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Replying To yelowbelly: "It's a lovely idea, but I can't see the " money" people going for it. Some people are more interested in €€€€€€'s than in accommodating players or spectators.
On the fixtures or fatigue issue, if St Martins keep on winning in both codes, there's the possibility of them playing several weeks in succession. The county finals will only be finished in time to straight into Leinster club championship. I don't have dates or fixtures, but the Leinster football ( club) usually starts on the October bank holiday weekend, which will only be a week after county final." Leinsters are both in mid November this year
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football final sunday week,hurling on bank holiday weekend i heard.so if martins win on sunday,they will play 2 county finals on the following 2 weekends,with the football first,
i think everybody would like a double header,it would attract a bigger crowd than 2 stand alone fixtures.i am sure oulart would accommodate a double header two
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 09/10/2017 14:25:57
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What a great day in the park and what a terrible pity it will all be over shortly. I disagree that Liam Ryan should have taken up Gareth Sinnott as reverting to a defensive system would have been a step back excuse the pun. Liam Ryan in the forward line paid huge dividends since he moved there and was a major factor in the rejuvenation of his teams fortune who earlier in the season were being mentioned as possible relegation candidates.
Darragh pepper certainly gave the Oulart backline plenty to deal with while Kevin Sheridan as others have said showed some fantastic touches and energy. Nicky Kirwan at the other end continued to do what he has been doing for years clocking up a very impressive tally. While St Martins appeared to be too strong for Gorey the two goals were the killer blow. For Oulart it is just another county final while the real pressure is on the Martins who surely must deliver this year however as Gerry Forde mentioned yesterday in the post match comments it might not be so easy to beat the dog for the hard road who earlier this season were being written off in many quarters. Really looking forward to all the big football and hurling games over the coming weeks.
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Replying To hurlorhurley: "Leinsters are both in mid November this year" I didn't know that, I was just going on previous years when the football (usually) started on Oct bank holiday weekend.
yelowbelly (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 09/10/2017 15:17:34
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Replying To perfect10: "football final sunday week,hurling on bank holiday weekend i heard.so if martins win on sunday,they will play 2 county finals on the following 2 weekends,with the football first,
i think everybody would like a double header,it would attract a bigger crowd than 2 stand alone fixtures.i am sure oulart would accommodate a double header two" Why would Oulart " accomodate" a double header ? Why should it be their call ?
Surely it's up to the fixtures people to make that decision
yelowbelly (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 09/10/2017 15:20:14
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Replying To perfect10: "football final sunday week,hurling on bank holiday weekend i heard.so if martins win on sunday,they will play 2 county finals on the following 2 weekends,with the football first,
i think everybody would like a double header,it would attract a bigger crowd than 2 stand alone fixtures.i am sure oulart would accommodate a double header two" Could play intermediate and senior hurling finals as a double header depending on the results of crossabeg/monageer and Martin's/shels next weekend. Crossabeg down to be playing leinster championship weekend of Oct 21st/22nd
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Replying To Stratos: "What a great day in the park and what a terrible pity it will all be over shortly. I disagree that Liam Ryan should have taken up Gareth Sinnott as reverting to a defensive system would have been a step back excuse the pun. Liam Ryan in the forward line paid huge dividends since he moved there and was a major factor in the rejuvenation of his teams fortune who earlier in the season were being mentioned as possible relegation candidates.
Darragh pepper certainly gave the Oulart backline plenty to deal with while Kevin Sheridan as others have said showed some fantastic touches and energy. Nicky Kirwan at the other end continued to do what he has been doing for years clocking up a very impressive tally. While St Martins appeared to be too strong for Gorey the two goals were the killer blow. For Oulart it is just another county final while the real pressure is on the Martins who surely must deliver this year however as Gerry Forde mentioned yesterday in the post match comments it might not be so easy to beat the dog for the hard road who earlier this season were being written off in many quarters. Really looking forward to all the big football and hurling games over the coming weeks." Is there real pressure on St Martin's they are going in as underdogs with a young team?
Oulart has bags of experience it's theirs to lose in my opinion. St Martin's are a coming team but this year may be a year too soon for them.
hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 09/10/2017 16:34:46
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Is this a last chance at All Ireland success for Oulart?
hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 12/10/2017 16:08:37
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Anyone at the Monageer Crossabeg game? St Anne's must be cursing the result final now at least 3 weeks away how come extra time wasn't played?
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Replying To paddybull: "Anyone at the Monageer Crossabeg game? St Anne's must be cursing the result final now at least 3 weeks away how come extra time wasn't played?" No extra time for county semi finals. Its a rule that needs to be changed to avoid championships dragging on for weeks. Also county championships should not be held up for Leinster club championships. Leinster club matches should be on Tuesday nights under lights in a neutral venue and have every weekend available to play club championships
Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 524 - 15/10/2017 16:35:11
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Now I didn't travel down to the Park myself, but followed the senior semi-final replay on the live stream, which is a great innovation even if the camera work occasionally doesn't follow the play.
Thought it was a poor spectacle overall, as Shels in particular engaged in a bit too much off-the-ball nonsense. It's funny that despite St.Martin's by-now weekly exertions flitting between both codes without a break, they looked the fitter team.
Shels cut them open twice in the first quarter from basically the same move down the left corner- Martin's goalie pulled off a fine reaction save to stop a certain goal first time around, but they fared better next time. It puzzles me why they stopped the supply line into the full-forward line as instead they seemed more preoccupied at stopping Martin's rather than damaging them in their own right.
Shelmaliers' will probably feel aggrieved at some of the referee's decisions, but in reality they contributed to their own downfall far more than any other external factors. Firstly, I counted at least three Martin's scores in the first half that came directly from a Shels' mistake, including a free needlessly conceded by Malone after his team-mates had done well to turn over possession. And the red card was probably the silliest one you are likely to see anywhere. I don't know why Shels thought it wise to start a bout of fisticuffs at half-time, but for a lad to get involved in it mere minutes after picking up a yellow was asking for trouble. The two black-cards in the second half were by the letter of the law too.
The losers also kicked three scoreable frees wide in the second half, including one from Nolan right in front of the posts. He wasn't as prominent as Shels would have hoped, same goes for Malone. In contrast, Martins' big names grew in stature as the game wore on, in particular Daithi Waters, who ruled the middle sector in the second half. Lyng was consistent from dead-balls too, and it ultimately proved decisive.
The weight of history now hangs over St.Martin's as they are two games away from achieving a feat never seen in Wexford, and more than likely in any other county either. While I have previous stated my belief that Oulart will win the hurling, it will take a good performance from Starlights to stop Martin's in the football. But then again, Starlights' manager has built a reputation for meticulous detail, and will surely have a game-plan devised after watching them for two games now.
Only caught extra-time in Intermediate final but it certainly wasn't without it's drama. Bunclody got a bit of luck to force extra-time, but ultimately Kilanerin's experience told in the end, although their winning scores came from an unlikely source. They'll hope to make an immediate impact back up in senior next year, which in fairness has been an ongoing trend in recent years.
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Replying To beano: "Now I didn't travel down to the Park myself, but followed the senior semi-final replay on the live stream, which is a great innovation even if the camera work occasionally doesn't follow the play.
Thought it was a poor spectacle overall, as Shels in particular engaged in a bit too much off-the-ball nonsense. It's funny that despite St.Martin's by-now weekly exertions flitting between both codes without a break, they looked the fitter team.
Shels cut them open twice in the first quarter from basically the same move down the left corner- Martin's goalie pulled off a fine reaction save to stop a certain goal first time around, but they fared better next time. It puzzles me why they stopped the supply line into the full-forward line as instead they seemed more preoccupied at stopping Martin's rather than damaging them in their own right.
Shelmaliers' will probably feel aggrieved at some of the referee's decisions, but in reality they contributed to their own downfall far more than any other external factors. Firstly, I counted at least three Martin's scores in the first half that came directly from a Shels' mistake, including a free needlessly conceded by Malone after his team-mates had done well to turn over possession. And the red card was probably the silliest one you are likely to see anywhere. I don't know why Shels thought it wise to start a bout of fisticuffs at half-time, but for a lad to get involved in it mere minutes after picking up a yellow was asking for trouble. The two black-cards in the second half were by the letter of the law too.
The losers also kicked three scoreable frees wide in the second half, including one from Nolan right in front of the posts. He wasn't as prominent as Shels would have hoped, same goes for Malone. In contrast, Martins' big names grew in stature as the game wore on, in particular Daithi Waters, who ruled the middle sector in the second half. Lyng was consistent from dead-balls too, and it ultimately proved decisive.
The weight of history now hangs over St.Martin's as they are two games away from achieving a feat never seen in Wexford, and more than likely in any other county either. While I have previous stated my belief that Oulart will win the hurling, it will take a good performance from Starlights to stop Martin's in the football. But then again, Starlights' manager has built a reputation for meticulous detail, and will surely have a game-plan devised after watching them for two games now.
Only caught extra-time in Intermediate final but it certainly wasn't without it's drama. Bunclody got a bit of luck to force extra-time, but ultimately Kilanerin's experience told in the end, although their winning scores came from an unlikely source. They'll hope to make an immediate impact back up in senior next year, which in fairness has been an ongoing trend in recent years." The martins are the masters of the off the ball stuff they are just smarter at it. The amount of times they stop a man after he passes a ball is huge and they get away with it all the time. There players also constantly badger the ref and especially umpires. The sooner referees pull them up on this the better.
Loughmore in Tipp done the double only a few years ago.
Martins were the better team today they have more scorers and shels lack real scoring power.
mrfox (Wexford) - Posts: 338 - 15/10/2017 19:30:36
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Replying To beano: "Now I didn't travel down to the Park myself, but followed the senior semi-final replay on the live stream, which is a great innovation even if the camera work occasionally doesn't follow the play.
Thought it was a poor spectacle overall, as Shels in particular engaged in a bit too much off-the-ball nonsense. It's funny that despite St.Martin's by-now weekly exertions flitting between both codes without a break, they looked the fitter team.
Shels cut them open twice in the first quarter from basically the same move down the left corner- Martin's goalie pulled off a fine reaction save to stop a certain goal first time around, but they fared better next time. It puzzles me why they stopped the supply line into the full-forward line as instead they seemed more preoccupied at stopping Martin's rather than damaging them in their own right.
Shelmaliers' will probably feel aggrieved at some of the referee's decisions, but in reality they contributed to their own downfall far more than any other external factors. Firstly, I counted at least three Martin's scores in the first half that came directly from a Shels' mistake, including a free needlessly conceded by Malone after his team-mates had done well to turn over possession. And the red card was probably the silliest one you are likely to see anywhere. I don't know why Shels thought it wise to start a bout of fisticuffs at half-time, but for a lad to get involved in it mere minutes after picking up a yellow was asking for trouble. The two black-cards in the second half were by the letter of the law too.
The losers also kicked three scoreable frees wide in the second half, including one from Nolan right in front of the posts. He wasn't as prominent as Shels would have hoped, same goes for Malone. In contrast, Martins' big names grew in stature as the game wore on, in particular Daithi Waters, who ruled the middle sector in the second half. Lyng was consistent from dead-balls too, and it ultimately proved decisive.
The weight of history now hangs over St.Martin's as they are two games away from achieving a feat never seen in Wexford, and more than likely in any other county either. While I have previous stated my belief that Oulart will win the hurling, it will take a good performance from Starlights to stop Martin's in the football. But then again, Starlights' manager has built a reputation for meticulous detail, and will surely have a game-plan devised after watching them for two games now.
Only caught extra-time in Intermediate final but it certainly wasn't without it's drama. Bunclody got a bit of luck to force extra-time, but ultimately Kilanerin's experience told in the end, although their winning scores came from an unlikely source. They'll hope to make an immediate impact back up in senior next year, which in fairness has been an ongoing trend in recent years." St annes done the double in 2000. So what feat are the martins only 2 game s away from achieving ???
Teddy5 (Wexford) - Posts: 122 - 15/10/2017 19:47:21
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Replying To mrfox: "The martins are the masters of the off the ball stuff they are just smarter at it. The amount of times they stop a man after he passes a ball is huge and they get away with it all the time. There players also constantly badger the ref and especially umpires. The sooner referees pull them up on this the better.
Loughmore in Tipp done the double only a few years ago.
Martins were the better team today they have more scorers and shels lack real scoring power." I am aware of Loughmore doing the double in Tipp a few years ago. Sure Slaughtneil done the Ulster double only last year!
But I find it hard to believe that any club would have seen all their adult teams (first and second string) win their respective county championships in the one year. That's what I was referring to.
Martin's are cute at the dark-arts alright, but Shels seemed to focused on partaking in them too, and complaining to the ref, rather than asking the same questions they did in the opening quarter.
beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1424 - 15/10/2017 19:56:39
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Replying To beano: "I am aware of Loughmore doing the double in Tipp a few years ago. Sure Slaughtneil done the Ulster double only last year!
But I find it hard to believe that any club would have seen all their adult teams (first and second string) win their respective county championships in the one year. That's what I was referring to.
Martin's are cute at the dark-arts alright, but Shels seemed to focused on partaking in them too, and complaining to the ref, rather than asking the same questions they did in the opening quarter." Good point about second string teams as well. If you count u21 huriling and possible u21 football (favourites) it surely would be historic.
mrfox (Wexford) - Posts: 338 - 15/10/2017 22:04:35
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Replying To beano: "I am aware of Loughmore doing the double in Tipp a few years ago. Sure Slaughtneil done the Ulster double only last year!
But I find it hard to believe that any club would have seen all their adult teams (first and second string) win their respective county championships in the one year. That's what I was referring to.
Martin's are cute at the dark-arts alright, but Shels seemed to focused on partaking in them too, and complaining to the ref, rather than asking the same questions they did in the opening quarter." Well it would be an amazing achievement, but it wouldnt be ALL of their adult teams. They have a third team in both hurling and football also
Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 524 - 15/10/2017 23:03:36
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I was home for the weekend and got to see the games in the Park yesterday. It was a mixed bag really, Shels were disappointing and couldn't cope with the power and pace of St Martins, but the intermediate final was a great game.
The Martins look strong all over the field, but I thought Shels were wrong to try "mix it" with them. Martins are big and strong and were never going to be bullied. Daithi is still one of the best midfielders around, but they seem to have power and pace all over. It could be an intriguing final, I hope I'm home to see it !!
The intermediate final was very enjoyable, Bunclody came back twice when they looked dead and buried. Kilanerin finished extra time very strong and their bench was probably the winning of the game. Matty showed what he can do in the second half, a couple of his points were outrageous. Aidan Nolan had a huge game for Bunclody, it was a pity for him to be on a losing team.
yelowbelly (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 16/10/2017 12:30:11
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Replying To yelowbelly: "I was home for the weekend and got to see the games in the Park yesterday. It was a mixed bag really, Shels were disappointing and couldn't cope with the power and pace of St Martins, but the intermediate final was a great game.
The Martins look strong all over the field, but I thought Shels were wrong to try "mix it" with them. Martins are big and strong and were never going to be bullied. Daithi is still one of the best midfielders around, but they seem to have power and pace all over. It could be an intriguing final, I hope I'm home to see it !!
The intermediate final was very enjoyable, Bunclody came back twice when they looked dead and buried. Kilanerin finished extra time very strong and their bench was probably the winning of the game. Matty showed what he can do in the second half, a couple of his points were outrageous. Aidan Nolan had a huge game for Bunclody, it was a pity for him to be on a losing team." Am I right in assuming that Kilanerin/Tara Rocks combination teams is a one year thing and next year Kilanerin will be back on their own and therefore will lose a lot of players who got them up to senior?
hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 17/10/2017 12:10:57
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Replying To paddybull: "Anyone at the Monageer Crossabeg game? St Anne's must be cursing the result final now at least 3 weeks away how come extra time wasn't played?" was passing bellfield on saturday and dropped in for the last 20 minutes as the gate was open,so i can only say what i saw it that time.
from what i seen,monageer will be kicking themselves,they had a chance for the win at the death and fluffed it.but they seemed to have more on the line than ballymurn and some very good subs.
from what i saw,the monageer centre back was outstanding.tommy they were calling him and he outshone the other number 6 paidi foley who seemed to be missing for the last 20 minutes.
neither team have very good forwards,but monageers backs are very tight and disciplined.
from what i saw,the game was played in a great spirit with not a dirty stroke between the 2 sides.
monageer have more than ballymurn which i have to say came as a surprise to me,but i base that on 20 minutes so i cannot say what went before it.
annes will probably beat either of them,but if monageer win the replay,d o keefe and co will come up against a steely defence so i would say it is by no means a foregone conculsion.
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 17/10/2017 12:28:43
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Likewise I felt going to Belfield on Saturday that Crossbeg would be too strong but how wrong I was. A great game that could have went either way in the end and a replay was a fair result. Sunday a repeat in Wexford park where the tension was surreal and what a pity that Bunclody had to lose in this fashion. For me Mattie Ford's 10 mins of brilliance was the main difference between these two teams. Aidan Nolan was outstanding for the hour, a fine dual player he is. The senior replay was a big disappointment as is turned into a dragging and pulling match for the hour, constant cynical fouls which no referee could control. If the rules were to be applied many players could have received red cards. The Martins are a fine team and they are being tipped by all of the newspaper pundits to overcome Oulart on Sunday. Lets hope we have an entertaining game.
Stratos (Wexford) - Posts: 37 - 18/10/2017 10:14:20
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