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"Head & shoulders above any team at this grade"? They bet Aran by a point, scored in the last minute of extra time of a replay. Get a grip. If they didn't have Gary Kelly, they'd be closer to relegation. Would be very surprised if this was the end of the story anyway. Surely Williamstown will appeal this decision? The Turlough case went from Galway to Connacht, back to Galway and to the DRA, not including the step they missed out on by going to Croke Park first. GalwayFancyDans (Galway) - Posts: 75 - 24/10/2017 17:59:17 2057632 Link 1 |
I would be interested if it came out how Aran heard this player was ineligible. Even though the fault lies with the club in New York if Williamstown were aware there should be no Sympathy. WunderBar (Galway) - Posts: 290 - 24/10/2017 18:04:55 2057635 Link 0 |
I can see both sides of the Aran/Williamstown argument. On one side if rules have been broken then I'm in favor of Arans right to appeal, however looking at what we know of the circumstances it's not like Williamstown tried to play Pàdraig Joyce under somebody else's name. I believe Aran were beaten fairly on the day and the introduction of the player in question had a negligible effect on the game. That being said, rules are rules and all that. If it were the other way around I'm sure Williamstown would object too. For two small rural teams a county final is a huge deal. It will be an absolute shame if Williamstown are not allowed to contest the final having earned their right ( fairly in my opinion) to play there. Also if Aran get back in then there will be a slight mark against it because of this objection and all the mess that goes with it. I've already asked people here if Aran can contest the final as its already been said here that they can't even if their objection is upheld? Would love somebody to shed light on this. If this is in fact the case and Aran were aware of this then I think it does put a bit of a mark against them in so far as the objection would simply be to disqualify Williamstown and not to get back in themselves. Something doesn't sound right about this though and I would love to hear from somebody in the know what the situation is? diggerhitachi (Galway) - Posts: 19 - 24/10/2017 18:45:05 2057651 Link 0 |
Garry Kelly will kick points until the cows come home against any team in the country. He has been unlucky with the senior team but has given fantastic performances in the Sigurdson & club level for years and if you deny that then you are living in cuckoo land.
Scantermediate (Galway) - Posts: 98 - 24/10/2017 18:47:17 2057652 Link 0 |
Irrepective of how this concludes that is a silly comment. The Dublin poster made a point and while you may not agree it is very churlish to respond in the way you did. For the record I hope Williamstown do play in the final although I think both teams contributed brillantly this season to the intermediate championship.
kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1950 - 24/10/2017 19:22:51 2057659 Link 1 |
Will Galway have a repsetive in the intermediate club competition on Nov 5 th if final not played ? Can county board nominate a club 2 go forward ? Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 856 - 24/10/2017 19:45:40 2057667 Link 0 |
rules are rules and all that but for me Aran come out of this looking very petty. They probably couldnt care in the slightest about player eligibility etc but are just exploiting a loophole. If they win there'll be an astersisk beside this success imo. 3Dhurling (Laois) - Posts: 24 - 24/10/2017 19:48:51 2057669 Link 1 |
Incorrect. I've been involved in Galway GAA for over forty years & I can safely say that my point is on the money. Aran's appeal is dishonourable against Williamstown. That's not an opinion that's a fact. A Dub then throwing their hat into the ring with a ridiculous opinion obviously is going to incur a response like that. If not from me then from somebody else. Don't know why you're getting on a moral high-horse rather than focusing on the issue at hand. Are you an Aran Island-sympathiser? Scantermediate (Galway) - Posts: 98 - 24/10/2017 21:14:45 2057702 Link 0 |
Can't nominate a team for Connaught if your final hasn't being played, you forfeit the game.. Looking that way now WolfeTone (Galway) - Posts: 123 - 24/10/2017 21:56:26 2057712 Link 0 |
gary kelly is hardly better than shane walsh and clonbern had more back up than williamstown have... whether it is aran or willies they will be comprehensively beaten by cg squares_edge (Galway) - Posts: 680 - 24/10/2017 22:09:43 2057717 Link 0 |
Rather than playing the man, play the ball and tell me what was so ridiculous about my point ... and while you're at it you might explain why you only have respect for people's opinions based on where they're from ... actually, on second thoughts, don't bother ... based on your apparent habit of lashing out at anyone who dares to offer a different opinion to your own, I don't think us engaging in a heated exchange would do either of us any good. Thankfully your fellow county men's responses are far more illustrative of the generosity and respect that I encounter when meeting Galway people either on- or off-line.
DubSanIarthar (Dublin) - Posts: 19 - 24/10/2017 22:16:58 2057720 Link 1 |
"Aran's appeal is dishonourable against Williamstown. That's not an opinion that's a fact." Eh, that is an opinion and not a fact. A lad asking for another player to be booked is dishonourable in my opinion, but that's also not a fact I'm afraid. The truth is Aran aren't the first club to appeal against an ineligible player having been used and they won't be the last. The Mountbellew-Micheal Breathnach saga isn't that long ago and there have been plenty more since in both football and hurling unfortunately. Most clubs would do it, given what's at stake. While most people say this player didn't make a difference, the game was decided by a single point after extra time, after a replay, so we'll never know. The margins were so fine. It's an awful shame, and very harsh on the lads from Williamstown who've put so much in all year. The rules do need to be revised to avoid this being such a common occurrence. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2066 - 24/10/2017 23:45:21 2057735 Link 0 |
Heard the Sligo Intermediate team (St. Johns) are getting a bye in the Connacht Semi Final due to this mess in the champoinship, Its a pity as I believe Claregalway if won final could have gone far in the connacht and possibly all Ireland series. County board should be resolving these quicker and stamping their authority. The Dog on the street knows Aran are getting back in but the county board will not release a statement to confirm it. Now that they don't have to resolve by next week I would imagine it could take a few weeks to fully resolve. Aran will be back in to FInal but then Williamstown will launch an appeal to that. gaaman11 (Galway) - Posts: 107 - 25/10/2017 08:01:04 2057751 Link 0 |
Look lads , if Williamstown get thrown out , it would be like getting a year long driving ban after being caught doing 60km in a 50km zone, a slight infringement of the rules does not warrant the ultimate sanction..... results on the pitch should stand. However, given the experience of Turloughmore , I doubt common sense will be applied.
millertime (Galway) - Posts: 36 - 25/10/2017 08:57:00 2057765 Link 0 |
That's a poor analogy, as you're suggesting that something other than what's in the rule nook has been applied. There are written penalties for both offences. In the case of fielding an ineligible player, the suspension is forfeit of the game, which is what would be applied. As it's a county semi final, it would mean a championship exit. Whether the rule is unfair is a different matter and one I'd argue needs to be reviewed. However, the county board can't pick and choose when they decide to apply the rules, as otherwise there would be chaos. They'd set a precedent that all clubs could then take advantage of. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2066 - 25/10/2017 10:11:31 2057779 Link 1 |
I agree with the bulk of your post but would take issue with the following "The rules do need to be revised to avoid this being such a common occurrence" handpassking (Galway) - Posts: 433 - 25/10/2017 11:26:45 2057795 Link 1 |
Its a pity that investigations and appeals get dragged out and can last up to months holding up other matches in the tournament. The investigations should be thorough and final. If they had a player that played illegally and have the relevant information such as referees reports and team sheets to support this as the regulations require then the team should be thrown out. If they don't have the prescribed information to show there is an illegal player and are using information which is not definitive then throw out the appeal. movealong (Sligo) - Posts: 1 - 25/10/2017 11:30:15 2057799 Link 0 |
Is this just Intermediate or were the rules changed? I think I recall Corofin being put forward in senior in the 90s as winners of the previous championship due to a delay to the final that year. Or would this ultimately lead to another objection / appeal further down the line? VictorMeldrew (Galway) - Posts: 93 - 25/10/2017 11:58:58 2057817 Link 0 |
So the appeal is honourable is what you're saying. The Willies deserve their place in the final and never in my 47 years have I seen as many people defending something so wrong. It was the same with the Turlough situation. We're here to talk about the problem at hand not win arguments. The entire intermediate is gone arse-ways as a consequence of this appeal. Galway mightn't have a representative in the Connacht because of this pettiness from the Islanders. Which is a pity because I believe the Willies could go all the way this year. Most of their players are on the pig's back at intermediate level. We need a couple of them on the senior panel if we'll ever challenge for the All Ireland, as the steel comes from the North East of Galway who have grown up with the Rossies. We're Galway fans here. Let's not be divided over this ridiculous action. #GaillimhAbu Scantermediate (Galway) - Posts: 98 - 25/10/2017 13:19:04 2057850 Link 0 |
That's not what I said. I said it wasn't a fact that it was dishonourable, just opinion. That doesn't make it honourable or otherwise. Some people will think it was dishonourable, others won't. There's no 'fact' on this. Form my point of view, I wouldn't have appealed and would have accepted the result. That's just my take on it though. It doesn't mean Aran were dishonourable in what they did. Were Mountbellew dishonourable when they appealed against a Micheal Breathnach's player a few years ago? I'm completely with you on the need for unity in the county. We're all Galway supporters and everyone wants to see the county team progress. However, the county board have to apply the rules in place. They can't bend the rules on some issues, or every club would take advantage of it. We'd see how 'honourable' all clubs are then. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2066 - 25/10/2017 15:39:41 2057913 Link 0 |