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Replying To beano:  "I was the only one to predict Sars to win and had the four winners in the QF too. My only knowledge of the games over the weekend is the double header in Bellefield. Castletown destroyed Taghmon on occasion when they got going. Taghmon were limited but gave as good as they got for three quarters of the game. Danny Gardiner has to be the most consistent footballer in the county.

Only saw the first half of the Martins Glynn game but Martins looked vunerable in defence. Conceded two soft penalties. Overall they have the potential to hammer anyone but the defence is suspect.

Castletown Shelmaliers final"
I got to the 4 quarter finals at the weekend and would just about make the martins the favourites to go all the way. Yeah they shipped some goal chances but they completely overran a good glynn team in the 2nd half. I fancy them to beat the Shels and Castletown starlights is a real 50/50. Incredibly sarsfields have won 2 games and lost 9 in there last 2 campaigns but it's been enough to hold onto senior status.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 21/09/2017 01:58:54    2048849

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Senior
Martins v alley- Martins by 7 or 8
Oilgate v gorey- Oilgate to edge it could go to extra time
Oulart v shels- Oulart by 4 or 5
Rathnure v rapps- 50/50 game but I'll go for the rapps who are playing with confidence in both codes.
Ferns v cloughbawn- hard to back either team given recent form but Ferns have more quality upfront if things click for them

Intermediate
Crossabeg v askamore- crossabeg
Cranford v monageer-craanford
Annes v shamrocks-annes
Bunclody v adamstown-Bunclody
Ballygarret v cushinstown-ballygarrett

Oulart and duffry to win intermediate a semi finals, gusserane and rapps in junior and martins to win junior A final

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 21/09/2017 02:09:18    2048850

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Martins v Alley - Martins comfortably
Oilgate v Gorey- Oilgate to win by 5/6 points
Oulart v Shels- Tough game, Oulart to just about shade it.
Rathnure v Rapps- As hard to call as Oulart She;s game, going to go with Rathnure
Ferns v Cloughbawn- I see Paul Morris went off injured in the football last weekend, the result of this game hinges on whether he's recovered or not.

Intermediate
Crossabeg v Askamore - Crossabeg to win here. Sluggish v Adamstown 2 weeks ago, the likes of Foley and them who went on holidays for the summer would have put in a lot of work over the 2 weeks to get it right I imagine. Crossabeg by 4/5 pts.
Cranford v Monageer- I hear Craanfords free taker has gone on holidays and that makes me go with Monageer now, would have went with Ford but that's a huge loss, he's worth 10pts per game.
Annes v Shamrocks - Annes after a dogged battle.
Bunclody v adamstown- Game of the quarters finals, have picked Bunclody to win the Inter champ, so sticking with them. Aidan Nolan has been on fire.

Ballygarret v Cushinstown- Ballygarrett to win this comfortably. Although Redmond is a loss, they still should have plenty in them to see off a poor Cushinstown team.

dbyrney1 (Wexford) - Posts: 74 - 21/09/2017 07:55:38    2048859

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Martins v Alley - Buffers Alley will hope to exert their presence on proceedings, but the only question will be how the young lads of Martin's cope with the added pressure of the business end. Martin's by 4

Oylegate v Naomh Eanna- tie of the round for me. Both sides have a good age profile, and a few hurlers capable of lighting up the game. Conor Mc v Podge Doran will be one battle to look out four, but the respective conversion rates of Jamie Reck/Seamus Casey and Padraig Doyle will be the most crucial factor. May well go to extra-time, but Gorey to just about shade it.

Oulart v Shelmaliers- Possibly a hard one to call. But Oulart seem to be motoring again after that opening round loss to Martin's and have game-changers on every line. Still the team to beat for me. Oulart by 3-4

Rathnure v Rapps- Rathnure the only unbeaten team to date. Rapparees seem to be feeding off the good form of their footballers. But I think they are still overly-reliant on Mossy for scores. Rathnure by 3

Ferns v Cloughbawn- As referred to earlier, Morris' availability is crucial. But even still, and despite neither side boasting any semblance of form, I still think Ferns will turn it on when they need it most. Victory will be the biggest win in their modern history for whoever achieves it. Aside from Morris and Ian Byrne, Ferns' other key men are either pushing 30 or are already beyond that threshold, and the same could be said of Cloughbawn too, although Flood and Whitty should be the backbone to them for years to come. So it's vital that senior status is preserved.

Intermediate
Crossabeg v Askamore -the return of Padraig Foley could be the crucial difference between the sides. His likely tussle with Shane Tomkins could be worth the admission fee alone. Crossabeg still have a major say in this championship, and I back them by 3.

Craanford v Monageer- If the rumours are true regarding Craanford's free-taker being on holiday, then that's a massive dent to their chances. But I originally tipped Craanford to prevail when the draw was made, and stand by my convictions.

St.Annes v Shamrocks - Shamrocks are arguably the biggest battlers left in the competition, and won't shirk under the threat posed by St.Anne's. But Mark Furlong has been the epitome of consistency from frees for Anne's all campaign, while Dee O'Keeffe has gradually grown in influence too. Anne's by 4.

HWH Bunclody v Adamstown-Would echo the previous posters statement about this being the pick of the quarter-finals. On paper, Adamstown have the likes of Shane O'Gorman, James Breen, Michael Furlong and Tony French to call on, while much will depend on how they curb the influence of Aidan Nolan, who appears to be in red-hot form. Adamstown by 2 points

Ballygarret v Cushinstown- if the Ballygarrett that blew away St.Anne's show up, they will win comfortably. If the Ballygarrett that imploded against Bunclody in the final quarter rears it's head, they could be shocked. I plump for the former and the seasiders to stay up with a bit to spare.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1424 - 21/09/2017 21:29:24    2049180

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Replying To beano:  "I was the only one to predict Sars to win and had the four winners in the QF too. My only knowledge of the games over the weekend is the double header in Bellefield. Castletown destroyed Taghmon on occasion when they got going. Taghmon were limited but gave as good as they got for three quarters of the game. Danny Gardiner has to be the most consistent footballer in the county.

Only saw the first half of the Martins Glynn game but Martins looked vunerable in defence. Conceded two soft penalties. Overall they have the potential to hammer anyone but the defence is suspect.

Castletown Shelmaliers final"
Great to see the Martins, Shels and Castletown show faith in their younger players over the championship thus far. Real crop of good talent emerging

gaacultured (Wexford) - Posts: 7 - 22/09/2017 01:04:11    2049222

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Replying To gaacultured:  "Great to see the Martins, Shels and Castletown show faith in their younger players over the championship thus far. Real crop of good talent emerging"
Bringing two outsiders who have nothing to do with club is hardly showing faith in your young lads

mrfox (Wexford) - Posts: 338 - 22/09/2017 09:55:59    2049252

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Replying To mrfox:  "Bringing two outsiders who have nothing to do with club is hardly showing faith in your young lads"
If you went to the QFs last weekend and the previous groups games you would clearly see all clubs showing faith in young lads. Not questioning outsiders

gaacultured (Wexford) - Posts: 7 - 22/09/2017 11:10:36    2049276

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Replying To mrfox:  "Bringing two outsiders who have nothing to do with club is hardly showing faith in your young lads"
If you went to the QFs last weekend and the previous groups games you would clearly see all clubs showing faith in young lads. Not questioning outsiders

gaacultured (Wexford) - Posts: 7 - 22/09/2017 15:30:07    2049375

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Of course posters with no involvement with a club will find it acceptable for county players to swan off and leave their clubmates high and dry - clubmates who've been waiting in the wings all summer for the very same county players to become available...and then they decide they can't be bothered playing anyway. It's an absolute disgrace and an insult to the clubs and their teammates.

These non-club affiliated posters are also advancing an incorrect argument about the fixtures calendar. This is basic conflating on two separate things. Yes, there's no master fixtures plan published at the start of the year that is rigidly stuck to but it's very, very well established that the club's will be out every weekend in alternate codes once the county teams are eliminated.

It beggars belief that anybody could excuse this shameful behaviour.

NedWheeler (Wexford) - Posts: 10 - 22/09/2017 18:32:21    2049422

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Replying To NedWheeler:  "Of course posters with no involvement with a club will find it acceptable for county players to swan off and leave their clubmates high and dry - clubmates who've been waiting in the wings all summer for the very same county players to become available...and then they decide they can't be bothered playing anyway. It's an absolute disgrace and an insult to the clubs and their teammates.

These non-club affiliated posters are also advancing an incorrect argument about the fixtures calendar. This is basic conflating on two separate things. Yes, there's no master fixtures plan published at the start of the year that is rigidly stuck to but it's very, very well established that the club's will be out every weekend in alternate codes once the county teams are eliminated.

It beggars belief that anybody could excuse this shameful behaviour."
Who is that post directed at??

gaacultured (Wexford) - Posts: 7 - 22/09/2017 22:49:03    2049468

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Replying To NedWheeler:  "Of course posters with no involvement with a club will find it acceptable for county players to swan off and leave their clubmates high and dry - clubmates who've been waiting in the wings all summer for the very same county players to become available...and then they decide they can't be bothered playing anyway. It's an absolute disgrace and an insult to the clubs and their teammates.

These non-club affiliated posters are also advancing an incorrect argument about the fixtures calendar. This is basic conflating on two separate things. Yes, there's no master fixtures plan published at the start of the year that is rigidly stuck to but it's very, very well established that the club's will be out every weekend in alternate codes once the county teams are eliminated.

It beggars belief that anybody could excuse this shameful behaviour."
Surely the whole holiday thing has been flogged to death by now.
We are into the serious business end of championships, I would have thought there are more important items on the agenda ??

yelowbelly (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 23/09/2017 12:58:48    2049565

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Cushinstown survive 16 to 1 11

Whelan (Wexford) - Posts: 5 - 23/09/2017 14:26:51    2049591

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No surprise to see Cushinstown win. Ballygarrett were second going into the final round of games and now are relegated so must be a big shock to them considering the forwards they have. Shows you that there is nothing between the teams in intermediate grade. I was surprised to Oylegate beaten so easily by Gorey. After that win don't be surprised to see them in a county final. Martins Alley a lot closer than anyone thought but Martins till through. Cloughbawn going down, serious questions must be asked how a team can get to a Senior County Final in one year and then get relegated the next!!!

No surprise in Intermediate, Ballymurn beating Askamore well, Annes winning well and the only small surprise was how poor Craanford were.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 403 - 23/09/2017 18:55:32    2049672

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "No surprise to see Cushinstown win. Ballygarrett were second going into the final round of games and now are relegated so must be a big shock to them considering the forwards they have. Shows you that there is nothing between the teams in intermediate grade. I was surprised to Oylegate beaten so easily by Gorey. After that win don't be surprised to see them in a county final. Martins Alley a lot closer than anyone thought but Martins till through. Cloughbawn going down, serious questions must be asked how a team can get to a Senior County Final in one year and then get relegated the next!!!

No surprise in Intermediate, Ballymurn beating Askamore well, Annes winning well and the only small surprise was how poor Craanford were."
Gorey lucky to finish the first half with 15; should have been down a man after only 30 seconds - taking Jamie Reck out of the game and later in the half three players attacking Podge Doran leading to a free for all amongst nearly every player on the field bar the two keepers. Gorey played way better in the second half, Oylegate were rattled and lost their shape and composure on the ball. Conor Mac was the difference in the end, Oylegate got sucked into pulling men back when they needed scores. Hopefully Oylegate will learn from this and come back stronger next year, in fairness they went out to hurl and continued to try and hurl even when being roughed up, whereas in years gone past they've have got drawn into off the ball stuff. It's been a great year for the small club and a credit to all involved - plenty of young hurlers comming up through ranks.
Hopefully this will get McDonalds year going and earn his All Star nomination!

WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 382 - 23/09/2017 20:04:12    2049702

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Hurling much improved so far in the knock out stages. Gorey very impressive against Oil gate. St Marin's only throughas a result of a poor refereeing decision. A draw probably would have been a fair result.

luvgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 157 - 23/09/2017 20:12:22    2049712

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At the two games in Pat's Park. The final scoreline in the first game actually belies the story of how it went, as it was generally low-quality and lacked a sparked until Ballymurn upped the ante in the final 17 minutes. They out-scored Askamore 1-8 to 0-2 from there onwards.

Paudie Foley was generally brilliant for Crossabeg but he still has plenty stickwork left to improve. Askamore's shot selection was poor, hit 12 wides over the hour, including I think 6 in a row after hitting the first point of the second-half. They were on top at that stage but failed to convert that onto the scoreboard. Then again, their starting XV only scored one point from play between throughout.

The second game was more or less putrid. Only one point from play from either team in the first 20 mins, and Craanford only had three from play overall. They lacked spark, while the rumours around their free-taker being on holiday proved true, and his absence was felt when they missed three scorable frees midway through the second-half.

Credit to Monageer though- their backs were tenacious, with John Breen in particular outstanding; they rarely wasted ball when working it forward; and in Brian O'Loughlin they have one of the more consistent free-takers in the grade. They have been the surprise-packets of the season so far, and Joe Kearns will certainly have them confident of taking whoever they draw in the semis.

Distastrous last couple of weeks for Ballygarret though. Hard to believe how the malaise set in so quickly particularly when they blew Annes away earlier in the campaign. It just goes to show not only how competitive the grade is, but also how valuable momentum is. It is imperative not to take the foot off the gas at any stage. Will be interesting to see whether they will be able to keep everyone on board next year as they have historically had issues with player commitment.

Ferns-Cloughbawn must have been a real humdinger. But then again most relegation finals are. Sad to see Cloughbawn's long stay at the top table end all the same, although there must be some deeper underlying issue considering where they were just eleven months ago. It's vital now that Ferns spend the winter analysising what went wrong this year, and regroup stronger for next year as on their day they are as good as anyone to watch.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1424 - 23/09/2017 20:42:21    2049725

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Shocking Refereeing in Wexford park today. The first game St Martins and Buffers Alley will have to go down as one of the worst refereeing ever seen in Wexford Park. Buffers Alley will have to felt aggrieved about the result. Referee sent off Ciaran Lyng for an off the ball incident but then balanced it up straight away with sending off the Alley keeper for nothing, Zilch. His performance went from bad to worse afterwards. Martins should count themselves very lucky to escape here as the Alley were the better team.
Conor Mc was the main difference in the second quarter final, Oylegate did not spark at all and did not play near as well as they did earlier in the campaign. Massive melee in first half and tonnes of off the ball incidents where Referee wouldn't send anyone off. Lodge Doran was attacked by 3 players at one stage. Hopefully James Owens will get one of the other quarter finals as the quality of the refs are shocking.

Tox73 (Wexford) - Posts: 169 - 23/09/2017 22:49:19    2049763

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Replying To beano:  "At the two games in Pat's Park. The final scoreline in the first game actually belies the story of how it went, as it was generally low-quality and lacked a sparked until Ballymurn upped the ante in the final 17 minutes. They out-scored Askamore 1-8 to 0-2 from there onwards.

Paudie Foley was generally brilliant for Crossabeg but he still has plenty stickwork left to improve. Askamore's shot selection was poor, hit 12 wides over the hour, including I think 6 in a row after hitting the first point of the second-half. They were on top at that stage but failed to convert that onto the scoreboard. Then again, their starting XV only scored one point from play between throughout.

The second game was more or less putrid. Only one point from play from either team in the first 20 mins, and Craanford only had three from play overall. They lacked spark, while the rumours around their free-taker being on holiday proved true, and his absence was felt when they missed three scorable frees midway through the second-half.

Credit to Monageer though- their backs were tenacious, with John Breen in particular outstanding; they rarely wasted ball when working it forward; and in Brian O'Loughlin they have one of the more consistent free-takers in the grade. They have been the surprise-packets of the season so far, and Joe Kearns will certainly have them confident of taking whoever they draw in the semis.

Distastrous last couple of weeks for Ballygarret though. Hard to believe how the malaise set in so quickly particularly when they blew Annes away earlier in the campaign. It just goes to show not only how competitive the grade is, but also how valuable momentum is. It is imperative not to take the foot off the gas at any stage. Will be interesting to see whether they will be able to keep everyone on board next year as they have historically had issues with player commitment.

Ferns-Cloughbawn must have been a real humdinger. But then again most relegation finals are. Sad to see Cloughbawn's long stay at the top table end all the same, although there must be some deeper underlying issue considering where they were just eleven months ago. It's vital now that Ferns spend the winter analysising what went wrong this year, and regroup stronger for next year as on their day they are as good as anyone to watch."
Was at those two games in Patrick's park too. I'm friendly with a good few of the lads playing the first game so I decided to head there for the two games.
First game - poor enough stuff really. Tompkins really very quiet for an intercounty player. PJ Nolan spent too much time defending rather than doing damage on the attack. Some ridiculous shot selection from askamore as well all contributed to this win for ballymurn. Paudi Foley hurled a lot of ball but is a bit wayward at times. Tony Murphy caused problems on the edge of the square too while Sam Kelly looked lively particularly in the first half. If I were askamore I'd be feeling like it was a game that got away and was there for the taking.

Second game was hard to watch because of its stop start nature. A few injuries to Craanford lads must have totalled 8/10 mins. The game had very little flow until the last 5 mins of the first half where monageer pulled clear to open up a 7 point lead at half time. Second half started as badly as the first. When the game settled down and opened up monageer were just far sharper. It is Tommy Breen who I assume you mean was outstanding, and also in my opinion Niall O Reilly. Their Achilles heel going forward is their lack of scores from play.
I think St Anne's and Bunclody are the two strongest teams left in intermediate but maybe adamstown will prove me wrong tomorrow

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 23/09/2017 23:03:33    2049772

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Replying To WEX98:  "Gorey lucky to finish the first half with 15; should have been down a man after only 30 seconds - taking Jamie Reck out of the game and later in the half three players attacking Podge Doran leading to a free for all amongst nearly every player on the field bar the two keepers. Gorey played way better in the second half, Oylegate were rattled and lost their shape and composure on the ball. Conor Mac was the difference in the end, Oylegate got sucked into pulling men back when they needed scores. Hopefully Oylegate will learn from this and come back stronger next year, in fairness they went out to hurl and continued to try and hurl even when being roughed up, whereas in years gone past they've have got drawn into off the ball stuff. It's been a great year for the small club and a credit to all involved - plenty of young hurlers comming up through ranks.
Hopefully this will get McDonalds year going and earn his All Star nomination!"
Reaching a first Senior semi final since 1984 is a big thing for Gorey or any club. Where are ya going mentioning Mc and all stars. No one knows better than him that he didn't have a good year for Wexford but he didn't nominate himself and he didn't just stop. Obviously he's had to get back amongst his own and train hard til his form comes back. That's what top players do. Perhaps his scores in the league in wet and foggy salt hill and against limerick in cold wexford park and cold and wet Offaly got him a nomination. You probably didn't see those games as like a lot of posters on here you think the season only starts in June if they win. The facts are yesterday was a big day for Gorey and Mac made a difference. As Henry Shefflin said even he'd hate to be playing in the Wexford forwards at the moment. Form is temporary class is forever.

Northcountyman (Wexford) - Posts: 59 - 24/09/2017 07:34:23    2049799

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Replying To Northcountyman:  "Reaching a first Senior semi final since 1984 is a big thing for Gorey or any club. Where are ya going mentioning Mc and all stars. No one knows better than him that he didn't have a good year for Wexford but he didn't nominate himself and he didn't just stop. Obviously he's had to get back amongst his own and train hard til his form comes back. That's what top players do. Perhaps his scores in the league in wet and foggy salt hill and against limerick in cold wexford park and cold and wet Offaly got him a nomination. You probably didn't see those games as like a lot of posters on here you think the season only starts in June if they win. The facts are yesterday was a big day for Gorey and Mac made a difference. As Henry Shefflin said even he'd hate to be playing in the Wexford forwards at the moment. Form is temporary class is forever."
Yes I'll agree he was class yesterday, but the point I'm making is that Oylegate went out and tried their best to hurl him and not one Oylegate player tried to rough him up, whereas Gorey at every chance were battering the Oylegate lads of the ball before they decided to hurl, the 3 player attack on Podge Doran was a disgrace. If the tables were turned and we had seen McDonald been subjected to this treatment imagine the out cry.
Referee had no balls and should be retired.
Didn't make it up to Galway but got to as many matches as I could (Walsh cup, league and championship).
Anyway best of luck to Gorey in the semi finals and roll on next year.

WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 382 - 24/09/2017 09:05:55    2049809

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