at least point out what might have went wrong. As long as it's reasonable!

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 12/06/2017 11:29:30    1998361

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Replying To Breffni39:  "Didn't see the game, but nothing would surprise me about a certain Mayo player. Sure I'm blue in the face trying to point it out on here. Butter wouldn't melt!"
Spot on. He gets all this sympathy and pats on his head, but he is as cynical a player as there is

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 12/06/2017 11:33:59    1998366

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Listen it is not an easy job but when you lose and make questionable decisions people have a right to at least point out what might have went wrong. As long as it's reasonable!"
Ah yeah I'm not disagreeing with you at all. But had Rochford started Moran on the bench and Galway won the toss then Moran could have been coming on with 20 minutes to go with Mayo defending a lead and needing ball carriers rather than Morans footballing brain.
If Roscommon beat Leitrim they will really fancy themselves in the Connacht final, yesterday's game was by no means a title decider.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 12/06/2017 11:46:19    1998376

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "Spot on. He gets all this sympathy and pats on his head, but he is as cynical a player as there is"
I see very little sympathy in general for Mayo footballers, just the opposite in fact, especially on sites like this. Nor do they, or their supporters, want or ask for sympathy.

As regards the game, Galway deserved to edge it, though a few little things here and there probably tilted the match in their favour slightly (Higgins' crazy sending-off, the goal chance missed with five minutes to go, Cilian hitting the crossbar in the first half, Paddy Durkin's bad wide from a good position). In truth, we wouldn't have deserved to win the game even had one or more of those things gone for us, though I think we may have sneaked it had we kept 15 men on the pitch. That's championship.

Rochford probably has some questions to answer over some of the selections and switches, especially over Boyle not starting. Hopefully we will have COB, AOS and Harrison back to bolster the ranks for the qualifiers.

To answer Lockjaw's question, I wouldn't be at all confident about being drawn away to Donegal, especially as we've never won up there. We have a decent record in Omagh in recent years, so perhaps that may be more manageable, but even then, it's always a dogfight against Tyrone.

Having said that, aren't the qualifiers a split draw now?

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 12/06/2017 11:53:18    1998383

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Yeah I don't get the complaints that Mayo are seen at saints and everyone feels sorry for us. It is a myth. Looking at the comments on social media the vast majority appear pleased to us beat.

Also an interesting stat...the Mayo forwards scored more from play than the Galway front six. Who said stats were misleading?

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 12/06/2017 12:25:05    1998400

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A couple of things COC effort that hit the bar he was going for a pt it was very poor execution, on a whole I thought his finishing was very poor he had at least 4 bad wides from poor execution and decision making.
The qualifiers draw is split but mayo will be in the same side as the losers from Donegal V Tyrone and Kildare V Meath.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 12/06/2017 12:31:07    1998405

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We're only talking about one player though. In my opinion his reputation does not reflect his actions.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 12/06/2017 12:35:10    1998409

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Yeah I don't get the complaints that Mayo are seen at saints and everyone feels sorry for us. It is a myth. Looking at the comments on social media the vast majority appear pleased to us beat.

Also an interesting stat...the Mayo forwards scored more from play than the Galway front six. Who said stats were misleading?"
Said the same yesterday. The much lauded Galway forward line wasn't great. Kicked some terrible wides and got some handy knock over points from questionable frees. But that goes against the narrative about the opposing forward lines yesterday. Not saying the Mayo forward line was alot better but I thought that they played in a controlled manner in the first half but being a man down caught up with Mayo in second half. Mayo found it that bit more difficult to support inside forwards when attacking. You won't see many saints consistently playing in Croke Park in August/September

Weary (None) - Posts: 249 - 12/06/2017 12:51:14    1998427

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "Spot on. He gets all this sympathy and pats on his head, but he is as cynical a player as there is"
Liam would you ever just leave it to Ciaran Whelan to do his job? Last year it was Keegan... For what it's worth I'd be happy if Connolly overturns his ban, and only because he received the equivalent of mob justice. If he got booked it'd be a different matter.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 12/06/2017 12:54:01    1998431

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Yeah I don't get the complaints that Mayo are seen at saints and everyone feels sorry for us. It is a myth. Looking at the comments on social media the vast majority appear pleased to us beat.

Also an interesting stat...the Mayo forwards scored more from play than the Galway front six. Who said stats were misleading?"
I believe it was the same in the games against the Dubs last year. Both sides scored the same from play over the two games and Dubs landed one more free. If you take the OGs out it... still who likes to deviate from commonly held perceptions. Forwards have to be able to defend and defenders score in the modern game.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 12/06/2017 13:07:32    1998442

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Replying To Breffni39:  "We're only talking about one player though. In my opinion his reputation does not reflect his actions."
Breff I don't know where he is seen as a butter wouldn't melt player. He has been involved in many incidents, pointed out on here and in the media. Not sure of anyone who doesn't think he has a bad side.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 12/06/2017 13:55:27    1998462

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Breff I don't know where he is seen as a butter wouldn't melt player. He has been involved in many incidents, pointed out on here and in the media. Not sure of anyone who doesn't think he has a bad side."
He hasn't served many suspensions, unlike the players that have that reputation.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 12/06/2017 14:21:20    1998481

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Yeah I don't get the complaints that Mayo are seen at saints and everyone feels sorry for us. It is a myth. Looking at the comments on social media the vast majority appear pleased to us beat.

Also an interesting stat...the Mayo forwards scored more from play than the Galway front six. Who said stats were misleading?"
I'm convinced that very few people commenting on a lot of the fan pages, social media threads etc. know whether a football is pumped or stuffed, and I'd be very surprised if many of the keyboard warriors were involved with their local clubs. A lot of the comments about inter-county footballers and hurlers- and particularly when it comes to our team, it has to be said- are absolutely venomous, and go far beyond simple sporting rivalry.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 12/06/2017 14:28:14    1998490

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Replying To Weary:  "Said the same yesterday. The much lauded Galway forward line wasn't great. Kicked some terrible wides and got some handy knock over points from questionable frees. But that goes against the narrative about the opposing forward lines yesterday. Not saying the Mayo forward line was alot better but I thought that they played in a controlled manner in the first half but being a man down caught up with Mayo in second half. Mayo found it that bit more difficult to support inside forwards when attacking. You won't see many saints consistently playing in Croke Park in August/September"
What questionable frees for soft scores, Galway Scorers as follows Army kicked three from the 45 and one free when Comer was fouled just outside the the 14 when shooting for goal and two from play that is (6). The two Sice frees which won the game were for a foul from behind on Conroy on the 21 after breaking through and Aidan 'O Shea trip on the right on the 21 which was the match winner that is (8),Bradshaw from play (9), Heaney from play (10), Walsh from play (11), Daly from play (12), Comer two from play (14), and Brannigan from play (15), What other ones? Would you point out the questionable ones? Get real and take off those bias glasses.

GDL (Galway) - Posts: 722 - 12/06/2017 14:32:00    1998495

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