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Replying To 890202:  "Was in Bellefield for two awful games. Cloughbawn are only a shadow of the team they were last year yet they led by 2 with 15 mins to go but oylegate have been finishing their games very strongly and scored 1-05 without reply. Strong performers were mick heffernan, Shane reck, Marty Kelly and Seamus Casey.
Second game was a strange one. Glynn very rarely show any fight and heart but when they do they are one of the best teams in the county and they showed it for about 10 minutes today and it was enough to edge past a poor performance by the shels. Refereeing could have been better in both games. Shels goalkeeper pulled straight across the Glynn goalscorer when he was running out. Umpires and linesman saw it yet only a yellow was given. Madness.

Other senior results were unsurprising but I wasn't at the games so I can't comment much more other than to say I've been impressed with rathnure so far and I think the rapps have improved a lot from the first two rounds. Harriers and ferns is a vital game tomorrow, a loss for ferns could see them in the relegation final, while a loss for the harriers could see the rapps in the relegation final, most probably against Cloughbawn who were poor enough again today.

Intermediate- monageer continue their unbeatem run with another closely fought victory while a second loss for the shamrocks means that the winner between shamrocks and blackwater in the last game will most probably qualify. Adamstown have condemned Cushinstown to the relegation final in this grade.

In the other group a big win for st James over st Anne's, I did say that if they get it all together they can beat anyone and the must have got it together today."
Being to a few SCH games this year and have found the standard of refereeing to be poor and by intercounty referees in some cases, frees given for any sort of challenge and as a result the games are very stop start.

WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 382 - 27/08/2017 08:44:22    2038454

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Went to a lot of games over the weekend. The early starts are a reminder that the end of the championships are in sight and how much we will miss it. While some of the decisions made by referees appear to be bizarre at least they were consistent with both teams in the games I saw . On the whole referees umpires linesman do their best and as we all know it is a very thankless job.
Rapps did very well for most their game v Oulart while Gorey didn't get the rub of the green against the favourites Saint Martin's .
On a completely separate note I spoke to parents from three different clubs yesterday and today who were left very upset about the Wex under 16 team. Main problem seems to have been caused the posting on the Wex website which names certain players as playing and part of the panel and a short few hours later this was changed which resulted in a lot of upset youngsters and their families. While I am not suggesting there was any favouritism shown towards certain players it does begger the question what were the management doing making a major cock up like this and did they apologise. If youngsters are not treated with respect and fairly they will simply walk away be that with club or county.

Stratos (Wexford) - Posts: 37 - 28/08/2017 17:01:57    2039464

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unfortunately due to work,i did not make any games,but from a look at the weekends results,oylegate are the surprise package of the year so far.we should not be surprised,a good crop of young lads married with older more experienced heads,is a recipe for success.i think when they meet some of the big guns they might come a cropper,but they deserve great credit.
both groups going along as expected lines,but what has gone wrong with cloughban?finalists less than a year ago?now looking like relegation material?

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 28/08/2017 17:18:51    2039473

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Time to get the calculators ready as the most incredible final round of group games since the new format was introduced is on the horizon. With five of the six teams in group A able to finish on six points, and equally tight breathing space in Group B, the permutations are endless. Should be a thrilling weekend all told. I'm going to supply a winning margin in my predictions for the benefit of working out the QF pairings.

Starlights vs Sarsfields: Sars may want to build some semblance of momentum ahead of their relegation final, while Starlights realistically need a win to ensure their QF berth. The Bellefield men ran Castletown very close last day out even when without their two key men, so can't look past them winning by 4.

Castletown v Glynn: Castletown have suffered something of a dip in form in their last two games and need to regain confidence ahead of what should be a QF. Glynn have built back-to-back wins and will relish the chance of knock Castletown down a peg or two. The north county men are mathematically through barring an incredible sequence of results, and may be happy for a draw. Draw.

Shelmaliers v St.Annes: it would be just like St.Anne's to claw their way into the knock-outs despite being off colour for most of the season. Shels have now lost their last two games in both codes, but a draw will be sufficient for their progress. Tough enough one to call. Anne's by 1.

Final standings: Castletown, Shels, Stars, Annes

Fethard v Horeswood: the Ross derbies are endless. A three point win for Horeswood and a loss for Jimmies by the same margin will see the Campile men retain their status on score difference. Not out of the realms of possibility, but can't look past Fethard doing what's required with a 2 point win.

Taghmon v James: potentially the tie of the round. Literally a flip of a coin between them. James were in a similar situation two years ago and went on to win the title. Ramsgrange won't panic and should eke out a 2 point win here.

Martins v Gusserane: Martins are the one team can afford to take the foot off the gas given their relative security. A draw should be enough for Gusserane considering their superior score difference, but a loss could be disastrous for the champions. With that in mind, I tip Gusserane to win by 3.

Final standings: Martins, Gusserane, Fethard, James (H2H record v Taghmon).

QFs: Martins v Annes; Gusserane v Stars; Shels v Fethard; Castletown v Jimmies.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1424 - 30/08/2017 23:08:45    2040931

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Replying To beano:  "Time to get the calculators ready as the most incredible final round of group games since the new format was introduced is on the horizon. With five of the six teams in group A able to finish on six points, and equally tight breathing space in Group B, the permutations are endless. Should be a thrilling weekend all told. I'm going to supply a winning margin in my predictions for the benefit of working out the QF pairings.

Starlights vs Sarsfields: Sars may want to build some semblance of momentum ahead of their relegation final, while Starlights realistically need a win to ensure their QF berth. The Bellefield men ran Castletown very close last day out even when without their two key men, so can't look past them winning by 4.

Castletown v Glynn: Castletown have suffered something of a dip in form in their last two games and need to regain confidence ahead of what should be a QF. Glynn have built back-to-back wins and will relish the chance of knock Castletown down a peg or two. The north county men are mathematically through barring an incredible sequence of results, and may be happy for a draw. Draw.

Shelmaliers v St.Annes: it would be just like St.Anne's to claw their way into the knock-outs despite being off colour for most of the season. Shels have now lost their last two games in both codes, but a draw will be sufficient for their progress. Tough enough one to call. Anne's by 1.

Final standings: Castletown, Shels, Stars, Annes

Fethard v Horeswood: the Ross derbies are endless. A three point win for Horeswood and a loss for Jimmies by the same margin will see the Campile men retain their status on score difference. Not out of the realms of possibility, but can't look past Fethard doing what's required with a 2 point win.

Taghmon v James: potentially the tie of the round. Literally a flip of a coin between them. James were in a similar situation two years ago and went on to win the title. Ramsgrange won't panic and should eke out a 2 point win here.

Martins v Gusserane: Martins are the one team can afford to take the foot off the gas given their relative security. A draw should be enough for Gusserane considering their superior score difference, but a loss could be disastrous for the champions. With that in mind, I tip Gusserane to win by 3.

Final standings: Martins, Gusserane, Fethard, James (H2H record v Taghmon).

QFs: Martins v Annes; Gusserane v Stars; Shels v Fethard; Castletown v Jimmies."
Brilliant post..

Would expect Martins to beat Gusserane as I think the champions are short players this weekend.

Groundball (Wexford) - Posts: 122 - 31/08/2017 12:31:37    2041110

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Replying To Groundball:  "Brilliant post..

Would expect Martins to beat Gusserane as I think the champions are short players this weekend."
Not another holiday? ;)

On a serious note, I don't think we have ever had a better system than the 12 team championship. It guarantees every team at least 5 championship games, while 10 out of the 12 get at least 6 games. In both football and hurling we are seeing groups so tight that almost every team is able to qualify going into the last round. For example We were only 1 score away from askamore beating Bunclody in hurling which would have left every team in that group on 4 points going into the final round games. In football at senior we see tight matches every week with groups coming down to score difference. Isn't it a great way to have a championship

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 31/08/2017 13:04:07    2041131

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I just realised a technical glitch in my predictions above. Should the scenarios pan out, then Gusserane would finish second ahead of Fethard on the head-to-head ruling.

So QFs would be amended to Gusserane v Starlights and Fethard v Shels

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1424 - 31/08/2017 16:29:23    2041244

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My bad. I was correct all along :D

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1424 - 31/08/2017 16:30:04    2041246

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Replying To beano:  "Time to get the calculators ready as the most incredible final round of group games since the new format was introduced is on the horizon. With five of the six teams in group A able to finish on six points, and equally tight breathing space in Group B, the permutations are endless. Should be a thrilling weekend all told. I'm going to supply a winning margin in my predictions for the benefit of working out the QF pairings.

Starlights vs Sarsfields: Sars may want to build some semblance of momentum ahead of their relegation final, while Starlights realistically need a win to ensure their QF berth. The Bellefield men ran Castletown very close last day out even when without their two key men, so can't look past them winning by 4.

Castletown v Glynn: Castletown have suffered something of a dip in form in their last two games and need to regain confidence ahead of what should be a QF. Glynn have built back-to-back wins and will relish the chance of knock Castletown down a peg or two. The north county men are mathematically through barring an incredible sequence of results, and may be happy for a draw. Draw.

Shelmaliers v St.Annes: it would be just like St.Anne's to claw their way into the knock-outs despite being off colour for most of the season. Shels have now lost their last two games in both codes, but a draw will be sufficient for their progress. Tough enough one to call. Anne's by 1.

Final standings: Castletown, Shels, Stars, Annes

Fethard v Horeswood: the Ross derbies are endless. A three point win for Horeswood and a loss for Jimmies by the same margin will see the Campile men retain their status on score difference. Not out of the realms of possibility, but can't look past Fethard doing what's required with a 2 point win.

Taghmon v James: potentially the tie of the round. Literally a flip of a coin between them. James were in a similar situation two years ago and went on to win the title. Ramsgrange won't panic and should eke out a 2 point win here.

Martins v Gusserane: Martins are the one team can afford to take the foot off the gas given their relative security. A draw should be enough for Gusserane considering their superior score difference, but a loss could be disastrous for the champions. With that in mind, I tip Gusserane to win by 3.

Final standings: Martins, Gusserane, Fethard, James (H2H record v Taghmon).

QFs: Martins v Annes; Gusserane v Stars; Shels v Fethard; Castletown v Jimmies."
Super post. This really gives me a sense of the excitement I will be missing. I hope all the clubs have twitter hopping with updates for the games so.

hurlin101 (Wexford) - Posts: 104 - 31/08/2017 17:50:22    2041281

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My attempt
Starlights vs Sarsfields: Starlights seem to be doing plenty of football this year and would imagine this will result in a 5 point win against a sarsfields team destined for relagation. STARS

Castletown v Glynn: Castletown were one of the teams to beat at the beginning (still are). I feel Glynn are coming just at the right time again like they did last year however and can see them winning by 2. GLYNN

Shelmaliers v St.Annes: It would be just like Annes to get through, so i wont rule it out. However, I have seen Shels in earlier rounds and have been impressed. I fancy them to win by 3. SHELS

Final standings: Shels, Castletown, Starlights, Glynn

Fethard v Horeswood: Fethard got a great draw against a very impressive Martins team and then lost to a Gusserane team which seems to be struggling massively so impossible to know what they will do. However I feel horeswood are a team in decline and over reliant on PJ so I will give a hesitant vote to fethard by 1. FETHARD

Taghmon v James: Taghmon seem to be a team with real momentum and the Jason Ryan impact is obviously working. St James are another team which flatter to deceive at times and based on results in recent rounds I will say Taghmon by 4. TAGHMON

Martins v Gusserane: What would have been seen as tie of the round and potential top spot decider when the draw was made is now the one of the easiest games to decide. Martins Title favorites and from all accounts very keen on doing the double this year. Gusserane from what it seems are struggling hugely and the talk of missing players wont help matters. Martins by 7. MARTINS

Final standings: Martins, Taghmon, Fethard, Gusserane

QFs: Martins v Glynn, Taghmon v Starlights, Castletown v Fethard, Shels v Gusserane

Bold vote at saying the semi finalists will be...... Martins, Starlights, Castletown, Shels

hurlin101 (Wexford) - Posts: 104 - 31/08/2017 18:08:12    2041286

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Replying To hurlin101:  "My attempt
Starlights vs Sarsfields: Starlights seem to be doing plenty of football this year and would imagine this will result in a 5 point win against a sarsfields team destined for relagation. STARS

Castletown v Glynn: Castletown were one of the teams to beat at the beginning (still are). I feel Glynn are coming just at the right time again like they did last year however and can see them winning by 2. GLYNN

Shelmaliers v St.Annes: It would be just like Annes to get through, so i wont rule it out. However, I have seen Shels in earlier rounds and have been impressed. I fancy them to win by 3. SHELS

Final standings: Shels, Castletown, Starlights, Glynn

Fethard v Horeswood: Fethard got a great draw against a very impressive Martins team and then lost to a Gusserane team which seems to be struggling massively so impossible to know what they will do. However I feel horeswood are a team in decline and over reliant on PJ so I will give a hesitant vote to fethard by 1. FETHARD

Taghmon v James: Taghmon seem to be a team with real momentum and the Jason Ryan impact is obviously working. St James are another team which flatter to deceive at times and based on results in recent rounds I will say Taghmon by 4. TAGHMON

Martins v Gusserane: What would have been seen as tie of the round and potential top spot decider when the draw was made is now the one of the easiest games to decide. Martins Title favorites and from all accounts very keen on doing the double this year. Gusserane from what it seems are struggling hugely and the talk of missing players wont help matters. Martins by 7. MARTINS

Final standings: Martins, Taghmon, Fethard, Gusserane

QFs: Martins v Glynn, Taghmon v Starlights, Castletown v Fethard, Shels v Gusserane

Bold vote at saying the semi finalists will be...... Martins, Starlights, Castletown, Shels"
Going for wins for Shels, starlights, gusserane, fethard and 2 draws

Would leave QF as:

Martins v glynn
Gusserane v starlights
Taghmon v Castletown
Fethard v shels

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 31/08/2017 19:23:18    2041302

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Replying To wexico15:  "Going for wins for Shels, starlights, gusserane, fethard and 2 draws

Would leave QF as:

Martins v glynn
Gusserane v starlights
Taghmon v Castletown
Fethard v shels"
Gusserane are fairly average.

gahfan (Wexford) - Posts: 636 - 01/09/2017 08:20:04    2041465

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Replying To gahfan:  "Gusserane are fairly average."
Martins have nothing to play for, going for a double and a lot of there players have an u21 hurling county final coming up. Can't imagine they'll be fully tuned in

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 01/09/2017 10:09:20    2041494

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Replying To wexico15:  "Martins have nothing to play for, going for a double and a lot of there players have an u21 hurling county final coming up. Can't imagine they'll be fully tuned in"
Don't be surprised to see a few euro placed on Gusserane then

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 01/09/2017 12:13:06    2041538

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Replying To hurlin101:  "My attempt
Starlights vs Sarsfields: Starlights seem to be doing plenty of football this year and would imagine this will result in a 5 point win against a sarsfields team destined for relagation. STARS

Castletown v Glynn: Castletown were one of the teams to beat at the beginning (still are). I feel Glynn are coming just at the right time again like they did last year however and can see them winning by 2. GLYNN

Shelmaliers v St.Annes: It would be just like Annes to get through, so i wont rule it out. However, I have seen Shels in earlier rounds and have been impressed. I fancy them to win by 3. SHELS

Final standings: Shels, Castletown, Starlights, Glynn

Fethard v Horeswood: Fethard got a great draw against a very impressive Martins team and then lost to a Gusserane team which seems to be struggling massively so impossible to know what they will do. However I feel horeswood are a team in decline and over reliant on PJ so I will give a hesitant vote to fethard by 1. FETHARD

Taghmon v James: Taghmon seem to be a team with real momentum and the Jason Ryan impact is obviously working. St James are another team which flatter to deceive at times and based on results in recent rounds I will say Taghmon by 4. TAGHMON

Martins v Gusserane: What would have been seen as tie of the round and potential top spot decider when the draw was made is now the one of the easiest games to decide. Martins Title favorites and from all accounts very keen on doing the double this year. Gusserane from what it seems are struggling hugely and the talk of missing players wont help matters. Martins by 7. MARTINS

Final standings: Martins, Taghmon, Fethard, Gusserane

QFs: Martins v Glynn, Taghmon v Starlights, Castletown v Fethard, Shels v Gusserane

Bold vote at saying the semi finalists will be...... Martins, Starlights, Castletown, Shels"
Predictions were fairly decent..

Big surprise from last night was Adamstown getting such a beating by Ferns

Groundball (Wexford) - Posts: 122 - 02/09/2017 11:31:12    2041771

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St Martins v Glynn
Glynn had a poor start to the championship but seem to be hitting form or starting to find the form that got them to last years final at the right time of the year. They put in a very solid display to beat Castletown on Friday evening in St Patricks Park. St Martins have been almost flawless in getting to the last eight with their only slip up coming against Fethard however they were short a lot on that evening and a very good Fethard performance that evening saw that one end in parity. They have a serious pool of players and while Lyng and Waters are the ring leaders there is plenty of performers all around them. Physically Glynn can match St Martins, but I see this clash of Wexford district rivals going to St Martins by 4-5 points.
Castletown v Taghmon
Yet again the intermediate champions of the year before have made it to the last eight. In the last two seasons the intermediate winners have made it all the way to the final. Taghmon have ended up playing a Castletown team who are misfiring big time after a great start to the championship. Taghmon have youth on their side and a certain ignorance to the favorites tag which makes them very dangerous, they don't fear anyone and are well coached and well set up by Jason Ryan. Castletown on form are potential champions however form has eluded them on the last two outings. Taghmon's forwards are dangerous and there is goals in them with five over their past two games however Masterson is a very good keeper for Castletown. This has all the signs of raid by the underdog as ex Wexford managers Pat Roe and Jason Ryan go into battle on the line. Taghmon to win by 2 purely for the fact they will go into the game under no pressure to deliver.
Shelmaliers v Gusserane
The champions of 2016 are carrying a shaky run of form into the last eight with the loss of Adrian Flynn a disadvantage to the men in blue and gold. Shelmaliers have always knocked on the door in Senior Football but it time they started to kick the door down, they have the players and just need a bit more grit to see the deal through. A really hard game to call because even without Panther Gusserane have the potential to do damage with the two Cullen's and Mini both game winners on their day. Brian Malone and his crew can advance here by the odd point or two.
St James v Starlights.
The sides have met in 2015 and 2016 in the group stages with St James prevailing on both occasions having lost to the same opposition in an intermediate final in 2012 or 2013. Starlights have been very impressive this year with a solid plan in their game and this was evident when they should have beaten Castletown in the penultimate group game without Foley and Ryan who were away on holidays. Starlights were always in the shake up before relegation a few years ago and seemed to have refound their love for football. Also going decent in hurling and both can feed of each other as it has for St James in recent years. O'Hanlon and Ryan could be an interesting clash in this game, St James were poor v St Martins but much better v Taghmon while Starlights struggled for a while v Sarsfields. Another close game but recent experience in big games should see St James over the line by a point or two.
Relegation Final
Sad to see either of these two sides going down. Horeswood seem to be the better side having pushed St James to a draw, and beating Fethard in their final group game. On that evidence a win for the New Ross district men seems likely. The loss of a town team is worrying though for Wexford football and unless St Mary's replace them will see too many teams from the one area outside the top grade. Horeswood to have too much and maybe a stint in Intermediate might kick start a rebuilding phase for the Butters.

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 04/09/2017 11:57:58    2042504

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Preview of the weekend's final round of the SHC https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1378013788914092&id=170202166361933

WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 382 - 05/09/2017 21:49:49    2043177

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Predictions for the weekend

Senior Group A

Oylegate v Rathnure - Both teams already through but I think Rathnure could actually nick this one.
Buffers Alley v Shelmaliers - The Shels have to win to get through while the Alley are already through due to them having defeated Barntown earlier. I think the Alleys experience will come through on the day, Shels to finish 5th
Glynn v Cloughbawn - I think Glynn will win this and finish into 4th place.

Senior Group B
Rapps v Martins - Only one winner here, the Martins by 7 to 8 points.
Naomh Eanna v Harriers - I think the Gorey side will come through this struggle, all depending how they can curtail Chin.
Ferns v Oulart - Again, Oulart starting to hit there stride so Oulart by 6.

It will be a Rapps v Cloughbawn relegation final, hard to call from either team.

Intermediate Group A
Exciting finish to this group, any team could be in relegation bar Bunclody!

St. James v Askamore. A tricky one, if Askamore lose they will be in relegation while if St. James lose they could be in relegation also depending on the results. I think Askamore will get the win here, by 3 and I expect then James to finish bottom.
Craanford v St. Annes - I would feel there is nothing between these sides, James pulled off a brilliant result the last day beating the Annes but I think the Annes will still be in the final shake up come the end of the year so going for the Annes.
Bunclody v Ballygarrett - Going for a Bunclody win but I still think Ballygarrett should get through on score difference.

Intermediate Group B
Cushinstown v Monageer - Monageer shpuld win this handy as Cushinstown already in relegation. I'm expecting Cushinstown to be the team relegated this year.
Blackwater v Shamrocks - Blackwater need results to go there way to get through, I'm going for a hesitant win for Blackwater.
Crossbeg v Adamstown - Ballymurn win by 6.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 403 - 06/09/2017 08:52:50    2043264

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great match reports and previews lads.

comc (Wexford) - Posts: 108 - 06/09/2017 09:46:51    2043289

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Oylegate v Rathnure - Going for a hesitant vote for rathnure but it should really be a very tight game
Shels v Buffers Alley - I think the Shels will win in a very close and hard fought game
Glynn v Cloughbawn - I think the win the last day for Glynn will give them confidence but cloughbawn will fight tooth and nail to try avoid relegation, so i'll go for a draw

Oulart v Ferns - Oulart to win handy
Harriers v gorey - If the harriers avoid the bottom of the group i think they will be the most limited senior team ever to do so. I reckon gorey will win but not by a lot.
Rapps v St Martins - After a terrible start the rapps have improved immensely in their trouncing of ferns and they put it up to oulart for long enough too, so i think that, coupled with the fact that st martins have nothing to play for, will result in a very close game, but i still think St martins will win but i wouldnt be at all surprised to see the rapps win.

Prediction - Oulart v Buffers alley, St Martins v shels, Gorey v Oylegate, Harriers v Rathnure ... relegation rapps v cloughbawn with cloughbawn to go down

Intermediate
St James v Askamore - St James to win comfortably, askamores season has flattened out after a decent performance against Craanford
Craanford v St Annes - Hard to know which st annes team will turn up based on their previous results but ill give St annes a hesitant vote
Bunclody v Ballygarret - should be the pick of the games, but i expect bunclody to win in a reasonably high scoring affair

Monageer v Cushinstown - Match makes no difference to either team, but monageer are far the better side, however they dont seem to be able to beat a team by a big score. monageer by 5/6
Shamrocks v Blackwater - Im going to go for blackwater, i think they have developed a bit of a spirit and shamrocks are missing a few key men
Adamstown v Ballymurn - I expect adamstown to turn this into a tight low scoring game and i reckon they can just about get the win.

Prediction - Bunclody v Blackwater, Ballymurn v St James, Adamstown v St Annes, Monageer v Craanford ... Relegation - askamore v cushinstown


Intermediate A quarter finals - Fethard, Duffry, Oulart and Tara Rocks to win...Liam Mellows to be relegated
Junior Quarter finals - Rosslare, Gusserane, Horeswood and Bannow to win ... Harriers to be relegated
Junior A semi finals - St Martins and Ballyhogue to win
Ross district junior b final - Adamstown to win

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 06/09/2017 11:39:50    2043366

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