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Replying To royaldunne: "What have I said that is wrong, baring in mind I have stated Donal is our best player and perhaps in top 5 in country. What have I said that is incorrect?" That Graham is a better suited to being captain... nuff said I'm sorry but this will never be true brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 24/01/2017 16:36:32 1948483 Link
I have agreed down through the years with most of your comments especially the ones regarding MOD , but I was very surprised in your comments condoning striking especially coming from someone that has said he coaches under age players no place in the game for it . Also to claim that the captain has no role on the pitch is compleatly wrong and only there for the media surprising comment . But everyone is entitled to their opinion and thats why I enjoy this site and your contribution to it . Roll on Sunday week and we can debate something else and hopefully it's about a Meath victory . mmc (Meath) - Posts: 267 - 24/01/2017 16:37:11 1948485 Link
Replying To mmc: "I have agreed down through the years with most of your comments especially the ones regarding MOD , but I was very surprised in your comments condoning striking especially coming from someone that has said he coaches under age players no place in the game for it . Also to claim that the captain has no role on the pitch is compleatly wrong and only there for the media surprising comment . But everyone is entitled to their opinion and thats why I enjoy this site and your contribution to it . Roll on Sunday week and we can debate something else and hopefully it's about a Meath victory ." Just two things, I don't nesserly condone striking, ford pushed with open hands, what I did admire was everyone including forde defending their capt, when he was been deliberately targeted. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 24/01/2017 16:56:02 1948495 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Just two things, I don't nesserly condone striking, ford pushed with open hands, what I did admire was everyone including forde defending their capt, when he was been deliberately targeted." Royaldunne it was handbag stuff he had no reason to do what he done . Staying on the pitch would have helped his captain more . He would have had plenty of opportunitys to give it to them if he stayed on the pitch . My opinion on Reilly he will always look like he's a target because he carries the ball into the tackle a lot of the time something Meath have to stop doing . mmc (Meath) - Posts: 267 - 24/01/2017 17:09:55 1948499 Link
Replying To mmc: "I have agreed down through the years with most of your comments especially the ones regarding MOD , but I was very surprised in your comments condoning striking especially coming from someone that has said he coaches under age players no place in the game for it . Also to claim that the captain has no role on the pitch is compleatly wrong and only there for the media surprising comment . But everyone is entitled to their opinion and thats why I enjoy this site and your contribution to it . Roll on Sunday week and we can debate something else and hopefully it's about a Meath victory ." Just two things, I don't nesserly condone striking, ford pushed with open hands, what I did admire was everyone including forde defending their capt, when he was been deliberately targeted. Look in hindsight my comments regarding the incident may have been OTT,I don't condone striking. Maybe the fact that Reilly was frontal charges, clothes hangers tripped and hit at every opportunity clouded my normal views on striking, forde shouldn't have used his from where I was sitting open hands but In face, as I said on reflection I may have over reacted to it due to what was obvious team orders to take out one of our players who has all ire semi final this week. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 24/01/2017 17:21:25 1948505 Link
The incident reminded me of a crowd of schoolboys playacting (shoving and pushing) in the yard at lunch-time with the teacher missing, with almost everyone getting involved in handbags. I don't think that it can be justified, looks quite silly and I'm at a loss to see what purpose it serves. Another interesting aspect in the match was how some players proceeded to go in for big hits which appeared un-necessary (but fair) and came out on the wrong end of the contact. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 24/01/2017 17:28:36 1948509 Link
I think some lads were just trying to play on the edge. No harm in that. Like new Zealand rugby--they will try to physically hurt the opposition-- sometimes just within the rules of the game. Win at any cost bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 24/01/2017 18:07:50 1948519 Link
Whilst keoghan might be our best player I think our most important player is o Sullivan. The gee up he gave the team when he came on was impressive. Also I reckon the lads trained heavy just prior to the game-reckon this was done on purpose to see how the lads would perform under duress. bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 24/01/2017 18:22:39 1948525 Link
Replying To bert09: "Whilst keoghan might be our best player I think our most important player is o Sullivan. The gee up he gave the team when he came on was impressive. Also I reckon the lads trained heavy just prior to the game-reckon this was done on purpose to see how the lads would perform under duress." As an intrested outsider (my Mam supported Meath) I have C O'Sullivan as a good bet for an all star. He has a swagger that would give any team a lift. Regarding captaincy IMO it's not important at all in GAA unlike rugby where he captain clearly makes the calls and solely can question refs decisions. Best of luck to Meath in the forthcoming league and all going well we may meet again on a warmer day. ged (Louth) - Posts: 296 - 24/01/2017 19:03:59 1948536 Link
Replying To bert09: "Whilst keoghan might be our best player I think our most important player is o Sullivan. The gee up he gave the team when he came on was impressive. Also I reckon the lads trained heavy just prior to the game-reckon this was done on purpose to see how the lads would perform under duress." You are probably right. Heard something interesting, that amdy was actually happy with result as it calms down hype, gives him more time to prepare for league, and focus minds of players which he felt drifted too much during laoise game. How accurate that is I don't know. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 24/01/2017 19:09:23 1948537 Link
Replying To ged: "As an intrested outsider (my Mam supported Meath) I have C O'Sullivan as a good bet for an all star. He has a swagger that would give any team a lift. Regarding captaincy IMO it's not important at all in GAA unlike rugby where he captain clearly makes the calls and solely can question refs decisions. Best of luck to Meath in the forthcoming league and all going well we may meet again on a warmer day." Best of luck to you too GED and the wee. Hopefully we meet on a summer day. I agree with the captain thing too, it means less and less these days royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 24/01/2017 20:05:19 1948548 Link
Lads just ignore royledunne, he hasn't a clue, he'll only turn you off coming on here if you read into his post.... like the comment... loosing to Louth was a good thing for the team.....how he works that out I dunno surely winning bring confidence. DK wasn't a good captain, it took away from his game..... but he played brilliant the last few years GR is a better captain..... so it won't take away from his game???? Losing to Louth wasn't as bad as beating them last year I could go on but as I say ignore him D SS6 (Meath) - Posts: 149 - 24/01/2017 23:44:32 1948594 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "The club had no problems with him playing, it wasn't a manament call or even a player call (every player wants to play every game) he had gone to club told them his desire to play as he is captain, and could as easily get injured In training as in plating for Meath. Club had no problems with request, he then went to Andy, Andy then went to ciles to ensure they ok with it, . lots of consultantion . of course hindsight is 2020 vison and probably shouldn't have played with the way he was targeted. But you would hope refs would not allow that , but there you go." RD - Was reported this morning that Colm Nally was very angry that Reilly was played on Sunday. Ditto Ben Brennan who played v Donegal and picked up a knock. So are we to believe that the Cilles manager was not part of the consultantion process you speak of, or are you reporting things as fact which may are not true? BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 25/01/2017 08:44:06 1948612 Link
Replying To BarneysTie: "RD - Was reported this morning that Colm Nally was very angry that Reilly was played on Sunday. Ditto Ben Brennan who played v Donegal and picked up a knock. So are we to believe that the Cilles manager was not part of the consultantion process you speak of, or are you reporting things as fact which may are not true?" may not be true. You'll have to excuse the typo... BarneysTie (Meath)* - Posts: 258 - 25/01/2017 09:28:01 1948619 Link
Replying To BarneysTie: "RD - Was reported this morning that Colm Nally was very angry that Reilly was played on Sunday. Ditto Ben Brennan who played v Donegal and picked up a knock. So are we to believe that the Cilles manager was not part of the consultantion process you speak of, or are you reporting things as fact which may are not true?" I was told by a very good reliable source that the cilles were informed and had no problem with Graham, as I myself had concern, Ben I had not inquired about, however if manager was not part of consultantion then that has been a serious error, on all concerned, I will await further details, before making a judgement. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/01/2017 09:38:23 1948623 Link
Replying To BarneysTie: "may not be true. You'll have to excuse the typo..." BTW I am sure if colm had said no, neither would have played. royaldunne (Meath)* - Posts: 19449 - 25/01/2017 09:41:06 1948624 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "BTW I am sure if colm had said no, neither would have played." It's a strange one. Biggest game in the club's history. Maybe CN's beef wasn't with the club. Maybe the players made the call and he wasn't happy with them. Anyway hopefully it won't adversely impact their chances. BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 25/01/2017 10:34:06 1948638 Link
Either way Biggy should have been replaced at half time. He was being targeted by louth players (again) and we had an ineffectual referee who was doing v little to protect him. Cillian O'Sullivan should have been brought on at that stage. This is not hindsight, I and others were saying this at half time. I am 100% behind Andy Mac and am impressed with his demeanor on the sideline and how he is conducting interviews etc but he is not infallible & I think he made an error there. oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 25/01/2017 10:45:30 1948640 Link
Replying To oldsam_newsam: "Either way Biggy should have been replaced at half time. He was being targeted by louth players (again) and we had an ineffectual referee who was doing v little to protect him. Cillian O'Sullivan should have been brought on at that stage. This is not hindsight, I and others were saying this at half time. I am 100% behind Andy Mac and am impressed with his demeanor on the sideline and how he is conducting interviews etc but he is not infallible & I think he made an error there." I would tend to agree with you, I was surprised to say the least when I seen him return after HT, but no one is perfect , royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/01/2017 13:23:29 1948684 Link
'The Club had no problems with him playing, it wasn't a manament call or even a player call (every player wants to play every game) he had gone to club told them his desire to play as he is captain, and could as easily get injured In training as in plating for Meath. Club had no problems with request, he then went to Andy, Andy then went to ciles to ensure they ok with it, . lots of consultantion . of course hindsight is 2020 vison and probably shouldn't have played with the way he was targeted. But you would hope refs would not allow that , but there you go.' Where did you get your information from RoyalDunne as its 100% completely wrong. St Colmcilles didnt want Graham or Ben playing with Meath at the weekend. Andy insisted they played and Colm Nally is furious with this. Both suffered knocks and Ben has a nasty head injury. The players only have two training sessions with Cillies to prepare for their beiggest game ever. Very bad call by Meath management. Please RD stop posting non factual information, your lack of knowledge on this subject was laughable. RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 809 - 25/01/2017 16:47:46 1948755 Link