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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "definitely agree with Kennelly at midfield, he plays there for his club I think and he has shown the attributes when he plays wing forward. Would be worth a look at. Bobby at FF, not so sure. Could work maybe, not sure if he is accurate enough. If you are gonna try it, try it now though" Neither will cut the mustard when it comes to it. Very disappointing last Saturday. 14 men Meath beat Louth this time last year in Drogheda. Nothing other than a 6/7 points win will count as progress which at the end of the day everyone wants numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 19/01/2017 09:27:47 1946869 Link
Replying To numberedjerseys: "Neither will cut the mustard when it comes to it. Very disappointing last Saturday. 14 men Meath beat Louth this time last year in Drogheda. Nothing other than a 6/7 points win will count as progress which at the end of the day everyone wants" Disagree with you here. Win loss or draw makes no difference, cant compare last year at all as this is totally different set up. I think the mindset, physicality and game plans are far more important. Andy is trying to totally dismantle what was there last year rather than building on it, as the foundations were terrible. It really is a case of tearing it all down and starting from.scratch, with players who are willing to change, if not then they must go. Its like a plaster better off to rip it off quickly. The mental weakness is still their to some degree Andy himself has eluded to this twice already in post match interviews. I think he sees that as the number one thing to put right. Would be nice to get another match, but in reality it doesn't make one bit of difference to the big picture. Promotion royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/01/2017 10:47:48 1946909 Link
Last year when we lost big leads many posters said it was fitness, now 12 months on that has changed to switching off mentally. Now I do not know which it is but it is very early days. I do not see Louth as much of test-maybe Kildare. I see the stronger teams inside the province (outside Dublin) as possibly Kildare / Laois and possibly Westmeath, after that Louth/Longford/Banty! browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 19/01/2017 15:16:18 1947012 Link
Replying To browncows: "Last year when we lost big leads many posters said it was fitness, now 12 months on that has changed to switching off mentally. Now I do not know which it is but it is very early days. I do not see Louth as much of test-maybe Kildare. I see the stronger teams inside the province (outside Dublin) as possibly Kildare / Laois and possibly Westmeath, after that Louth/Longford/Banty!" Well it would help if you went to a couple of the Meath matches bc. Then you would know that the comebacks by Laois etc were totally different than what we endured last year and year before. No heads dropped , no one gave up, leadership from sideline coupled with switches and and passion . Hopefully you venture to navan on Sunday to see for yourself. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/01/2017 16:37:22 1947056 Link
Replying To browncows: "Last year when we lost big leads many posters said it was fitness, now 12 months on that has changed to switching off mentally. Now I do not know which it is but it is very early days. I do not see Louth as much of test-maybe Kildare. I see the stronger teams inside the province (outside Dublin) as possibly Kildare / Laois and possibly Westmeath, after that Louth/Longford/Banty!" laziness ? WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 19/01/2017 16:46:00 1947058 Link
Interesting to see what hand McEntee plays Sunday. Will he continue to give a few lads a chance to impress or will we see more of an experienced team out? I heard they play Donegal on Saturday. Team named tonight after training perhaps. Keeks (Louth) - Posts: 146 - 19/01/2017 17:04:38 1947067 Link
Replying To Keeks: "Interesting to see what hand McEntee plays Sunday. Will he continue to give a few lads a chance to impress or will we see more of an experienced team out? I heard they play Donegal on Saturday. Team named tonight after training perhaps." I would prefer him to experiment.I reckon he already has a good idea of his 15 for the league opener.He will have 10 names written down for sure. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/01/2017 17:34:10 1947078 Link
Replying To browncows: "Last year when we lost big leads many posters said it was fitness, now 12 months on that has changed to switching off mentally. Now I do not know which it is but it is very early days. I do not see Louth as much of test-maybe Kildare. I see the stronger teams inside the province (outside Dublin) as possibly Kildare / Laois and possibly Westmeath, after that Louth/Longford/Banty!" I for one ha we always said it's been a mental problem I don't think our physical fitness has ever been a problem, our physical size yes but not fitness, and yes it is early days and we have been fielding experimental teams with different personnel at each game and yet I hear stories of supporters losing the plot over the performance last Saturday night, as if all our problems are going to be solved over a few weekends in January!!! Some supporters need to get real here, this is certainly not an overnight fix and if we see signs of progress over the coming year I'll be happy, certainly promotion to division 1 would fall into that category Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 19/01/2017 17:34:20 1947079 Link
Surely he will give big Joe another run in goals against louth!! No point in calling him up and only giving him one competitive game! We all know what the others are capable off?? grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 19/01/2017 17:54:05 1947093 Link
Replying To Richieq: "I for one ha we always said it's been a mental problem I don't think our physical fitness has ever been a problem, our physical size yes but not fitness, and yes it is early days and we have been fielding experimental teams with different personnel at each game and yet I hear stories of supporters losing the plot over the performance last Saturday night, as if all our problems are going to be solved over a few weekends in January!!! Some supporters need to get real here, this is certainly not an overnight fix and if we see signs of progress over the coming year I'll be happy, certainly promotion to division 1 would fall into that category" I said it could be next season before we could see real progress.Alot of stuff has to be ironed out before Andy can put a real foundation in place. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/01/2017 17:56:41 1947096 Link
Replying To Richieq: "I for one ha we always said it's been a mental problem I don't think our physical fitness has ever been a problem, our physical size yes but not fitness, and yes it is early days and we have been fielding experimental teams with different personnel at each game and yet I hear stories of supporters losing the plot over the performance last Saturday night, as if all our problems are going to be solved over a few weekends in January!!! Some supporters need to get real here, this is certainly not an overnight fix and if we see signs of progress over the coming year I'll be happy, certainly promotion to division 1 would fall into that category" Would have to agree. Again I dont care if Louth win on Sunday ( well I do care , but you know what I mean) . Its not the be end of everything, I also agree alot of posters overreacting to Laois game, I was there, I seen nothing of the sort of collapses I've witness previously. There was a combination of things, most notably it was a damn strong Laois team for a Jan game. I would go with fringe players mostly on Sunday, those who are knocking on the door but not in panel yet, perhaps Joe in goal , I dont know, it would add a bit of bite to game, I would like to see how our second string get on, and maybe give Andy a headache or two when finalising panel. The result is immaterial. Id be happy enough leaving navan with a loss if I could say, you know so and so had a great game he could do a job in that position, the likes of keoghan, O'Sullivan Reilly Menton etc will learn us little, they already guaranteed start. We need to see the fringe players or those returning from injury royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/01/2017 18:33:36 1947110 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Would have to agree. Again I dont care if Louth win on Sunday ( well I do care , but you know what I mean) . Its not the be end of everything, I also agree alot of posters overreacting to Laois game, I was there, I seen nothing of the sort of collapses I've witness previously. There was a combination of things, most notably it was a damn strong Laois team for a Jan game. I would go with fringe players mostly on Sunday, those who are knocking on the door but not in panel yet, perhaps Joe in goal , I dont know, it would add a bit of bite to game, I would like to see how our second string get on, and maybe give Andy a headache or two when finalising panel. The result is immaterial. Id be happy enough leaving navan with a loss if I could say, you know so and so had a great game he could do a job in that position, the likes of keoghan, O'Sullivan Reilly Menton etc will learn us little, they already guaranteed start. We need to see the fringe players or those returning from injury" Would be suprised if Reilly plays with Cillies out the following weekend. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/01/2017 19:12:09 1947127 Link
Any news on how James McEntee is progressing, think he had an operation on his hand? Have liked the look of this lad on the few occassions he played. seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2144 - 19/01/2017 19:36:34 1947133 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "Would be suprised if Reilly plays with Cillies out the following weekend." True, plus if Meath win , he will miss collecting cup should we win following week. But bigger fish to fry. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/01/2017 19:44:58 1947136 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Disagree with you here. Win loss or draw makes no difference, cant compare last year at all as this is totally different set up. I think the mindset, physicality and game plans are far more important. Andy is trying to totally dismantle what was there last year rather than building on it, as the foundations were terrible. It really is a case of tearing it all down and starting from.scratch, with players who are willing to change, if not then they must go. Its like a plaster better off to rip it off quickly. The mental weakness is still their to some degree Andy himself has eluded to this twice already in post match interviews. I think he sees that as the number one thing to put right. Would be nice to get another match, but in reality it doesn't make one bit of difference to the big picture. Promotion" My god after the disappointing collapse in stradbally it is of high importance that meath win and win well in front of perhaps 5/6k people on home grounds on Sunday. That will be the McEntee mentality With a challenge v Donegal on Saturday meath will field a strong meath as we can the other panelists will play v Donegal Andy will want to keep the meath support on board with a home final on the cards and heading into two home league games in February numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 19/01/2017 22:40:55 1947203 Link
Reilly will be named to start on Sunday and I expect to see a few lads back who played with the colleges in the group stage. Reckon we'll see Lavin anyway. jackhackett (Meath) - Posts: 773 - 19/01/2017 22:45:25 1947205 Link
Meath team to play Louth 1 Jack Hannigan (Donaghmore/Ashbourne) 2 David mc Quaillian (St Pats) 3 Donal Keogan (Rathkenny), 4 Sean Curran (Donaghmore/Ashbourne) 5 Seamus lavin (St Peter's Dunboyne) 6 Brian Power (Rathoath) 7 Alan Forde (Navan O'Mahonys) 8 Bryan Menton (Donaghmore/Ashbourne) 9 Cian O'Brien (Ratoath); 10 Ruairi O Coileain (Navan O'Mahony's)" 11 Graham Reilly (St Colmcilles) 12 Eammon Wallace (Rathoath) 13 Kevin Ross (Castletown) 14 Paddy Kennelly (Dunderry) 15 Sean Tobin (Simonstown Gaels) A new full forward ?? interesting. I am not sure if winning this would great thing, giving that first round of the league would be the following week. bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 20/01/2017 08:38:38 1947233 Link
Strong enough team. Be interesting to see how Wallace gets on Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 20/01/2017 09:02:46 1947235 Link
Subs. Joe Sheridan (Seneschalstown), Conor Downey (Na Fianna), Cillian O'Sullivan (Moynalvey), Bryan McMahon (Ratoath), Shane McEntee ( St Peters Dunboyne), Adam Flanagan (Clonard), Conor McGill (Ratoath), Mickey Burke (Longwood), Michael Newman (Kilmainham). Good to Newman and Mc Gill included. I am guessing these too will be getting a run. And james Mc Entee back after injury. bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 20/01/2017 10:23:25 1947265 Link
Replying To bobkarlgees: "Meath team to play Louth 1 Jack Hannigan (Donaghmore/Ashbourne) 2 David mc Quaillian (St Pats) 3 Donal Keogan (Rathkenny), 4 Sean Curran (Donaghmore/Ashbourne) 5 Seamus lavin (St Peter's Dunboyne) 6 Brian Power (Rathoath) 7 Alan Forde (Navan O'Mahonys) 8 Bryan Menton (Donaghmore/Ashbourne) 9 Cian O'Brien (Ratoath); 10 Ruairi O Coileain (Navan O'Mahony's)" 11 Graham Reilly (St Colmcilles) 12 Eammon Wallace (Rathoath) 13 Kevin Ross (Castletown) 14 Paddy Kennelly (Dunderry) 15 Sean Tobin (Simonstown Gaels) A new full forward ?? interesting. I am not sure if winning this would great thing, giving that first round of the league would be the following week." Can't see us not winning though! ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 20/01/2017 10:40:03 1947272 Link