Meath Forum

Meath versus Galway

(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post


Replying To Barney123:  "As I said before i'm nearly sure paddy would love to kick a short kick out to one of the backs but nobody is looking for the ball so what is he to do? Kick to a lad standing still and he'll probably lose the ball? When joey and eamon made a run to get away from their marker POR did kick it to them, this is something that needs to be worked on by management. I also think the players could be at fault if you notice when paddy puts the ball on the ground to be kicked out look how many players have their backed turned to the ball or just stand still waiting for him to hit it long. 2 or 3 players should be making a run looking for the short kick out.

It needs to be sorted out if we want to be anyway competitive in big games in the championship and league,"
I agree something needs to be done to limit the amount of long kick outs in to midfield area where we are weakest. ie take quicker kick outs Galway took a lot of short kick outs and even some more longer kick outs accurate that found there men. We seem to slow to take a quick out. Yet slow to mark the opposition on there kick out. Its killing us IMO. So we need to be quicker taking our lick outs and quicker to mark up on the oppositions.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 06/03/2017 13:46:25    1964574

Link

Very important win yesterday, not only because the division is getting very tight but to give the lads a bit of confidence. We were poor throughout the second half which is a worry but we finished strong which was great to see and O'Sullivans pass for the goal was excellent. Lenihan, Harnan, O'Sullivans Power, Keogan (as usual) and a few others all played well and it was good to see D Tobin back.

Kickouts are a concern, unfortunately Paddy is a liability from short kickouts and it looked like we just abandoned them against Galway. Paddy just launched them down field for 50/50 contests, that's not really going to be good enough come summer, we must have a better plan.

Delighted to get the win though, keeps us away from the bottom for now.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 06/03/2017 14:13:57    1964589

Link

Replying To bobkarlgees:  "I agree something needs to be done to limit the amount of long kick outs in to midfield area where we are weakest. ie take quicker kick outs Galway took a lot of short kick outs and even some more longer kick outs accurate that found there men. We seem to slow to take a quick out. Yet slow to mark the opposition on there kick out. Its killing us IMO. So we need to be quicker taking our lick outs and quicker to mark up on the oppositions."
HERE HERE i THINK WE EVEN SHOULD INVENT A NEW MEASUREMENT FOR THIS TEAM "RESPONSE TIME" COVERING ALL THE THINGS YOU MENTION THERE,AND EVERYTHING ELSE WHERE WE NEED TO SHARPEN OUR RESONSE.........i CAN SEE ANDY ASKING why did you not face the kick out? why were you behind your marker? Why did you not anticipate their quick free there???? etc etc.

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1227 - 06/03/2017 14:14:45    1964591

Link

Great win yesterday considering the performance in Newry. Full back line was outstanding. Half back line power was fantastic along with Harnan, Carry attacked well but didn't see enough of him defending to judge how good he really is. Breaking ball is an issue I feel. Midfield solid again physical, would still question toher on the ball done a few hail Mary's instead of laying off. Half forward line done a lot of damage in the first half forde played some lovely passes in which leninhan moped up. Himself & Sullivan linked well throw biggy into the mix on a good day and we've serious movers who'll cause problems for any team. Roc worked hard he'll improve with more game time seen he took a knock. Lenihan fantastic really like his style along with Tobin coming on who won vital possession. McMahon will come good. Hoping no one picked up any injuries and get another game with clubs this weekend. Great opportunity heading down to Cork but time will tell.

Ketchup (Meath) - Posts: 22 - 06/03/2017 15:04:22    1964628

Link

Great win yesterday considering the performance in Newry. Full back line was outstanding. Half back line power was fantastic along with Harnan, Carry attacked well but didn't see enough of him defending to judge how good he really is. Breaking ball is an issue I feel. Midfield solid again physical, would still question toher on the ball done a few hail Mary's instead of laying off. Half forward line done a lot of damage in the first half forde played some lovely passes in which leninhan moped up. Himself & Sullivan linked well throw biggy into the mix on a good day and we've serious movers who'll cause problems for any team. Roc worked hard he'll improve with more game time seen he took a knock. Lenihan fantastic really like his style along with Tobin coming on who won vital possession. McMahon will come good. Hoping no one picked up any injuries and get another game with clubs this weekend. Great opportunity heading down to Cork but time will tell.

Ketchup (Meath) - Posts: 22 - 06/03/2017 15:45:16    1964654

Link

Great win yesterday considering the performance in Newry. Full back line was outstanding. Half back line power was fantastic along with Harnan, Carry attacked well but didn't see enough of him defending to judge how good he really is. Breaking ball is an issue I feel. Midfield solid again physical, would still question toher on the ball done a few hail Mary's instead of laying off. Half forward line done a lot of damage in the first half forde played some lovely passes in which leninhan moped up. Himself & Sullivan linked well throw biggy into the mix on a good day and we've serious movers who'll cause problems for any team. Roc worked hard he'll improve with more game time seen he took a knock. Lenihan fantastic really like his style along with Tobin coming on who won vital possession. McMahon will come good. Hoping no one picked up any injuries and get another game with clubs this weekend. Great opportunity heading down to Cork but time will tell.

Ketchup (Meath) - Posts: 22 - 06/03/2017 15:45:23    1964655

Link

Replying To Richieq:  "Oh I'm not going to say it will happen at all, it's just laying the fixtures out min response to RD's question more so. This division, and in particular our own performances, have been too erratic to be any way certain about anything. The fact that we could still possibly be promoted after a hiding against Kildare and an awful performance against Down shows what an unpredictable mystery this Division is, having said that I don't think beating Cork is impossible as they too have some consistency issues and a bit more besides but we will need to focus on all positives of yesterday and enhance them again to win down there. I'm just glad we got the win yesterday and moved away from the bottom and showed some good old fashioned guts and determination in the process."
Richie appreciate the info. The only reason I had asked was everyone I spoke to or anything I have read or heard said if Meath won remaining games Meath were promoted however that is not correct by my calculations using Kildare Meath and Galway, so therefore it's unfortunately not In our own hands. Not saying we would win every remaining game , just pointing out if we did and still missed out it would be gutting.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 06/03/2017 16:31:05    1964686

Link

Replying To bobkarlgees:  "Ok that would make. But did Deegan know that ? Or did Deegan just make up his send Burke back of the pitch himself ? Did the fourth official alert the ref to the fact there no ticket given ?"
The officials at inter county level are miked up so Deegan would have had it said to him in his earpiece.

jackhackett (Meath) - Posts: 773 - 06/03/2017 16:43:34    1964691

Link

Replying To jackhackett:  "The officials at inter county level are miked up so Deegan would have had it said to him in his earpiece."
Yeah, I know they are but your just guessing. Deegan wasn't doing anything to help Meath anyway especially second half.
This is the same Deegan that was working the side line and over ruled the umpire in 2012 I think it was when Meath played Dublin and O'Gara scored a perfectly good point that the umpire waved. That's good work from the linesman I hear you. Until you realize that Deegan looked at the big screen and then told the ref it was a point. Surely a so called TOP referee should know the basic rule that video technology is not allowed in GAA.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 06/03/2017 19:59:42    1964788

Link

http://www.tg4.ie/en/player/home/?pid=5350095852001&teideal=GAA%202017%20&series=GAA%202017

Highlights are there first up; some of the point scoring looks even better watching second time around.

dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 07/03/2017 15:24:03    1965070

Link

Replying To dunboynelad:  "http://www.tg4.ie/en/player/home/?pid=5350095852001&teideal=GAA%202017%20&series=GAA%202017

Highlights are there first up; some of the point scoring looks even better watching second time around."
thanks for that,what a quality pass for the goal and some great shooting from leno,looks better when you see them here.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/03/2017 16:11:56    1965108

Link

They dropped brian sherdian and shane mc and we won. Obvouis what had to be done

Bigballer30 (Meath) - Posts: 16 - 07/03/2017 16:25:29    1965121

Link

Replying To Bigballer30:  "They dropped brian sherdian and shane mc and we won. Obvouis what had to be done"
We hockeyed Derry with both in the team and performing well so that's nonsense.

I don't think Sheridan is in our top two inside forwards personally but he's been there because no one available have made a serious claim for that jersey as of yet, that's not his fault so the criticism is unfair. It'll be most likely Newmans but for now Andy can only pick from what's there.

As for Shane Mac, he was injured not dropped, and his criticism on here is silly and comes across as agenda stuff, if anyone think him or James for that matter will get favorable treatment off Andy and Gerry they're talking absolute nonsense and really don't know our management team very well.

dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 07/03/2017 18:21:56    1965174

Link

Replying To ziggy32001:  "thanks for that,what a quality pass for the goal and some great shooting from leno,looks better when you see them here."
Yes Leno was class, for people who watch our SFC regularly it's only showing what we knew all along. It's been a while since we had a forward who can kick with ease off either foot anywhere inside the 40, if we continue to click in there we have a real asset on our hands. You still see the word inconsistent pop up in here but he's been arguably our best player in three out of our four games with one off day against Derry.

It's very encouraging if Biggy can be kept quiet and we still have enough scoring power to get over the line against a good team. With COS and Forde there, opposition will have more to think about than just Biggy now. If McMahon and Wallace can find form, and Newman gets back fit, all of a sudden we are looking fairly healthy in there when only a few weeks ago we looked desperately short.

It was never going to happen overnight nor could we expect miracles but maybe, just maybe Andy Macs magic is starting to rub off. For now, if we continue to see performances like Sunday I'll be more than pleased.

dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 07/03/2017 18:51:35    1965185

Link

Replying To dunboynelad:  "Yes Leno was class, for people who watch our SFC regularly it's only showing what we knew all along. It's been a while since we had a forward who can kick with ease off either foot anywhere inside the 40, if we continue to click in there we have a real asset on our hands. You still see the word inconsistent pop up in here but he's been arguably our best player in three out of our four games with one off day against Derry.

It's very encouraging if Biggy can be kept quiet and we still have enough scoring power to get over the line against a good team. With COS and Forde there, opposition will have more to think about than just Biggy now. If McMahon and Wallace can find form, and Newman gets back fit, all of a sudden we are looking fairly healthy in there when only a few weeks ago we looked desperately short.

It was never going to happen overnight nor could we expect miracles but maybe, just maybe Andy Macs magic is starting to rub off. For now, if we continue to see performances like Sunday I'll be more than pleased."
absolutely agree with all that.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/03/2017 19:15:44    1965197

Link

Replying To dunboynelad:  "We hockeyed Derry with both in the team and performing well so that's nonsense.

I don't think Sheridan is in our top two inside forwards personally but he's been there because no one available have made a serious claim for that jersey as of yet, that's not his fault so the criticism is unfair. It'll be most likely Newmans but for now Andy can only pick from what's there.

As for Shane Mac, he was injured not dropped, and his criticism on here is silly and comes across as agenda stuff, if anyone think him or James for that matter will get favorable treatment off Andy and Gerry they're talking absolute nonsense and really don't know our management team very well."
So do you think shane mc should start since padraic harnan and donnacha tobin are back? Not saying its anything to do with connections to the manager. Brian sherdian cant play sean tobin is a lot better in the big man role if thats needed

Bigballer30 (Meath) - Posts: 16 - 07/03/2017 19:35:52    1965210

Link

Replying To ziggy32001:  "absolutely agree with all that."
Agree- thanks for that link dunboynelad. Leno's scores look great on the telly.

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 07/03/2017 20:11:17    1965231

Link

Replying To Bigballer30:  "So do you think shane mc should start since padraic harnan and donnacha tobin are back? Not saying its anything to do with connections to the manager. Brian sherdian cant play sean tobin is a lot better in the big man role if thats needed"
Sorry that wasn't directed at you, just more of a general point.

I wouldn't have anyone ahead of D Tobin in the half backs, I think he's the best we have there but that's irrelevant if he's being played in the corner. Our other two main stays there in last years league were D Smyth and James Mac, neither there or available and Finn off injured as well so in turn we've seen a new half back line for the time being anyway. It should be said too Shane Mac was thereabouts last year with Micko so he hasnt been picked out of thin air.

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you on S Tobin over Sheridan either, but I think you're only really filling a gap there and it's much a muchness.

dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 07/03/2017 21:01:42    1965263

Link

Replying To dunboynelad:  "Sorry that wasn't directed at you, just more of a general point.

I wouldn't have anyone ahead of D Tobin in the half backs, I think he's the best we have there but that's irrelevant if he's being played in the corner. Our other two main stays there in last years league were D Smyth and James Mac, neither there or available and Finn off injured as well so in turn we've seen a new half back line for the time being anyway. It should be said too Shane Mac was thereabouts last year with Micko so he hasnt been picked out of thin air.

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you on S Tobin over Sheridan either, but I think you're only really filling a gap there and it's much a muchness."
I dont remember Shane McEntee being involved last year, what games did he play? Was he on the panel? I do remember Douglas, Finn, Smyth, Harnan and Power involved. Not that it means much as this is a new year and players are a year older.

I thought Shane was very fortunate to be picked for the Derry game after his performance against Kildare but he did well in that game. Douglas looked to have taken the brunt of the blame for the Kildare defeat even though the guy he was marking did very little. Darragh Smyth is a surprise absentee from the panel and Finn is seemingly injured.

There's a fair chance that Shane wouldnt have made the cut last sunday with Donnacha's return, him or Carry was probably a toss up anyway. I think the issue is that, after Harnan, there is very little between the half backs on offer. I would have Tobin and Menton in there but Andy is playing them elsewhere and its a bit of robbing Peter to pay Paul situation.

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 07/03/2017 23:48:09    1965306

Link

Replying To oldsam_newsam:  "I dont remember Shane McEntee being involved last year, what games did he play? Was he on the panel? I do remember Douglas, Finn, Smyth, Harnan and Power involved. Not that it means much as this is a new year and players are a year older.

I thought Shane was very fortunate to be picked for the Derry game after his performance against Kildare but he did well in that game. Douglas looked to have taken the brunt of the blame for the Kildare defeat even though the guy he was marking did very little. Darragh Smyth is a surprise absentee from the panel and Finn is seemingly injured.

There's a fair chance that Shane wouldnt have made the cut last sunday with Donnacha's return, him or Carry was probably a toss up anyway. I think the issue is that, after Harnan, there is very little between the half backs on offer. I would have Tobin and Menton in there but Andy is playing them elsewhere and its a bit of robbing Peter to pay Paul situation."
He was in and around the panel a few times during the league from what I remember is what I meant sorry, so when we were down a few lads there this year he was naturally in line with a shout to step up anyway. The rest of your post is pretty much what I said as well.

dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 08/03/2017 02:13:04    1965309

Link