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I think we should move away from the holiday issue at this stage, I think its been discussed here to death. I see Wexford gaa are hosting fixture forums in the coming weeks and I think its a great opportunity for players/club members to air there views, I wonder how many people post here complaining will actually attend??. Fortunately the only way to know a definite fixture plan going forward is that teams play without county players and that not ever going to happen. The only other option would be to divide the year into the separate seasons. For the first 6 months, we have inter county championships and then the final 6 months is the club championships. This is the only way that players can get definite dates without worrying about county teams changing championship fixtures. Something like this would be too radical for the GAA and will never happen unfortunately. There is no reason why club championships cant be run over 4 to 5 months and then inter county championships done within the same period.
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irish people hate change,that is the ultimate problem.
personally,something like what alwaysasub proposes above,with a radically condensed inter county season,is the only way forward.the time of playing provincial championships over 10 weeks has to end.it could be played over 5.job done.
i love club matches and activity more than inter county activity in any case.the rivalries of old are gone because the inter county game has consumed the club game.
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 23/08/2017 14:39:19
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Replying To alwaysasub: "I think we should move away from the holiday issue at this stage, I think its been discussed here to death. I see Wexford gaa are hosting fixture forums in the coming weeks and I think its a great opportunity for players/club members to air there views, I wonder how many people post here complaining will actually attend??. Fortunately the only way to know a definite fixture plan going forward is that teams play without county players and that not ever going to happen. The only other option would be to divide the year into the separate seasons. For the first 6 months, we have inter county championships and then the final 6 months is the club championships. This is the only way that players can get definite dates without worrying about county teams changing championship fixtures. Something like this would be too radical for the GAA and will never happen unfortunately. There is no reason why club championships cant be run over 4 to 5 months and then inter county championships done within the same period." Only two representative from each club 1 adult and 1 underage are allowed attend.
mrfox (Wexford) - Posts: 338 - 23/08/2017 15:09:06
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Replying To mrfox: "Only two representative from each club 1 adult and 1 underage are allowed attend." And why don't you talk to your co. board rep so? Oh sorry, I forgot you had no solution other than the players being a disgrace!
Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 23/08/2017 15:22:57
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Replying To Pinkie: "And why don't you talk to your co. board rep so? Oh sorry, I forgot you had no solution other than the players being a disgrace!" County board rep can not run with proposals on his own. If you were a club member then the route to take is to send your proposal to the club secretary and they would brings it up at an executive meeting of the club. The executive committee then decide to let it go forward. I'd said I'd explain it to you so you can forward your suggestions about co players not playing the club championship and see how far it gets.
mrfox (Wexford) - Posts: 338 - 23/08/2017 16:19:34
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Replying To mrfox: "County board rep can not run with proposals on his own. If you were a club member then the route to take is to send your proposal to the club secretary and they would brings it up at an executive meeting of the club. The executive committee then decide to let it go forward. I'd said I'd explain it to you so you can forward your suggestions about co players not playing the club championship and see how far it gets." Well it is better than any suggestion you came up with!
Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 23/08/2017 16:52:40
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Replying To Pinkie: "Well it is better than any suggestion you came up with!" Well done
mrfox (Wexford) - Posts: 338 - 23/08/2017 18:09:18
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Replying To mrfox: "County board rep can not run with proposals on his own. If you were a club member then the route to take is to send your proposal to the club secretary and they would brings it up at an executive meeting of the club. The executive committee then decide to let it go forward. I'd said I'd explain it to you so you can forward your suggestions about co players not playing the club championship and see how far it gets." Full of facts now. Suits now i suppose.
hurler101 (Wexford) - Posts: 471 - 23/08/2017 22:02:26
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Replying To hurler101: "Full of facts now. Suits now i suppose." Believe me it dose not suit when my club is let down by its county player's
mrfox (Wexford) - Posts: 338 - 23/08/2017 22:36:25
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Replying To hurler101: "Full of facts now. Suits now i suppose." full of facts,empty on proposals.
what is your attitude to lads going to america for the summer mrfox?are they a disgrace too?because they are all in vegas for the mcgregor fight too.is that ok?
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 23/08/2017 22:37:52
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Replying To perfect10: "full of facts,empty on proposals.
what is your attitude to lads going to america for the summer mrfox?are they a disgrace too?because they are all in vegas for the mcgregor fight too.is that ok?" Clutching at straws lads accept it for what it is.
mrfox (Wexford) - Posts: 338 - 23/08/2017 23:40:03
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Replying To perfect10: "full of facts,empty on proposals.
what is your attitude to lads going to america for the summer mrfox?are they a disgrace too?because they are all in vegas for the mcgregor fight too.is that ok?" Apple's and Oranges.
Players already get far more games now than they ever did in the past, the issue is the timing of them. Why not.play the league through the summer with or without country players and the the championship is based on a knockout seeded based on the league
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1806 - 24/08/2017 00:39:04
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Replying To perfect10: "full of facts,empty on proposals.
what is your attitude to lads going to america for the summer mrfox?are they a disgrace too?because they are all in vegas for the mcgregor fight too.is that ok?" The general perception on here is that people understand that your club comes first. If you don't that's fair enough.
mrfox (Wexford) - Posts: 338 - 24/08/2017 09:39:48
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Replying To mrfox: "The general perception on here is that people understand that your club comes first. If you don't that's fair enough." There is more to life than GAA, the club, the parish and if you don't understand that, then you need to get out of the 1950s.
Young lads now will travel, will holiday, etc and if the GAA can't offer them a decent set of fixtures which they can plan a life around they will walk away. That is 21st century Ireland. Time to get with it. The die hard years are now gone. The GAA needs to adapt to the changing attitude of young people.
I think there is nothing more to add to this argument.
Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 24/08/2017 11:24:44
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This thread has gone very stale with all this talk of holidays etc...
Lads they went at the expense of a football match, not a hurling one. Their choice that they didn't want to be around for the football and I'd be in the same boat as at the end of the day it's just a way of keeping fit for the hurling. Football should be on a separate - side section of this forum and let the hurling talk go ahead
Wex86 (Wexford) - Posts: 224 - 24/08/2017 12:04:23
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Replying To alwaysasub: "I think we should move away from the holiday issue at this stage, I think its been discussed here to death. I see Wexford gaa are hosting fixture forums in the coming weeks and I think its a great opportunity for players/club members to air there views, I wonder how many people post here complaining will actually attend??. Fortunately the only way to know a definite fixture plan going forward is that teams play without county players and that not ever going to happen. The only other option would be to divide the year into the separate seasons. For the first 6 months, we have inter county championships and then the final 6 months is the club championships. This is the only way that players can get definite dates without worrying about county teams changing championship fixtures. Something like this would be too radical for the GAA and will never happen unfortunately. There is no reason why club championships cant be run over 4 to 5 months and then inter county championships done within the same period." Good post
Groundball (Wexford) - Posts: 122 - 24/08/2017 12:12:27
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Replying To Wex86: "This thread has gone very stale with all this talk of holidays etc...
Lads they went at the expense of a football match, not a hurling one. Their choice that they didn't want to be around for the football and I'd be in the same boat as at the end of the day it's just a way of keeping fit for the hurling. Football should be on a separate - side section of this forum and let the hurling talk go ahead" Sure there would be no need to have football on a "side-section" to this forum if you got your way and "every big ball in the county was burst" !!!
yelowbelly (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 24/08/2017 12:35:02
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Enough of this to and fro bickering and knuckle-dragging. Amid all the arguments, the football championship went off without a hitch last week, and left things finely poised, particularly at senior. The spotlight refocuses on the hurling now, with a number of crucial games up for decision.
Oylegate vs Cloughbawn: Oylegate can secure their top seed status with a win here. Cloughbawn's misery was extended in a loss in a poor game vs the Alley the last day out, and they have compiled the lowest tally in the "for" bracket so far- 45 accumulative points over three games. Oylegate are actually the highest scorers after three rounds, which is impressive when considering how well Martin's are playing in the other group. Oylegate to continue their rise up the ranks.
Glynn vs Shelmaliers: Glynn's season hasn't gone to plan yet, and are in "must-win" territory now after three defeats in as many games. Shels read 1W-1D-1L from the same number of games, and combined the routine against Cloughbawn with the dogged against Rathnure. Shels are unquestionably in better form, but I am going to tip Glynn for the win that will give them a fighting chance of progression in the final round.
Buffers Alley-Rathnure: a throw-back to the glory-days between two traditional heavyweights. Rathnure have unearthed a few tidy young hurlers, while the Alley's stock is gradually on the rise too after a couple of underwhelming campaigns. They will feel they left the Oylegate game behind them, and may also feel that they haven't shown their true worth in either of their wins. They always raise their game against the Blackstairs men, who themselves have rediscovered the determination that makes them difficult to beat. Hard game to call. Buffers Alley by 2
Rapparees-Oulart: Rapparees really laid down a marker with their mauling of Ferns last day out. The seventeen-point margin may say more about the state of Ferns than the quality of Rapps though. But that's not to take away from a vital win in a water-tight group, and they should glean confidence. Oulart have compiled back-to-back wins since the opening day shock to Martin's but seem to be shipping more scores than usual. Still though, hard to look past Oulart booking their QF place with a win here.
Ferns-Harriers: Given the relative struggles of Ferns, a win here will still have them in the mix for the knock-outs. They currently have the joint-leakest defence (along with Glynn) with 74 conceded, although a lot of that can be explained by their hammering to Rapps the last day. Lee Chin seems to be on a one-man mission to keep his side's senior status intact, and will be centrally to the Harriers again. Both sides are desperate for a win, but I'm going to go for a draw, which will make things extremely interesting in round 5.
St.Martin's- Naomh Eanna: One would feel sorry for Gorey having to play Ouart and Martins consecutively. It's hard to build any sort of momentum when your sole win is followed by games by the top two in market. Martin's have shown real pedigree so far, and it's frightening to think how high their ceiling could be given the average-age of the starting fifteen. Martin's to win with a bit to spare, leaving Gorey needing to beat the Harriers in their last game in order to sneak a qualification place.
Intermediate
Cushinstown v Adamstown: Adamstown
Crossabeg v Shamrocks: Crossabeg
Blackwater v Monageer: Monageer
James v Anne's: Draw
Craanford v Ballygarrett: Ballygarrett
Askamore v Bunclody: Draw
beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1424 - 24/08/2017 12:56:57
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Replying To Pinkie: "There is more to life than GAA, the club, the parish and if you don't understand that, then you need to get out of the 1950s.
Young lads now will travel, will holiday, etc and if the GAA can't offer them a decent set of fixtures which they can plan a life around they will walk away. That is 21st century Ireland. Time to get with it. The die hard years are now gone. The GAA needs to adapt to the changing attitude of young people.
I think there is nothing more to add to this argument." Except that county players in other counties have not done what happened in our county last wend
mrfox (Wexford) - Posts: 338 - 24/08/2017 14:43:23
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Replying To mrfox: "Except that county players in other counties have not done what happened in our county last wend" How do you know this is true? I know with 100% certainty that someone off tipperarys starting 15 in hurling missed a hurling club championship game last September as he went to Spain for a week with his other half.
While it wasn't fair on the clubs involved last weekend it's not accurate to say it's a issue exclusive to wexford
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 24/08/2017 15:35:06
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