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Galway v Tipp - The game so far....

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Tipp forwards look very ordinary without Seamus Callinan. The McGraths feed off him.

Galway were excellent...great display. Tipp were out hustled and outhurled.


Next up is Cork in championship...Tipp will want Callinan back

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 23/04/2017 21:19:45    1981987

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Replying To neverright:  "Where did that performance by Galway come out of. Fantastic"
It wasn't a fantastic display by Galway. It was a competent performance -- no more than that. They beat what was in front of them today, which wasn't much. (I'm sure every Tipp person would agree with me on that).

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1904 - 23/04/2017 21:23:31    1981990

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Galway fitness level are where Tipperary were last year.backs beating the man to ball ,midfield lads with big engine rooms and pacy forwards well able to beat their man. Lukasz is a big loss to Tipp and Galways gain.
Can't remember last time I saw a Tipp team being beat all over the field. Apart from the 2012 all Ireland semi which I wouldn't put on the same level. Galway could be defending league and all Ireland champions from Div 1B dat would be mad!! Again fair play to Galway and congratulations on a complete victory. No complaints from Tipperary.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 23/04/2017 21:36:18    1981995

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Replying To Rockies:  "Tipp forwards look very ordinary without Seamus Callinan. The McGraths feed off him.

Galway were excellent...great display. Tipp were out hustled and outhurled.


Next up is Cork in championship...Tipp will want Callinan back"
Good point, Mcgraths very good but lack pace so when Callahan is playing he takes a lot of pressure off the Mcgraths and frees them up.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 23/04/2017 22:23:00    1982008

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Great win Galway, onwards and upwards. Gaillimh abu.

sixtyfive (Galway) - Posts: 32 - 23/04/2017 22:27:23    1982010

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "It wasn't a fantastic display by Galway. It was a competent performance -- no more than that. They beat what was in front of them today, which wasn't much. (I'm sure every Tipp person would agree with me on that)."
We were terrible but still to score 3 - 21 and leave another 3 - 5 or more behind shows how much Galway created. I'm surprised Whelan and Flynn weren't switched sooner cos Flynn was going to take advantage of Cahill's off day quicker than Whelan.

With regards training hard before the game and all that sort of us. One this is for sure, Tipp turned up today to win that match. There is no way we wouldn't want to win a national title especially after a nine year gap. It would have been great, had we moved to 20 titles today.

We just have to take it on the chin like men and move.

I think the Galway backs should take more credit for the win than their forwards. To hold that attack to 0 - 14 is some going by that backline.

What is abundantly clear to me after today is how important Callanan is to us. Gleeson might be HOTY but there is no way I'd swap him for Seamie. Look at the influence Canning had today. With maybe the exception of Kilkenny who have two, most teams have only one absolute star player like Canning, Gleeson, TJ, Hogan, Callanan etc. We need to mind Callanan and have him ready for when knock out Hurling starts.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 23/04/2017 22:31:36    1982014

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "It wasn't a fantastic display by Galway. It was a competent performance -- no more than that. They beat what was in front of them today, which wasn't much. (I'm sure every Tipp person would agree with me on that)."
Are you really a Kerry man in disguise?

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 23/04/2017 23:57:52    1982033

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When things go well for Tipp forwards, they can shoot the lights out. 2010 and 2016 finals show that. But what beats Tipp the majority of the time is the inability of their forwards to win their own ball in the sky, especially their half forward line who were cleaned out today. And I would have big question marks about their full back line. Even last year Barrett and Barry were exposed. Cahill is the best hurler they have in the full back line but today's game didn't suit him with the pace of the Galway forwards. And Galway kept the ball away from P Maher today which was a good tactic. Only 3 counties capable of winning the all ireland in my opinion: Tipp, KK and Galway.

HurlingSnob (Dublin) - Posts: 220 - 24/04/2017 01:22:36    1982045

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Let's not get carried galway fans. I was at the Waterford game, where we were awful for 50 minutes against a Waterford B team, only when we played as if we had nothing to lose did we turn it around. The momentum and confidence one gets from a comeback like that gives confidence going forward, and galway had it for the last 3 weeks. It's nil all again. Don't get me wrong, nice to win a bit of silverware and always nice to beat tipp like that as I think I'll be long six feet under before that happens again.

The big questions remain. Can we deal with being favourites, can we beat the cats when it matters, will we back up the last 3 weeks, and will we be ready for the tipp onslaught if we meet in summer. We are contenders, but that's all.

galwaydublin (Galway) - Posts: 226 - 24/04/2017 07:46:04    1982059

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "It wasn't a fantastic display by Galway. It was a competent performance -- no more than that. They beat what was in front of them today, which wasn't much. (I'm sure every Tipp person would agree with me on that)."
Fair point. They should have won by 30 points. Deserved to be 12+ up at half time. Tipp were terrible all over the field.
As I said before the Wexford match there's a number of Tipp players not performing. All of a sudden Ryan has a job on his hands. He has Barrett only back from injury and very rusty, Bonner not fit and Callinan injured and off form as is Cahill, Barry, Ronan Maher and Bubbles. A lot of work to do to get to Galway's level.
Galway's biggest problem now is keeping their feet on the ground. Surprised that Cyril Farrell done the complete opposite of putting a small damper on things last night. Going to be an interesting year though.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 24/04/2017 08:24:49    1982063

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i dont think tipp will be panicing this morning.
callanan was a huge loss,those frees missed were vital given when they were missed.but he also is such an addition to the tipp forward line.
galway hammered them but galway will know more than most the difference between league and championship is huge.
a beating in april is not the worst thing,it gives you time to regroup and i doubt tipp will be too concerned.
i still see them walking munster and winning the all-ireland.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 24/04/2017 08:55:48    1982079

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Replying To perfect10:  "i dont think tipp will be panicing this morning.
callanan was a huge loss,those frees missed were vital given when they were missed.but he also is such an addition to the tipp forward line.
galway hammered them but galway will know more than most the difference between league and championship is huge.
a beating in april is not the worst thing,it gives you time to regroup and i doubt tipp will be too concerned.
i still see them walking munster and winning the all-ireland."
I'd agree..I'm not overly worried and neither is most Tipp people which is probably a bad thing when you think about it!! There's certainly an air of unjustified confidence around the place. People forget that Galway should've beaten Tipp last year in both league and cship

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 24/04/2017 11:34:27    1982144

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Replying To galwaydublin:  "Let's not get carried galway fans. I was at the Waterford game, where we were awful for 50 minutes against a Waterford B team, only when we played as if we had nothing to lose did we turn it around. The momentum and confidence one gets from a comeback like that gives confidence going forward, and galway had it for the last 3 weeks. It's nil all again. Don't get me wrong, nice to win a bit of silverware and always nice to beat tipp like that as I think I'll be long six feet under before that happens again.

The big questions remain. Can we deal with being favourites, can we beat the cats when it matters, will we back up the last 3 weeks, and will we be ready for the tipp onslaught if we meet in summer. We are contenders, but that's all."
We beat the Kildare 'B team' the same day, and then beat their 'A team' by twice as much a week later.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3452 - 24/04/2017 11:42:05    1982150

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Replying To perfect10:  "i dont think tipp will be panicing this morning.
callanan was a huge loss,those frees missed were vital given when they were missed.but he also is such an addition to the tipp forward line.
galway hammered them but galway will know more than most the difference between league and championship is huge.
a beating in april is not the worst thing,it gives you time to regroup and i doubt tipp will be too concerned.
i still see them walking munster and winning the all-ireland."
Callanan was definitely a huge loss, but any intercounty hurler should have slotted those frees over for sport.
They had bigger problems than that yesterday, bullied about the place and a defense parting like the Red Sea for the goals.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1913 - 24/04/2017 13:17:42    1982196

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For me it showed how to possibly beat Tipp, move the ball fast and dont take it into contact or drive it on top of their half back line.
I was lamenting the first half wides for Galway and saying they would come back to haunt them, but it was clearly a strategy aimed at bypassing their half back line. It worked a treat.
I wouldn't be worried if I was a Tipp supporter either, yesterday was just "one of those days". The ideal time of year for it to happen any team. Better now than the first round of the championship, although whoever they play in Munster will be watching closely yesterday.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 24/04/2017 14:03:18    1982211

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Fair point. They should have won by 30 points. Deserved to be 12+ up at half time. Tipp were terrible all over the field.
As I said before the Wexford match there's a number of Tipp players not performing. All of a sudden Ryan has a job on his hands. He has Barrett only back from injury and very rusty, Bonner not fit and Callinan injured and off form as is Cahill, Barry, Ronan Maher and Bubbles. A lot of work to do to get to Galway's level.
Galway's biggest problem now is keeping their feet on the ground. Surprised that Cyril Farrell done the complete opposite of putting a small damper on things last night. Going to be an interesting year though."
You might be a little bit hard on Ronan Maher. The rest I'd agree.

Barrett and Bonnar will be fine once they get more training under the belt.

Barry and Cahill were completely out of sorts. Bubbles was anonymous yesterday.

It's better for Ryan to have this problem now when he has a little bit of time to rectify it than further down the line in a month or two.

This result could prove to be the best thing to happen to them in the long run.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 24/04/2017 14:10:43    1982215

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Look to 2010 for inspiration!!!

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 24/04/2017 15:52:55    1982255

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Replying To Pinkie:  "For me it showed how to possibly beat Tipp, move the ball fast and dont take it into contact or drive it on top of their half back line.
I was lamenting the first half wides for Galway and saying they would come back to haunt them, but it was clearly a strategy aimed at bypassing their half back line. It worked a treat.
I wouldn't be worried if I was a Tipp supporter either, yesterday was just "one of those days". The ideal time of year for it to happen any team. Better now than the first round of the championship, although whoever they play in Munster will be watching closely yesterday."
I don't agree with your first line assessment there, Pinkie. There was no magic blueprint on display for taking down Tipp. For a start, Galway had no problem taking the ball into contact anywhere on the field, because they were dominating almost all of the matchups. Galway won imo, because the Tipp attack could offer zero threat to Galway's defense on the day, and because Galway's midfielders held a rampant upperhand from start to finish, and were handling & hurling a ton of ball. A dominance in positions 2 to 9 is an almost guaranteed recipe to win any hurling match, and sure enough the Galway attack eventually enjoyed the flow of possession that stemmed from these areas of domination. They wasted it for the first 25mins or so, but in the latter 45mins, they put Tipp away by 16 points. On top of the obvious issue that Tipp had with possession flow, their full-back line also looked below par on the day, especially when compared to the perception that's out there about how good they are. With carnage in front of them, and carnage behind them, it probably was no huge surprise that the half-back Mahers didn't manage to exert a huge influence on proceedings either on the day.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3452 - 24/04/2017 16:44:36    1982278

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Replying To perfect10:  "i dont think tipp will be panicing this morning.
callanan was a huge loss,those frees missed were vital given when they were missed.but he also is such an addition to the tipp forward line.
galway hammered them but galway will know more than most the difference between league and championship is huge.
a beating in april is not the worst thing,it gives you time to regroup and i doubt tipp will be too concerned.
i still see them walking munster and winning the all-ireland."
Pinkie
Connor Cooney who scored 1.4 against LK and was easily the best forward on view that day was off for Galway yesterday, so that to some extent offset the loss of Seamus Callinan to Tipp.
I was surprised at how poor some Tipp defenders were yesterday. Last Sunday Mike Casey was exposed a few times and conceded 2 points to Connor Whelan and some of us were questioning if he should be replaced. However after yesterday we are not so sure anymore.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4338 - 24/04/2017 17:01:32    1982284

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "You might be a little bit hard on Ronan Maher. The rest I'd agree.

Barrett and Bonnar will be fine once they get more training under the belt.

Barry and Cahill were completely out of sorts. Bubbles was anonymous yesterday.

It's better for Ryan to have this problem now when he has a little bit of time to rectify it than further down the line in a month or two.

This result could prove to be the best thing to happen to them in the long run."
I'd agree. I'd expect all Ive mentioned to improve dramatically whether that's enough remains to be seen. Big ask for Barrett in particular after being so long out. Bubbles can go one or two ways now. Just hope he gets the head down. I have been critical of bonner in the past but I think we seen a small glimpse of why he is so important to Tipp yesterday. You'd be hopefully it's the kick up the arse we need

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 24/04/2017 18:03:02    1982306

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