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Manor just going through transition. Happens all good teams.

Drumkeerin vs Gort - Drumkeerin got a rude awakening last week. But are a team on the up. Gort just about got over a disinterested Marys which doesn't give me great confidence in them... Drumkeerin by 2

Melvin Gaels vs Mohill - The big game of weekend. Gaels buoyed by Milligans return will push the champions. Mohills sharpness and greater scoring options will win out in end. Mohill by 4

Dromahair vs Allen gaels - Two similar mid table teams. Allen gaels may have a bit more. Draw

Aughasheelin vs Ballinamore - Two decent teams moving well. Ballinamore should have more class and power. Ballinamore by 6

Aughawillan vs Fenagh - Either fenagh are poor or ballinamore very good. In any case the willies are gonna insert similar punishment. Willies by 10

Piratehooker (Leitrim) - Posts: 197 - 15/04/2017 14:15:46    1979550

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St Mary's are a joke, largest club in County unable to field for a division one league match???!!!!???

totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 916 - 15/04/2017 18:43:43    1979655

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Early stages yet but Mohill , Aughawillan and Ballinamore look the team's to beat this year. Surprised Melvin gaels got such a beating they have a lot of work to do to be contenders as do Manor. Mary's look in complete disarray. Gortletteragh won well but don't have enough up front i think to beat the top teams. Allen gaels look in a bit of trouble too, would have been expecting to beat Dromahair who've lost a few very key players this year.

green.and.gold (Leitrim) - Posts: 427 - 15/04/2017 20:54:31    1979709

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Replying To green.and.gold:  "Early stages yet but Mohill , Aughawillan and Ballinamore look the team's to beat this year. Surprised Melvin gaels got such a beating they have a lot of work to do to be contenders as do Manor. Mary's look in complete disarray. Gortletteragh won well but don't have enough up front i think to beat the top teams. Allen gaels look in a bit of trouble too, would have been expecting to beat Dromahair who've lost a few very key players this year."
What happened with Mary's conceding. Mohill gave Melvin a lesson in positive football tonight. Good to see willies and ballinamore at top with mohill. 3 good young teams who play football with a very skill based attitude. Hope Manor can prove me wrong but I think we may be beginning to see the decline of the dominance they have had in league for previous decade.

leitrimnproud (Leitrim) - Posts: 17 - 15/04/2017 23:27:29    1979763

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Biggest townland in Leitrim couldnt pull out fifteen players for a game. Joke. Ballinamore going strong, giving the neighbours a good rattle once again. Without Brian Beirne i dont think they would be as persistent up front. Be interesting now to see there line up come championship when the likes of Dom is back fully fit. Gort easing a win over Drumkeerin, really goes to show you the huge divide in the league between the weaker teams and the rest. Mohill looking very prominent, good to see them turn over a progressing melvin gaels side. Was mulligan out at the weekend can anyone tell me? Dromahair with an impressive win over a deflated Allen gaels side, who arent going anywhere this year except to henrys. Willies obviously beating fenagh comfortably, no surprise there, look forward to them playing some of the stronger teams in the coming weeks to see how they get on.

LENOVO (Australia) - Posts: 38 - 17/04/2017 14:25:11    1980138

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The standard is shocking anyway. Someone said Club football in Leitrim has the best teams playing in 20 years. Nonsense. 20 years ago, the likes of St. Mary's and Allen Gaels were getting to Connacht Club finals and giving a competitive games to the likes of Clan na Gael and Corofin. We're light years from that

festy_o_semtex (UK) - Posts: 67 - 17/04/2017 18:25:49    1980197

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Melvin Gaels allegedly missing 6 starters from the team that beat Manor. Doesn't look good for a club like Carrick when their second team concedes 10 goals in a match and then their 1st team concede the following weekend.

Dodgy_Pass (Leitrim) - Posts: 374 - 17/04/2017 23:04:33    1980275

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Replying To Dodgy_Pass:  "Melvin Gaels allegedly missing 6 starters from the team that beat Manor. Doesn't look good for a club like Carrick when their second team concedes 10 goals in a match and then their 1st team concede the following weekend."
Their second team conceded the division 2 game yesterday too. Anyone know what's going on there must be trouble in the club maybe?

green.and.gold (Leitrim) - Posts: 427 - 18/04/2017 00:24:15    1980291

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Yes it's a very worrying state carrick are in at the minute. Was in murtaghs Sunday night for a few beers and I recognised one of the carrick lads the far side of the bar, anyways moved on to paddys bar afterwards and she was swinging, didn't the same man come over and sit down beside me. Anyways we got chatting for a while and he was going on about how much of a low their football is at. He said he never seen it worse. Especially worrying when it's coming from themselves.

Fr.spodo_gamodo (Leitrim) - Posts: 184 - 18/04/2017 09:12:16    1980324

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Replying To festy_o_semtex:  "The standard is shocking anyway. Someone said Club football in Leitrim has the best teams playing in 20 years. Nonsense. 20 years ago, the likes of St. Mary's and Allen Gaels were getting to Connacht Club finals and giving a competitive games to the likes of Clan na Gael and Corofin. We're light years from that"
I agree we are light years behind the other Connacht clubs, we are deluding ourselves if we say standard is better. Apart from Melvin Gaels a few years back when they ran Mayo champs to extra time in Intermediate , Leitrim teams have been next to useless in Connacht club. I cant see that changing in the near future, but I suppose the show must go on.

Buzzcagney62 (Leitrim) - Posts: 217 - 18/04/2017 09:51:17    1980335

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The last 10 Connacht club championships have been won by Corofin, St. Brigids and Castlebar Mitchell's. Leitrim clubs have been well beaten by these teams in the competition when they have met. A look at club championships in Galway, Roscommon and Mayo also shows that these clubs have really hammered everyone they've played bar a couple of exceptions.

On the couple of occasions that Leitrim clubs have avoided these super powers they have acquitted themselves well most notably Aughawillan beating the Sligo champions in 2014. Melvin Gaels and Sean O'Heislins have also represented the county well at intermediate level over the past couple of years as have the Melvin Gaels minors.

Basically what I'm saying is that Leitrim clubs are miles behind Corofin, St. Brigids and Castlebar Mitchell's but so are the rest of the clubs in Connacht with the exception of possibly Ballintubber and Breaffy. The top Leitrim clubs are on a par with the best of the rest in Connacht. This is obvious when clubs play challenge games outside of the county.

Dan_Toal (Leitrim) - Posts: 240 - 19/04/2017 13:46:38    1980785

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How do we get our clubs up to the standard of the top clubs in other counties is the real question. Do this and then our county team starts winning big time

leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 644 - 19/04/2017 15:28:39    1980828

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If we go further back before these 3 big clubs were on top, the 2 other teams to win Connacht club titles were Salthill Knocknacarra and Ballina Stephenites. What do these 5 clubs have in common?? They are situated in large urban areas or are suburbs of urban areas, they all have populations of 20+ thousand in their catchment areas. They are all well supported financially, Emigration dosnt effect these areas unlike rural Leitrim. Stats are there to be proved wrong but these suggest that it's nion impossible nowadays for Leitrim clubs to be successful at the top table in Connacht.

Dan_Toal (Leitrim) - Posts: 240 - 19/04/2017 21:13:38    1980927

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Replying To Dan_Toal:  "If we go further back before these 3 big clubs were on top, the 2 other teams to win Connacht club titles were Salthill Knocknacarra and Ballina Stephenites. What do these 5 clubs have in common?? They are situated in large urban areas or are suburbs of urban areas, they all have populations of 20+ thousand in their catchment areas. They are all well supported financially, Emigration dosnt effect these areas unlike rural Leitrim. Stats are there to be proved wrong but these suggest that it's nion impossible nowadays for Leitrim clubs to be successful at the top table in Connacht."
If ya were to look at Leitrim teams, the one team that should be competing at Connacht with the numbers, resources and calibre of players they have to offer surely must be mohill. I'd say nearly all of their players have represented Leitrim at some stage which no other team comes close with. But sure what good is talking about competing at Connacht when they cant dominate Leitrim football. Mohills biggest problem is theres one player letting them down, we all know who he is - self doubt.

Fr.spodo_gamodo (Leitrim) - Posts: 184 - 20/04/2017 08:26:43    1981016

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Replying To Dan_Toal:  "If we go further back before these 3 big clubs were on top, the 2 other teams to win Connacht club titles were Salthill Knocknacarra and Ballina Stephenites. What do these 5 clubs have in common?? They are situated in large urban areas or are suburbs of urban areas, they all have populations of 20+ thousand in their catchment areas. They are all well supported financially, Emigration dosnt effect these areas unlike rural Leitrim. Stats are there to be proved wrong but these suggest that it's nion impossible nowadays for Leitrim clubs to be successful at the top table in Connacht."
This immigration issue has been used by Leitrim team and club teams for years. Quite frankly its like a scratched record by now. Leitrim isn't the only county that suffers immigration , yet I cant remember any other county beating that drum as strong as Leitrim. How come a small club team like Mullingeachta in Longford can beat Laois champions and run St Vincents Dublin to a few points? Quite simply its coaching. fitness, and a good shrewd Manager who gets the best out of his players, sadly something that is lacking in Leitrim.

Buzzcagney62 (Leitrim) - Posts: 217 - 20/04/2017 08:35:57    1981019

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There is a distinct lack of hunger in young Leitrim players to go the extra yard that might see them reach parity with average clubs in neighbouring counties. These players scoff at S&C forgetting that 15 years ago players didn't have to do it, like Ciaran Mcdonald they got enough of it naturally on the building sites. Then the gurus came and said no need for any hard running just ball work will carry you, music to the ears of the lazy player who cares more for his looks than battling hard in case of defeat. It is an attitude problem mainly, we as Leitrim people have our excuses made before we start. No people, no money and then no point in trying. All I will say is how come the Willies win 2 of the last 3 senior champs in Leitrim when population puts them at a serious disadvantage. Longford has barely more people and they can win against the odds every second year. Wicklow and Waterford have been our only scalps in recent years.
But change must come from the top. Our Co Board take ideas from Croke Park never thinking of modifying them to suit us. The recent appointments stink of doing it on the cheap. Same heads running the academies(poorly). Club fixtures increased when senior games are not being fulfilled. There is no thinking in the county and certainly no talking to the most crucial cog in the system, THE PLAYERS.

bananapublican (Leitrim) - Posts: 878 - 21/04/2017 07:59:17    1981329

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Personally i would agree with FR spodo gamodo on self doubt letting mohil down- well said

LENOVO (Australia) - Posts: 38 - 21/04/2017 12:14:47    1981425

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Replying To Buzzcagney62:  "This immigration issue has been used by Leitrim team and club teams for years. Quite frankly its like a scratched record by now. Leitrim isn't the only county that suffers immigration , yet I cant remember any other county beating that drum as strong as Leitrim. How come a small club team like Mullingeachta in Longford can beat Laois champions and run St Vincents Dublin to a few points? Quite simply its coaching. fitness, and a good shrewd Manager who gets the best out of his players, sadly something that is lacking in Leitrim."
Laois are a division 4 county. Aughawillan beating the Sligo champions is on a par with Mullinalaghta beating Stradbally. A tired Vincent's side then beat them by 7.

There are a lot of club and county players currently working very hard on their games but some people seem to thrive on negativity, belittling people and their efforts. Some Leitrim clubs are making huge progress despite limited resources. Negative attitudes and narrow mindedness are the biggest thing holding back Leitrim football.

Dan_Toal (Leitrim) - Posts: 240 - 21/04/2017 17:58:24    1981538

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Replying To Dan_Toal:  "Laois are a division 4 county. Aughawillan beating the Sligo champions is on a par with Mullinalaghta beating Stradbally. A tired Vincent's side then beat them by 7.

There are a lot of club and county players currently working very hard on their games but some people seem to thrive on negativity, belittling people and their efforts. Some Leitrim clubs are making huge progress despite limited resources. Negative attitudes and narrow mindedness are the biggest thing holding back Leitrim football."
You call it narrow mindedness and negativity , I call it reality. Fact, Leitrim are in division 4 and nothing in this years campaign would suggest to me they will be promoted next year and I attended most of the games.
Fact, I also attended Aughawillan and Ballinamore Connacht club games and it was Corofin and Westport who looked tired, as neither never got out of first gear yet managed to win without breaking sweat. I attended the past 2 years county finals and the standard of football was shocking. I don't doubt teams are working hard but it doesn't show on big match days. A bit of criticism never harmed anyone, and as a fan of Leitrim club and county football I am fed up of us always losing.

Buzzcagney62 (Leitrim) - Posts: 217 - 22/04/2017 13:58:13    1981664

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Gortlettragh vs Manor
Good test for both teams. Manor will want to prove theres lots left in tank yet. Manor by 4

Drumkeerin vs Fenagh
Real four pointer. Drumkeerin unlucky last weekend. If they can iron out the wides should get first win. Drumkeerin by 3

Aughawillan vs Aughnasheelin
The willies doing enough so far. They will do similar job this week against a weak aughnasheelin. Willies by 5

Melvin Gaels vs Dromahair
Testy north leitrim clash. The gaels will want to get back to their first round form after the humbling loss last weekend.Dromahair have lots of quality themselves. Draw

Marys vs Mohill
On paper should be clear sailing. All the talk around carrick being down could spur a reaction. In end mohill should have too much class though. Mohill by 5

Ballinamore vs Allen Gaels
Another match easy to read. But allen gaels will want to get something before the break. Dont think ballinamore will be too accomodating though. Ballinamore by 5

Piratehooker (Leitrim) - Posts: 197 - 22/04/2017 17:09:16    1981702

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