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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes:  "We're quiet too. Surely that must count for something. If we're both quiet does it mean it's going to be a draw?"
Did i not see Aidan O Shea in the news last week? Did i not read Cillian O Connor in every tabloid last week? Did ye not play Sligo already?

Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 06/06/2017 12:54:05    1995538

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An interesting fixture for sure and good to see it has piqued the neutral's interest again after a few years of total Mayo dominance. Mayo have been the best team in Connacht this decade. Their levels of physicality have been way superior over the last few years, not to mention the fact that they've had better footballers. I just think that the tide might be turning a bit. Galway look to have got their act together and are now training and preparing like a top team should. They also have some very good footballers coming through. It's good for Gaelic football as a whole that the likes of Galway, Meath and Kildare look to be on the rise.

However, I get the feeling that this may last chance saloon for this current Mayo crop and they'll be a very hard nut for any team to crack. Galway's time may be coming but in terms of Connacht 2017 I think Mayo will be top dog. A Mayo win by about 3 or 4 points I think.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9155 - 06/06/2017 13:23:17    1995559

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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes:  "We're quiet too. Surely that must count for something. If we're both quiet does it mean it's going to be a draw?"
Mayo are never quiet.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 06/06/2017 13:34:27    1995571

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Replying To Belclare1:  "Did i not see Aidan O Shea in the news last week? Did i not read Cillian O Connor in every tabloid last week? Did ye not play Sligo already?"
Should Mayo have played Sligo behind closed doors? I think you know the context here. I am not going over the whole AOS story again because it has been done to death.

As for Cillian....those extracts were taken from the "Media" day which Galway would also have sent reps too. I except a Galway player or two, to be rolled out this week.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 06/06/2017 15:29:35    1995687

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "An interesting fixture for sure and good to see it has piqued the neutral's interest again after a few years of total Mayo dominance. Mayo have been the best team in Connacht this decade. Their levels of physicality have been way superior over the last few years, not to mention the fact that they've had better footballers. I just think that the tide might be turning a bit. Galway look to have got their act together and are now training and preparing like a top team should. They also have some very good footballers coming through. It's good for Gaelic football as a whole that the likes of Galway, Meath and Kildare look to be on the rise.

However, I get the feeling that this may last chance saloon for this current Mayo crop and they'll be a very hard nut for any team to crack. Galway's time may be coming but in terms of Connacht 2017 I think Mayo will be top dog. A Mayo win by about 3 or 4 points I think."
I'd have to agree with you on all the above

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 709 - 06/06/2017 16:04:33    1995719

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Should Mayo have played Sligo behind closed doors? I think you know the context here. I am not going over the whole AOS story again because it has been done to death.

As for Cillian....those extracts were taken from the "Media" day which Galway would also have sent reps too. I except a Galway player or two, to be rolled out this week."
Tetchy enough - relax Yew Tree!

See ye Sunday...

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 709 - 06/06/2017 16:23:02    1995734

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Should Mayo have played Sligo behind closed doors? I think you know the context here. I am not going over the whole AOS story again because it has been done to death.

As for Cillian....those extracts were taken from the "Media" day which Galway would also have sent reps too. I except a Galway player or two, to be rolled out this week."
No it was a Eir gig in Dublin he was at.. I'm sure we will see more from him this week...

Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 06/06/2017 16:32:27    1995745

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Replying To Condorman:  "Mayo are never quiet."
No new songs out. Any flags out are leftovers from last year. A distinct lack of Mayo for Sam 2017 number plates. Sure a couple of the lads are trying to make a few shillings for themselves but that's to be expected as no one will want to talk to them after next week. We haven't even, for the most part, taken the opportunity to kick your Diarmuid when he's down. All I'm hearing is how much Galway are improved and that we'll be lucky to keep it kicked out to them. You could hear a pin drop down here.

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 06/06/2017 16:40:12    1995755

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On a windy day in Salthill predictions can be blown away but I can't see Galway beating Mayo. Hope it is a good game.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 06/06/2017 16:59:09    1995780

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I don't get this last chance saloon thing that's being said about Mayo this year, they have been consistently at the later stages of the All Ireland series now for a lot of years, I don't know the age profile of the panel but they also have good U21's coming through anyway so I can't see how they will decline that much from a few retirements, the younger players might even improve them.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2756 - 06/06/2017 17:31:26    1995797

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I don't get this last chance saloon thing that's being said about Mayo this year, they have been consistently at the later stages of the All Ireland series now for a lot of years, I don't know the age profile of the panel but they also have good U21's coming through anyway so I can't see how they will decline that much from a few retirements, the younger players might even improve them."
Perception are not often not valid. Mayo have been poor at underage (2013 (minor) and 2016 (u-21) wins aside) for a few seasons so people assume Mayo are going to fall off a cliff.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 06/06/2017 17:59:22    1995827

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "An interesting fixture for sure and good to see it has piqued the neutral's interest again after a few years of total Mayo dominance. Mayo have been the best team in Connacht this decade. Their levels of physicality have been way superior over the last few years, not to mention the fact that they've had better footballers. I just think that the tide might be turning a bit. Galway look to have got their act together and are now training and preparing like a top team should. They also have some very good footballers coming through. It's good for Gaelic football as a whole that the likes of Galway, Meath and Kildare look to be on the rise.

However, I get the feeling that this may last chance saloon for this current Mayo crop and they'll be a very hard nut for any team to crack. Galway's time may be coming but in terms of Connacht 2017 I think Mayo will be top dog. A Mayo win by about 3 or 4 points I think."
Spot on.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 07/06/2017 05:06:09    1996158

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I don't get this last chance saloon thing that's being said about Mayo this year, they have been consistently at the later stages of the All Ireland series now for a lot of years, I don't know the age profile of the panel but they also have good U21's coming through anyway so I can't see how they will decline that much from a few retirements, the younger players might even improve them."
Aye, I personally think it's horse trollop by pundits and the media...If you have a look at the Dublin squad many of their key players are in or around 30 and some well over it. No last chance saloon stuff there.Mayo have a few new under 21's that have already come through. Not as many as they would probably like, but I'd give them time to develop.

They have the likes of Diarmaid O'Connor who we all know about at this stage...Coen... and Loftus who I think was back from some sort of Injury this year but he hasn't been used that much. I could be wrong in saying this but I'm fairly sure Mayo have only one new lad from that u-21 crop in this years panel in the form of that wee Boland lad. Who actually looks the part IMO, I think he might have a good season ahead of him.

I don't think for a second it's last chance saloon, even if they were knocked out before the semi/final. Like Donegal, I believe one or two years will do them the world of good in terms of development with the new lads who are just finding their way in the senior game and I'd expect three of four more faces to be showing up on the panel in the coming seasons.

Now, on the other hand, the media probably are right about the marque forward crap. They really could do with with new youth up there and with a bit of strength. I honestly thought that Irwin lad might feature for them this season as he was impressive in the U-21s but he's not on the panel I don't think. They will struggle to get another Andy Moran. Cillian O ' COnnor will be around for a few years yet but they badly need a young Moran up there winning ball.

GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 07/06/2017 09:17:19    1996201

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Replying To GameOfTyrones:  "Aye, I personally think it's horse trollop by pundits and the media...If you have a look at the Dublin squad many of their key players are in or around 30 and some well over it. No last chance saloon stuff there.Mayo have a few new under 21's that have already come through. Not as many as they would probably like, but I'd give them time to develop.

They have the likes of Diarmaid O'Connor who we all know about at this stage...Coen... and Loftus who I think was back from some sort of Injury this year but he hasn't been used that much. I could be wrong in saying this but I'm fairly sure Mayo have only one new lad from that u-21 crop in this years panel in the form of that wee Boland lad. Who actually looks the part IMO, I think he might have a good season ahead of him.

I don't think for a second it's last chance saloon, even if they were knocked out before the semi/final. Like Donegal, I believe one or two years will do them the world of good in terms of development with the new lads who are just finding their way in the senior game and I'd expect three of four more faces to be showing up on the panel in the coming seasons.

Now, on the other hand, the media probably are right about the marque forward crap. They really could do with with new youth up there and with a bit of strength. I honestly thought that Irwin lad might feature for them this season as he was impressive in the U-21s but he's not on the panel I don't think. They will struggle to get another Andy Moran. Cillian O ' COnnor will be around for a few years yet but they badly need a young Moran up there winning ball."
Well thought out post and one I can't really argue with. What worries me is not the age profile but the amount of training most of these lads have done over the past few years with very little in the way of breaks. I don't know how long they can go on before the minds and bodies betray them. Another problem I see, and Yew already referred to it, is the lack of underage talent coming through. I have long been critical of the underage coaching structure within the county and I think the team that won the minor and U21 titles did so in spite of, rather than as a result of, said structure. I have seen our minors twice over the last few years being absolutely destroyed by reasonable Galway teams. A review of the underage coaching structure is underway within the county and there seem to be moves afoot to involve young ex county players in the set up, which in my opinion is a decade too late. Football has evolved beyond recognition since the catch and kick era and unfortunately I don't feel our coaching system has evolved at the same pace. I would hope that fairly radical proposals will emerge and that they will be acted on, but from experience I won't be holding my breath. As for young Irwin, I had great hopes myself that he would continue his progress and make it into the senior setup. A strong lad with an eye for goal and also a left footed free taker, all of which are badly needed. Unfortunately I think he is, as they say, pursuing other interests at the moment and is no longer part of the squad. On the up side he's young and still playing club football so maybe down the line.....

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 07/06/2017 15:02:01    1996507

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If Mayo play to their ability then I don't think Galway have the ability to beat them. Up until last year I don't think Mayo had to even reach their peak to beat Galway but last year's game in Castlebar proved that Galway have improved to the extent that nothing but their top game will do for Mayo against their neighbours from now on.

There shouldn't be much between by the end but I reckon Mayo will have too much power for Galway in the end. A pity that the game is clashing with the Ireland game at 5pm too as I was really looking forward to it. Hopefully get the first half in anyways.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 07/06/2017 15:20:33    1996525

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The 15 named for each team will be very interesting here, both sides have a number of big decisions to make that could prove crucial. Hoping for a great game but sadly we rarely get them at Pearse Stadium due to the wind.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 08/06/2017 11:23:33    1996841

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Mayo team named: David Clarke (Ballina Stephenites); Chris Barrett (Belmullet), Ger Cafferkey (Ballina Stephenites), Keith Higgins (Ballyhaunis); Colm Boyle (Davitts), Lee Keegan (Westport), Paddy Durcan (Castlebar Mitchels); Seamus O'Shea (Breaffy), Tom Parsons (Charlestown Sarsfields); Fergal Boland (Aghamore), Diarmuid O'Connor (Ballintubber), Jason Doherty (Burrishoole); Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore), Cillian O'Connor (Ballintubber), Andy Moran (Ballaghaderreen).

Rocky.Road (Galway) - Posts: 374 - 08/06/2017 14:36:29    1996955

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yes I expect Mayo to have too much power. Galway need to keep high balls away from Clarke as he is the #1 keeper in the country. Mayo should pull away in final quarter by 3 or 4 though.

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1197 - 08/06/2017 18:41:47    1997061

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I think that Ger Cafferkey isn't up to it if Galway can put a good full forward against him they should go alright but Mayo just too good really and why is (Westport) beside keegans name he's clearly a cavan man should be playing Sunday for us....

Cavanlife (Cavan) - Posts: 54 - 08/06/2017 19:26:17    1997076

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I'd be very surprised if Aidan O'Shea is not in from the start. It looks like it will be wet and windy Sunday, they are the conditions he can do real damage in.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 08/06/2017 20:09:48    1997083

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