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Well done Galway. Great contest. Some quality play from both sides and at other times both sides were very poor.
Referee was a shambles. He always is. He lost control of the game at times and not consistent at all. The black card was questionable but was a black if you follow the law. There's also the human side of the ref, so No surprises that the black arrived not long after the red. The red was fully deserved and silly but genuinely out of character for Higgins.
Watched the game on TV. Have to say the commentator and co commentator should just say what they see in front of them and be fair to both sides.
Galway have alot of work to do. Their lauded forward line is still unproven and was guilty of kicking some poor wides. They may not get as many handy frees from a different ref. Galway played against 14 men for 3/4 of the game and just about held on. They must improve to make any impact later in the season.
I'd question some of the calls from the Mayo sideline. But again I trust they know more about their panel than any outsiders.
Looking forward to more contests like this for rest of championship.

Weary (None) - Posts: 249 - 11/06/2017 20:31:09    1998088

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Great game, real edge of the seat stuff. You have to give it to Mayo, they were still well in the game playing most of it down to 14 men. Galways forwards in the first half looked the real deal but inexperience throughout the team made the last 15 minutes excruciating for them. MAyo's experience shone through in that period albeit for 2 wild shots from Evan Regan that spoilt their chances of getting the equalizer.
Anyone at the game care to comment on some of the off the ball action, Paddy Durcan seemed to be pushing his luck in the first half with 2 or 3 times where he blocked the run of a Galway forward. The Galway black card was extremely harsh, I don't blame Cillian O'Connor there, I don't think he tried to get Flynn black carded at all, I just think McQuillan simply made a very bad call.
Very unlike Keith Higgins to get sent off for that kind of carry on. A player of his experience shouldn't be reacting like that, really silly stuff. I did think a few Galway players sailed very close to the wind with a few challenges that could have resulted in cards of varying colours, but regardless, I hope people don't get bogged down in the disciplinary side of the game like a certain game last week
Galway Mayo matches aren't always of such dramatic quality, this for me was the best game of the championship so far. Some superb scores and a real intensity to the battle.
I don't think this hurts Mayo too badly, the qualifiers did them no harm last year. Galway need to learn from this one and build on it.

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 11/06/2017 20:33:04    1998090

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Replying To Vishred:  "Best game so far this year.
Well done Galway but dont write off Mayo this year."
We could be out next day out unless we improve, we rode our look last year

Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 11/06/2017 20:34:29    1998091

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Replying To Vishred:  "Best game so far this year.
Well done Galway but dont write off Mayo this year."
I've misspelled luck

Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 11/06/2017 20:35:21    1998092

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "Mayo forwards same as ever. They just don't have "it""
Not wrong galways were much better, we are too reliant on frees

Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 11/06/2017 20:36:20    1998093

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Replying To browncows:  "He make some bad mistakes every match and it is a sign of the times when he is considered an inter county standard ref."
Shocking black card O'connor runs into flynn and gets him black carded then typical O'connor a sneaky fist to the face on the side line he should have seen red.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 11/06/2017 20:47:29    1998102

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "If a dub or Tyrone player carried on like a certain mayo freetaker today this place would go into indignant meltdown desperate stuff"
Totally agree Liam. Talk about cynical play.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 11/06/2017 20:47:54    1998103

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "If a dub or Tyrone player carried on like a certain mayo freetaker today this place would go into indignant meltdown desperate stuff"
Surely referees will start watching out for him a bit more. His effort to try and make it look like Liam Silke wouldn't release the ball in an effort to get the referee to move the late free he missed forward was incredible.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 11/06/2017 20:49:13    1998105

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First thing's first Comer is angry beast of a player who any team in the country would love to have!

Secondly; good exciting game.

Lastly; I don't like Mayo's management moves today. Not sure why you would take off Andy Moran when momentum was building and when he just scored a point? They probably could have done with throwing Aidan O'Shea further up the pitch too when he came on. Don't know what use he is to a team that is trailing hanging around the backs passing the ball about; he needs to be making them strong runs through the Galway defence when their backs were tired.


Interested to see where Galway will be at come August...and Mayo for that matter. Mayo haven't fell apart exactly, they probably would have won this with 15 players. A red card is huge in football especially early in the game.Higgins was a big blow but that is the game of football! Where are they now? Much the same as this time last year really.No need to press the panic button just yet. If there was an extra few minutes there they would have won and with 14 men but IFs and buts are no good. They badly, so badly need a decent full forward they can bring on to deliver when Moran is getting tired etc or start someone who is at that same level. Don't know if they have that this year, seen little of the young forwards in the league. Although Boland is a decent new addition...Qualifiers is a blessing for them as there are a few players there out of fitness. I'd still expect them to arrive in Croker for 1/4s and maybe semis.

As for Galway, they have been steadily getting better but they really need a win in Croke Park this year to cement their place as a top team; winning div.2 and beating Mayo twice in a row is good progress but Croker is where it is at. I can't praise Comer enough, just his presence their in the forwards he always looked a danger and went in with some crazy strong shoulders. Presuming they win Connaught and beat Roscommon ( after they presumably beat Leitrim ) then they need a 1/4 final win. It's the next step for this bunch. After that who knows what might happen but they do need more composure in the last 15mins. Dublin would have put them to the sword with the way they approached the last 15 minutes.

GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 11/06/2017 20:51:08    1998107

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Keith Higgins did the dirt as did COC. Galway didn't stand back and let them have their way. Well done Galway. It was a great game.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 11/06/2017 20:55:01    1998112

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Replying To Spoddgy:  "I seen it Flynn looked at oconnor coming and stood there, he should have tried to get out of the way but he didn't. Its third man tackle if you cant see that then you don't know the rules!"
same as cooper blocking murphys run last sun, only murphy thought he was in an mma octagon, again shows the inconsistencies of rules interpretations from refs. And no i'm not condoning murphys act, see previous post on dc

bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 11/06/2017 21:36:13    1998141

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Replying To keithlemon:  "Great game, real edge of the seat stuff. You have to give it to Mayo, they were still well in the game playing most of it down to 14 men. Galways forwards in the first half looked the real deal but inexperience throughout the team made the last 15 minutes excruciating for them. MAyo's experience shone through in that period albeit for 2 wild shots from Evan Regan that spoilt their chances of getting the equalizer.
Anyone at the game care to comment on some of the off the ball action, Paddy Durcan seemed to be pushing his luck in the first half with 2 or 3 times where he blocked the run of a Galway forward. The Galway black card was extremely harsh, I don't blame Cillian O'Connor there, I don't think he tried to get Flynn black carded at all, I just think McQuillan simply made a very bad call.
Very unlike Keith Higgins to get sent off for that kind of carry on. A player of his experience shouldn't be reacting like that, really silly stuff. I did think a few Galway players sailed very close to the wind with a few challenges that could have resulted in cards of varying colours, but regardless, I hope people don't get bogged down in the disciplinary side of the game like a certain game last week
Galway Mayo matches aren't always of such dramatic quality, this for me was the best game of the championship so far. Some superb scores and a real intensity to the battle.
I don't think this hurts Mayo too badly, the qualifiers did them no harm last year. Galway need to learn from this one and build on it."
Nice to see a fair appraisal of the game. Wish more neutrals would see the game for what it was. Quality was up and down but it was always entertaining.

Weary (None) - Posts: 249 - 11/06/2017 21:51:06    1998151

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Replying To Spoddgy:  "He's blocking the man off the ball third man tackle black card offence"
A third man tackle is where a player protects his team-mate in possession by obstructing a would be tackler, penalty a free, no card, a black card is to be issued where a player "deliberately" trips or pulls a player to the ground or "deliberately" collides with an opposing player to impede his involvement in the game, In the incident today the only party that had a deliberate intent on collision was COC!

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 685 - 11/06/2017 22:42:15    1998181

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I am a sucker for punishment in that I absorb comment from various sites and like to get the view of different people and counties on games and players.

Wow one such social media site should be banned with the comments directed towards Cillian O Connor...words in the same sentence include rat and mother with one fella threatening to slap him.

We all have players from other counties we love to hate ON THE FIELD but leave the vile abuse out of it. Shocking stuff.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 11/06/2017 23:01:25    1998188

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Pat Spillane, Ciaran Whelan, Tomas O Se and Kevin Cassidy all stated that it was not a black card.
End of story.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 11/06/2017 23:28:46    1998194

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Nice to watch an exciting game. Sending off killed Mayo and Galway just about hung on.
O'Connor bought the black card for Galway, he's good at things like that and gets involved in argy bargy too often and will end up getting the line someday soon.
If Mayo keep their guard up and reach the quarterfinals they'll be back in familiar territory and will be dangerous, but once again as pointed out, lack of class forwards will probably deprive them of that elusive prize.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 11/06/2017 23:28:48    1998195

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Replying To GameOfTyrones:  "First thing's first Comer is angry beast of a player who any team in the country would love to have!

Secondly; good exciting game.

Lastly; I don't like Mayo's management moves today. Not sure why you would take off Andy Moran when momentum was building and when he just scored a point? They probably could have done with throwing Aidan O'Shea further up the pitch too when he came on. Don't know what use he is to a team that is trailing hanging around the backs passing the ball about; he needs to be making them strong runs through the Galway defence when their backs were tired.


Interested to see where Galway will be at come August...and Mayo for that matter. Mayo haven't fell apart exactly, they probably would have won this with 15 players. A red card is huge in football especially early in the game.Higgins was a big blow but that is the game of football! Where are they now? Much the same as this time last year really.No need to press the panic button just yet. If there was an extra few minutes there they would have won and with 14 men but IFs and buts are no good. They badly, so badly need a decent full forward they can bring on to deliver when Moran is getting tired etc or start someone who is at that same level. Don't know if they have that this year, seen little of the young forwards in the league. Although Boland is a decent new addition...Qualifiers is a blessing for them as there are a few players there out of fitness. I'd still expect them to arrive in Croker for 1/4s and maybe semis.

As for Galway, they have been steadily getting better but they really need a win in Croke Park this year to cement their place as a top team; winning div.2 and beating Mayo twice in a row is good progress but Croker is where it is at. I can't praise Comer enough, just his presence their in the forwards he always looked a danger and went in with some crazy strong shoulders. Presuming they win Connaught and beat Roscommon ( after they presumably beat Leitrim ) then they need a 1/4 final win. It's the next step for this bunch. After that who knows what might happen but they do need more composure in the last 15mins. Dublin would have put them to the sword with the way they approached the last 15 minutes."
A very fair and accurate post. I'm delighted we squeezed over the line, but we have a huge amount to work on and a lot still to learn. The lack of experience in eking out big matches was clear to see, as we got very nervy, but this one will help. The more often we're in situations like this can only help the team. We've certainly developed physically under Walsh, as we were getting blown away by Mayo in these contests not too long ago. There's a mental obstacle to overcome next, if we do make it to Croke Park.
Mayo could very well do the same as last year, and they will improve if they reach Croker. A lot will depend on their early qualifier draws. It's become a cliché at this stage, but their lack of threat upfront was apparent again, especially when they had a number of chances to level it at the end.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2046 - 11/06/2017 23:29:44    1998196

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Replying To Spoddgy:  "I seen it Flynn looked at oconnor coming and stood there, he should have tried to get out of the way but he didn't. Its third man tackle if you cant see that then you don't know the rules!"

Torcaill (Australia) - Posts: 204 - 12/06/2017 07:05:19    1998229

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Replying To Spoddgy:  "I seen it Flynn looked at oconnor coming and stood there, he should have tried to get out of the way but he didn't. Its third man tackle if you cant see that then you don't know the rules!"
You do not have to get out of the way. You are entitled to stand your ground but not step across to block a player. The Galway player stood his ground and it shouldn't have been a free, never mind a black card. (If anything it should have been a free against O'Connor for charging!!)

Torcaill (Australia) - Posts: 204 - 12/06/2017 07:08:47    1998230

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "Shocking black card O'connor runs into flynn and gets him black carded then typical O'connor a sneaky fist to the face on the side line he should have seen red."
I was at the game and over the far side, so I missed this!

Sneaky dig to the face on who? I'll have to watch it later....on that note, was it a free for Cummins at the end? If not he should have just booted the ball anywhere and killed off the game (SURELY the ref would have called time then??) but hopefully this Galway team is learning and they go and developing nicely en route. So many 1 point losses over the past few years and this a game that Mayo would have walked all over Galway a few years back - its great to see a 1point win!

I have to say it was an intense game and full blooded alright, the ole heart rate was through the roof for the last 10 minutes (most of which was added time BTW).

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 709 - 12/06/2017 08:57:53    1998253

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