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Replying To rossam:  "After roscommon gaels shock 25pt defeat to brigids I think there's a massive incentive for Western gaels to meet them in the final. Mcinerney and co couldn't handle the creggs the last time out and can't see it any different this time. Western gaels by 3. Boyle to beat roscommon gaels."
Brigids by 7 or 8.

rossie1996 (Roscommon) - Posts: 143 - 29/09/2017 16:20:49    2051743

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Ros Gaels and brigids to win by about 3 pts each

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1764 - 29/09/2017 18:25:48    2051776

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Replying To rossam:  "After roscommon gaels shock 25pt defeat to brigids I think there's a massive incentive for Western gaels to meet them in the final. Mcinerney and co couldn't handle the creggs the last time out and can't see it any different this time. Western gaels by 3. Boyle to beat roscommon gaels."
Wasn't much of a shock to the Gaels lads to be fair. The bookies took a hit on that result by all accounts

cannyfixit (Roscommon) - Posts: 220 - 30/09/2017 07:49:18    2051856

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Western gaels to win by 2
Roscommon gaels to win by 4

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1059 - 30/09/2017 12:21:34    2051906

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A Roscommon Gaels v St Brigids senior final it is! the two favourites not toppleed today. 1st game was decent with the strong wind and Gaels level at half time you just knew they wouldn't blow their chance of reaching the final. David O Gara was behind everything good for them a big leader in their side. Boyle best players were well marked and while Boyle will be disappointed they can still be pleased with reaching another semi final against the odds.

2nd game few if any stand out players on show in what was a poor contest, it was almost like both didn't want to win. Goals were key Brigids scored 2 from 4 chances created while Western Gaels created a great goal chance with a minute to go only for Shane Mannion to pull off a fine save and with it ended any chance the underdogs had of winning today.The two best teams in Roscommon this year have reach the final and hopefully its a good competitive final and winner gives a good account of themselves in Connacht.

I didn't see the intermediate semi but a very impressive looking win for Glaveys and it highlights the difference between a group game and knock out championship game.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3762 - 01/10/2017 19:04:30    2052158

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Have the club championship produced any new County prospects for Kevin McStay.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2171 - 01/10/2017 20:10:53    2052187

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I don't think Kevin will have not seen anything he didn't already know but the best player by a stretch this weekend was david OGara unbelievable second half would love to see him still around the county set up

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 760 - 02/10/2017 14:35:45    2052418

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Was in Hyde Park yesterday Roscommon Gaels Boyle was good game in the first half Cian Connolly gave exhibition of kicking frees off ground against the wind which is a dying art of the game. Boyle scored some fantastic points from play by McKeon and Donie Smith. 2nd half with the wind at their back Roscommon Gaels were controlled and measured. Boyle who had been creating goal chances by the bucket load throughout the championship couldn't break down a well organized Gaels defense. John McManus,James McDermott,Scott Oates,Paul Gleeson all had good games but the obvious stand out was David O Gara. With his energy,work rate and ability to lead he is ideal player for Kevin McStay plans next year but it remains to see if the player himself will give the commitment or have the time to give it to his county again.

Brigids v Western Gaels was a poor advert for senior championship football in this county both are so much better than what they showed yesterday as was seen in their last encounter in Frenchpark. Brian Stacks goal was probably the games turning point he finished it like player of 10 years experience and when he was moved into midfield he played a huge role in winning that game for Brigids. I thought the Brigids full back line was their strongest line McInerney and Peter Domican were outstanding they held their markers Cathal and Finbarr Cregg scoreless from play and Western Gaels were never going to win when they two main forwards struggled for scores in open play.

Hard to believe though that 2-6 was enough for Brigids to win considering Clann na nGael in the Quarter final scored 2-15 and still lost by a bit to spare to Western Gaels. Brigids will know that performance will not be good enough to win the final. They went 20mins of the 1st half without scoring at all and in a game that lasted 64mins their last score came in 48 minute. Cathal McHugh was their stand out forward winning,scoring,creating frees and points from play. Senan Kilbride scored a tap in goal in the 1st minute he'll have better games especially on his free taking. They will need more out of Kelly,Dolan in the half forward line also.

The final will be intriguing contest. What happened in the last group game should be totally ignored when forming a view on how this final will go IMO it was freak result and didn't show a true reflection of where both clubs stand but this final certainly will show all the strengths and flaws of both.

ispeakwisdom (Roscommon) - Posts: 2487 - 02/10/2017 18:54:32    2052527

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David o gara was good but is he going to be the player that lights up the championship or leauge for roscommon next year??No player stood out for me yesterday as a potential county player..number 7 for western gaels was good but is only a young lad..mcstay might not be in a rush to be asking higgins and the creggs back after yesterday..mark Healy is one player I'd like to see back

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1059 - 02/10/2017 20:22:05    2052552

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Replying To dave1988:  "David o gara was good but is he going to be the player that lights up the championship or leauge for roscommon next year??No player stood out for me yesterday as a potential county player..number 7 for western gaels was good but is only a young lad..mcstay might not be in a rush to be asking higgins and the creggs back after yesterday..mark Healy is one player I'd like to see back"
That's disappointing.I would agree that it's unlikely that David O'Gara, a minor from 11 years ago, is going to come in and star in the senior team.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2171 - 04/10/2017 14:26:07    2053018

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Replying To endgame:  "That's disappointing.I would agree that it's unlikely that David O'Gara, a minor from 11 years ago, is going to come in and star in the senior team."
Conor Devanney and Fintan Cregg returned and both starred. David O Gara would be a more useful addition to the panel than some that were warming the bench this year. Lack of strength in depth was a big problem area and that won't be the case in 2018 if McStay has the two Cregg brothers,3 Dalys,P Domican,D Shine,Keenan,O Gara etc on the panel.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3353 - 04/10/2017 16:01:25    2053054

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Conor Devanney and Fintan Cregg returned and both starred. David O Gara would be a more useful addition to the panel than some that were warming the bench this year. Lack of strength in depth was a big problem area and that won't be the case in 2018 if McStay has the two Cregg brothers,3 Dalys,P Domican,D Shine,Keenan,O Gara etc on the panel."
Was O Gara not asked last year to come back? C Cregg didn't score last week, Dominican has missed to much inter county football and Donnie hasn't the legs for inter county football, we won a Connacht Championship with lads mostly under 24 with no S&C. Surely these lads are the future with a consistent S&C programme

golfcar (Roscommon) - Posts: 60 - 04/10/2017 20:42:11    2053137

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Replying To golfcar:  "Was O Gara not asked last year to come back? C Cregg didn't score last week, Dominican has missed to much inter county football and Donnie hasn't the legs for inter county football, we won a Connacht Championship with lads mostly under 24 with no S&C. Surely these lads are the future with a consistent S&C programme"
Don't think O Gara was asked because as he had known work commitments. Cathal Cregg didn't score because he was well marshaled by a strong Brigids full back line but he won plenty of frees for his brother to convert, he scored 3-2 against Clann in the previous game . He can also play a defensive role if needed. Peter Domican is part of that strong Brigids full back line and with this Roscommon management having strong connections to Brigids it shouldn't come as any surprise if Domican is called up for the FBD to see can how he fares.

Donie Shine was never blessed with pace his legs for inter county football are hardly gone at 28 either. He will be the top scoring forward in the club championship by some distance and IMO would be decent option to have on the panel and better full forward option than some players played there this year e.g Cathal Compton.Tom Corcoran who aren't suited to that role.

No S&C? not at the level of Mayo you mean? Most if not all county panels moving forward needs a mix of youth and experience. We need more experience on our panel McHale himself said that after winning Connacht.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3762 - 04/10/2017 22:26:21    2053163

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Don't think O Gara was asked because as he had known work commitments. Cathal Cregg didn't score because he was well marshaled by a strong Brigids full back line but he won plenty of frees for his brother to convert, he scored 3-2 against Clann in the previous game . He can also play a defensive role if needed. Peter Domican is part of that strong Brigids full back line and with this Roscommon management having strong connections to Brigids it shouldn't come as any surprise if Domican is called up for the FBD to see can how he fares.

Donie Shine was never blessed with pace his legs for inter county football are hardly gone at 28 either. He will be the top scoring forward in the club championship by some distance and IMO would be decent option to have on the panel and better full forward option than some players played there this year e.g Cathal Compton.Tom Corcoran who aren't suited to that role.

No S&C? not at the level of Mayo you mean? Most if not all county panels moving forward needs a mix of youth and experience. We need more experience on our panel McHale himself said that after winning Connacht."
Would agree to a extent, it was very poor tactics putting Corcoran or Compton in there,but Shine is hardly a man who could win a high ball. Lack of experience didn't make make much difference against Galway or Mayo in first game and we would have beaten them in the replay only for a lack of S and C. Healy maybe worth bringing in again at midfield

golfcar (Roscommon) - Posts: 60 - 06/10/2017 08:29:51    2053479

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Replying To golfcar:  "Would agree to a extent, it was very poor tactics putting Corcoran or Compton in there,but Shine is hardly a man who could win a high ball. Lack of experience didn't make make much difference against Galway or Mayo in first game and we would have beaten them in the replay only for a lack of S and C. Healy maybe worth bringing in again at midfield"
Lack of experience was one of main things that cost us the first day against Mayo and you only get one chance to beat experienced side like that. Galway are almost as inexperienced as ourselves and that was seen against Kerry.

Having watched loads of club action this year Donie Shine remains one of finest fielders of the ball in Roscommon but unfortunately for him at Clann he doesn't have forwards such as the Murtaghs,Smith to lay the ball off too when fielded. Mark Healy isn't an option he has travel plans.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3762 - 06/10/2017 15:46:34    2053620

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Lack of experience was one of main things that cost us the first day against Mayo and you only get one chance to beat experienced side like that. Galway are almost as inexperienced as ourselves and that was seen against Kerry.

Having watched loads of club action this year Donie Shine remains one of finest fielders of the ball in Roscommon but unfortunately for him at Clann he doesn't have forwards such as the Murtaghs,Smith to lay the ball off too when fielded. Mark Healy isn't an option he has travel plans."
I agree shine is an extremely good footballer but if he wants to play county football he needs to get himself into shape..he is the same size as the likes of Murphy and oshea but miles off the strength and conditioning of them guys..i remember mcstay saying that shine is a big lad and needs to go get himself in shape if he wants to play county football and I agree with him

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1059 - 07/10/2017 13:09:01    2053719

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Replying To dave1988:  "I agree shine is an extremely good footballer but if he wants to play county football he needs to get himself into shape..he is the same size as the likes of Murphy and oshea but miles off the strength and conditioning of them guys..i remember mcstay saying that shine is a big lad and needs to go get himself in shape if he wants to play county football and I agree with him"
Think McStay might have been talking about Cathal Shine rather than Donie Shine there.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2171 - 07/10/2017 13:52:06    2053728

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Replying To endgame:  "Think McStay might have been talking about Cathal Shine rather than Donie Shine there."
No 100% he was talking about donie

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1059 - 07/10/2017 23:01:41    2053803

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Replying To dave1988:  "No 100% he was talking about donie"
think that bird may have flown boys

moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1080 - 08/10/2017 19:49:15    2053908

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Apart from anything else, Donie might be happy enough the way things are, his wife gave birth recently and maybe he's enjoying his club football and family life.

I'd still have him back in the panel in the morning. Are there 30 better players around the county than him? No.

decky (Roscommon) - Posts: 384 - 09/10/2017 14:49:52    2054140

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