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Meath versus Galway

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "deegan has a serious problem with meath,it is not right.."
Why doesn't CB object to him?? This is a
Serious question. It's within their ability and rights to do so. Can't continue. Also can anyone tell me why the 2 black cards were issued at end? Look even the wrong Galway guy got it, should have been straight red for other Galway player ( can't think of his name) for striking

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/03/2017 19:49:31    1964106

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Look I wouldn't be too hard on either Menton or toher , both are trying to plug a serious problem in Meath team. I think Andy would give his left arm for a fully fit Gillespie, or a return of Rooney and Nash.
But we have to make do with what we have and they need help from both half back and half forward lines. Also por (who was v good today) needs to stop with so many long balls , why give opposition a advantage on your own kick outs? 7/10 at least are going to be lost. One thing cork have is a decent midfield pairing. Can't play into their hands."
"they need help from both half back and half forward lines"

as i keep saying,that is the real issue.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 05/03/2017 19:50:46    1964110

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Replying To bobkarlgees:  "
Replying To nobull456:  "YEH For me Menton 4 Toher 4.5 {he did have an attempt at frees also
Menton,s poorest match in a long time.....I am particularily critical of his attempts to catch from behind using one hand mostly. NOT midfielder, but would put him at seven. Harnan at 6. Power loosing out as his lack of pace at this level is a weakness imo. In fact i am surprised to see some posters remark on his improvement to day. I did not see that. Overall our inability to cater for breaking ball is most surprising"
Nope Menton slightly better than Toher I would have subbed Toher 10 mins before he did to be honest. and after missing the 45 and shots at goal not Toher day."]I would have left lenehane take it again, don't think he would have missed it second time,

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/03/2017 19:53:02    1964114

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Replying To bobkarlgees:  "
Replying To nobull456:  "YEH For me Menton 4 Toher 4.5 {he did have an attempt at frees also
Menton,s poorest match in a long time.....I am particularily critical of his attempts to catch from behind using one hand mostly. NOT midfielder, but would put him at seven. Harnan at 6. Power loosing out as his lack of pace at this level is a weakness imo. In fact i am surprised to see some posters remark on his improvement to day. I did not see that. Overall our inability to cater for breaking ball is most surprising"
Nope Menton slightly better than Toher I would have subbed Toher 10 mins before he did to be honest. and after missing the 45 and shots at goal not Toher day."]Ronan Jones, Conor Nash, Shane O'Rourke, Harry Rooney and Conor Gillespe. The options in midfield have been seriously depleted due to multiple reasons

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1463 - 05/03/2017 20:02:36    1964120

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I think our two major areas of concern are our half back line and midfield, Harnan obviously shored up that half back line a good bit today.

The two boys in midfield today aren't natural midfielders so it's hard to get on their backs too much they're just plugging holes, I know Flanagan is a still a little rough around the edges but I think he should be put into the team, only games will improve him and he's literally the only natural midfielder we have on the panel.

Doing this would allow menton to move into wing back and put harnan in the centre, now that's a half back line I would have confidence in.

Uncle_Fester (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 05/03/2017 20:04:55    1964124

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The inclusion of Tobin and Harnan in defence today I thought made a serious difference and I thought Power had a much improved game today, Lenihan was fantastic today and I also thought Flanagan made a good contribution when introduced, wouldn't be surprised to see him included v Cork as midfield is the one big problem area. Keoghan was like a man possessed today but overall there was some serious bottle shown in the last 10 mins and the importance of this win can't be understated, defeat today and our goose could have been cooked but there was no comparison with this performance and last weekend, what a disaster that defeat in Newry could turn out to be given results today, anyway for now we I'm happy and was able to avoid the mega bucket in KFC on the way home today, a positive in itself.....

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 05/03/2017 20:05:14    1964125

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Replying To Uncle_Fester:  "I think our two major areas of concern are our half back line and midfield, Harnan obviously shored up that half back line a good bit today.

The two boys in midfield today aren't natural midfielders so it's hard to get on their backs too much they're just plugging holes, I know Flanagan is a still a little rough around the edges but I think he should be put into the team, only games will improve him and he's literally the only natural midfielder we have on the panel.

Doing this would allow menton to move into wing back and put harnan in the centre, now that's a half back line I would have confidence in."
Agreed so whats your team then !

grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 05/03/2017 20:15:58    1964138

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Replying To Richieq:  "The inclusion of Tobin and Harnan in defence today I thought made a serious difference and I thought Power had a much improved game today, Lenihan was fantastic today and I also thought Flanagan made a good contribution when introduced, wouldn't be surprised to see him included v Cork as midfield is the one big problem area. Keoghan was like a man possessed today but overall there was some serious bottle shown in the last 10 mins and the importance of this win can't be understated, defeat today and our goose could have been cooked but there was no comparison with this performance and last weekend, what a disaster that defeat in Newry could turn out to be given results today, anyway for now we I'm happy and was able to avoid the mega bucket in KFC on the way home today, a positive in itself....."
Richie my problem is I would get the KFC regardless of win loss or draw lol.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/03/2017 20:16:01    1964139

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When Galway started coming back at us at the start of second half I thought here we go...Another good lead reeled in and another hammering at home.

But what character to stick at it and come away with the win.

I'm buzzing.

Yes, still absolutely loads to improve on but great to see a bit of good old fashioned Meath grit and determination to get the win.

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 05/03/2017 20:16:18    1964140

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Look I wouldn't be too hard on either Menton or toher , both are trying to plug a serious problem in Meath team. I think Andy would give his left arm for a fully fit Gillespie, or a return of Rooney and Nash.
But we have to make do with what we have and they need help from both half back and half forward lines. Also por (who was v good today) needs to stop with so many long balls , why give opposition a advantage on your own kick outs? 7/10 at least are going to be lost. One thing cork have is a decent midfield pairing. Can't play into their hands."
As I said before i'm nearly sure paddy would love to kick a short kick out to one of the backs but nobody is looking for the ball so what is he to do? Kick to a lad standing still and he'll probably lose the ball? When joey and eamon made a run to get away from their marker POR did kick it to them, this is something that needs to be worked on by management. I also think the players could be at fault if you notice when paddy puts the ball on the ground to be kicked out look how many players have their backed turned to the ball or just stand still waiting for him to hit it long. 2 or 3 players should be making a run looking for the short kick out.

It needs to be sorted out if we want to be anyway competitive in big games in the championship and league,

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 05/03/2017 20:18:22    1964143

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Look I wouldn't be too hard on either Menton or toher , both are trying to plug a serious problem in Meath team. I think Andy would give his left arm for a fully fit Gillespie, or a return of Rooney and Nash.
But we have to make do with what we have and they need help from both half back and half forward lines. Also por (who was v good today) needs to stop with so many long balls , why give opposition a advantage on your own kick outs? 7/10 at least are going to be lost. One thing cork have is a decent midfield pairing. Can't play into their hands."
Agreed trying to plug holes ,I think in that case i would persevere with Flanagan at midfield. . I would Put Menton at 7. harnan at 6. W e have to win more lose ball around the middle.

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1227 - 05/03/2017 20:18:38    1964144

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "nah to be honest :)"
Ah I dunno...If we need to have target man, focus of attack or decoy for lenihan I think it's a decent move.

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 05/03/2017 20:20:14    1964145

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I guess Andy should be on the phone this evening to Harry Rooney trying to persuade back from his travels, seen we are in deep trouble with our midfield. I know it sounds selfish but when your county comes calling !!!Imagine what Dublins midfield would do to us in Croke Park, if we are to progress in Leinster campaign.It proves now the loss he is to this set up. As with Teso , Every little helps and so be it with Harry.

cilles man (Meath) - Posts: 142 - 05/03/2017 20:21:47    1964149

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Look I wouldn't be too hard on either Menton or toher , both are trying to plug a serious problem in Meath team. I think Andy would give his left arm for a fully fit Gillespie, or a return of Rooney and Nash.
But we have to make do with what we have and they need help from both half back and half forward lines. Also por (who was v good today) needs to stop with so many long balls , why give opposition a advantage on your own kick outs? 7/10 at least are going to be lost. One thing cork have is a decent midfield pairing. Can't play into their hands."
Couldn't agree with you on por going long with the kickouts. While he's solid under ball coming into him, I'm watching every kickout through my fingers when he goes short. It was two messed up short kickouts v roscommon two years ago that scuppered promotion. Another v Derry a few weeks ago, another v down last week and one today, albeit no score came directly from today's. I just don't think short quick kickouts is something he's mastered yet at all.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6344 - 05/03/2017 20:30:21    1964160

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Richie my problem is I would get the KFC regardless of win loss or draw lol."
Pints for me!

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 05/03/2017 20:34:51    1964164

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Replying To cilles man:  "I guess Andy should be on the phone this evening to Harry Rooney trying to persuade back from his travels, seen we are in deep trouble with our midfield. I know it sounds selfish but when your county comes calling !!!Imagine what Dublins midfield would do to us in Croke Park, if we are to progress in Leinster campaign.It proves now the loss he is to this set up. As with Teso , Every little helps and so be it with Harry."
Harry had one great game against the dubs in O'Byrne. He still has a lot to prove. Hopefully we might see him back next year

As Sean Boylan says you play with the cards youre dealt.

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 05/03/2017 20:42:19    1964171

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "deegan has a serious problem with meath,it is not right.."
Yeah today isn't his first shambles. Another Michael Collins (referee).
I'll never forgive deegan for disallowing that goal for joes v wexford in 08. The dispossession was completely legitimate and a goal then would have stemmed the tide and steadied the ship. But we all know what happened instead.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6344 - 05/03/2017 20:42:45    1964172

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Replying To Jinxie:  "Couldn't agree with you on por going long with the kickouts. While he's solid under ball coming into him, I'm watching every kickout through my fingers when he goes short. It was two messed up short kickouts v roscommon two years ago that scuppered promotion. Another v Derry a few weeks ago, another v down last week and one today, albeit no score came directly from today's. I just don't think short quick kickouts is something he's mastered yet at all."
I agree with that also. It's heart stopping at times. And I think here lays our biggest problem, do we go short which paddy will make at least one haims of that might end up in goal , or keep going long to a makeshift midfield that will lose possession more often than not.
Real 6 of one , half dozen of other.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/03/2017 20:53:29    1964183

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I agree with that also. It's heart stopping at times. And I think here lays our biggest problem, do we go short which paddy will make at least one haims of that might end up in goal , or keep going long to a makeshift midfield that will lose possession more often than not.
Real 6 of one , half dozen of other."
Well the safety first option is long. But if there's enough lads coming to the 45 for marks it should be manageable to take 8/10 or our kickouts. V kildare and Derry when the runs were being made, he was picking out the like of osullivan and obrien but then it'd be followed up by a big drive to the middle which we kept losing in both games.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6344 - 05/03/2017 21:05:17    1964193

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Replying To Jinxie:  "Yeah today isn't his first shambles. Another Michael Collins (referee).
I'll never forgive deegan for disallowing that goal for joes v wexford in 08. The dispossession was completely legitimate and a goal then would have stemmed the tide and steadied the ship. But we all know what happened instead."
Haha yeah remember that ! No idea why it wasn't given! Never forget that game ! It was a piping hot day! We were unreal in the first half ! We fell apart after that ! Was it Limerick who hammered us in the next game

grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 05/03/2017 21:08:26    1964197

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