Meath Forum

The O'Byrne Cup

(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post


Replying To ged:  "No bother RD just having the craic. I can see nothing other than a convincing Meath win as I felt we struggled at times against 2 div4 teams. Park the bus and counterattack might be Louths best chance."
Ahh i know that. However I still think it will be close, Louth teams always up their game v Meath, I can see Sunday the same, the most important thing I for both counties to get a run into lads before league start

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/01/2017 14:21:31    1946092

Link

Replying To royaldunne:  "Which aherridan? I presume you mean Brian.
Also from what I hear Tormey is dropped off panel, (is that right ziggy? You might know). so how could he be included?
I liked the work rate of ross, always looking for ball and didn't coward away from tackles. Certainly worth a shot."
I meant Brian Sheridan yes ! With regards to tormey didn't realise he left the panel still think he could offer something! But not to be..

grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 16/01/2017 17:50:13    1946133

Link

Replying To grahamc9897:  "I meant Brian Sheridan yes ! With regards to tormey didn't realise he left the panel still think he could offer something! But not to be.."
Yeah, well that's the rumour, how accurate it is I dont know. Maybe ziggy could throw light on it.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/01/2017 18:32:53    1946137

Link

Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "disagree, he is not an answer as an inside forward for me. Just another version of Joey Wallace in my opinion. 1 point from play in 2 games is a poor return against Wicklow and Laois. Just my opinion."
LeitrimRoyal99 , I was at all the games that Ross has played in , Challlenges included , I don't know where your coming from with the Joey Wallace comparison , Next to Mickey Burke , I would say Ross is pound for pound the most developed player on the Meath team at present . He is physically strong ,though small in stature , but when in possession very rarely gets dispossessed . And I note you conveniently forgot about all the other players scores that Ross contributed to in both games .He wins possession easily , with his speed and physicality , and distributes it well . Something that unfortunately others do not do so well , In the Wicklow game a number of the forwards appeared to be asked to revert to a defending role once an attack broke down . Ross was one of them I would gather from what I seen . If you comparing him to Joey , you may want to take that into account , as I believe that was one of Joeys weaker points .And when challenged physically he was easily disposed , especially when he attempted to run straight at defenders .

Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 17/01/2017 13:13:19    1946292

Link

Well lads I'm just back in town, and I can't b reading this dirt, where do I start, first things first anybody who is comparing young Wallace to young Ross they need their head examined,

Waterbottles (Meath) - Posts: 3 - 17/01/2017 13:49:12    1946305

Link

Replying To Waterbottles:  "Well lads I'm just back in town, and I can't b reading this dirt, where do I start, first things first anybody who is comparing young Wallace to young Ross they need their head examined,"
Agree , I did not intend to compare either player

Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 17/01/2017 14:09:02    1946310

Link

Royalerking , going on you assessment of Ross , not scoring from Open play , would have had a lot of our Meath Teams of old in trouble . Sean Boylan would have left the likes of Brian Stafford at home in the Wood , , Brendan Reilly supping tea in Dunboyne , Colm Coyle in beauparc and PJ Gillic at home in Carnaross thinning the turnips . Fortunately for us that was not the case . Sometimes it's not how much a forward scores that dictates his acceptance as part of a team , but what he can bring to the party , be it free taking , assisting , defensive, duties, or even just the ability to get up or down a pitch to support there team mates .
If you have an overall idea of an inside forward sitting in on the end line waiting to be supplied with easy ball so that they can get easy scores , then you better wake up and see how modern football is now played .
Footballers have to be 100% footballers , not just good at scoring , or defending , or covering ground , but doing all of those things ..... Wake up Sleeping beauty , we're out of the 90s now .....

Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 17/01/2017 14:34:27    1946327

Link

Replying To Meath_True:  "LeitrimRoyal99 , I was at all the games that Ross has played in , Challlenges included , I don't know where your coming from with the Joey Wallace comparison , Next to Mickey Burke , I would say Ross is pound for pound the most developed player on the Meath team at present . He is physically strong ,though small in stature , but when in possession very rarely gets dispossessed . And I note you conveniently forgot about all the other players scores that Ross contributed to in both games .He wins possession easily , with his speed and physicality , and distributes it well . Something that unfortunately others do not do so well , In the Wicklow game a number of the forwards appeared to be asked to revert to a defending role once an attack broke down . Ross was one of them I would gather from what I seen . If you comparing him to Joey , you may want to take that into account , as I believe that was one of Joeys weaker points .And when challenged physically he was easily disposed , especially when he attempted to run straight at defenders ."
Yeah, but what % of Meath's scores did he contribute to? That's important around here you know!

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 17/01/2017 14:53:11    1946336

Link

Replying To Meath_True:  "Royalerking , going on you assessment of Ross , not scoring from Open play , would have had a lot of our Meath Teams of old in trouble . Sean Boylan would have left the likes of Brian Stafford at home in the Wood , , Brendan Reilly supping tea in Dunboyne , Colm Coyle in beauparc and PJ Gillic at home in Carnaross thinning the turnips . Fortunately for us that was not the case . Sometimes it's not how much a forward scores that dictates his acceptance as part of a team , but what he can bring to the party , be it free taking , assisting , defensive, duties, or even just the ability to get up or down a pitch to support there team mates .
If you have an overall idea of an inside forward sitting in on the end line waiting to be supplied with easy ball so that they can get easy scores , then you better wake up and see how modern football is now played .
Footballers have to be 100% footballers , not just good at scoring , or defending , or covering ground , but doing all of those things ..... Wake up Sleeping beauty , we're out of the 90s now ....."
thats it caistleain stand up for the local lad

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 17/01/2017 15:11:03    1946351

Link

Don't try to belittle facts , by trying to make it a parochial thing . Brownepat , we know how good you are a self promotion and parochial affairs ......to the detriment of Meath football
Anfhearbeag , , with the score at 2-22 to Meath , and Ross scoring 1 point from play early on , and assisting in 2 scores in the first half and 3 in the second half , percentage wise that would be about 25% , but you'll probably dis that fact as well

Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 17/01/2017 16:20:43    1946385

Link

Replying To Waterbottles:  "Well lads I'm just back in town, and I can't b reading this dirt, where do I start, first things first anybody who is comparing young Wallace to young Ross they need their head examined,"
I also think the same and don't know how they could be compared. Chalk and cheese

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/01/2017 16:31:41    1946391

Link

Replying To Meath_True:  "Royalerking , going on you assessment of Ross , not scoring from Open play , would have had a lot of our Meath Teams of old in trouble . Sean Boylan would have left the likes of Brian Stafford at home in the Wood , , Brendan Reilly supping tea in Dunboyne , Colm Coyle in beauparc and PJ Gillic at home in Carnaross thinning the turnips . Fortunately for us that was not the case . Sometimes it's not how much a forward scores that dictates his acceptance as part of a team , but what he can bring to the party , be it free taking , assisting , defensive, duties, or even just the ability to get up or down a pitch to support there team mates .
If you have an overall idea of an inside forward sitting in on the end line waiting to be supplied with easy ball so that they can get easy scores , then you better wake up and see how modern football is now played .
Footballers have to be 100% footballers , not just good at scoring , or defending , or covering ground , but doing all of those things ..... Wake up Sleeping beauty , we're out of the 90s now ....."
I agree that players have to contribute out the field absaloutely. But Ross isn't really great at either. And as for being out in front to win the ball, he just doesn't do it. I did say it was in my opinion earlier but I will say it again. I don't really rate him. Just my opinion. Don't crucify me

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1458 - 17/01/2017 16:32:19    1946392

Link

Glad we've got louth in the semi. Should be an intense encounter. The perfect warm up to the league for both teams.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 17/01/2017 16:32:43    1946395

Link

Replying To Meath_True:  "Royalerking , going on you assessment of Ross , not scoring from Open play , would have had a lot of our Meath Teams of old in trouble . Sean Boylan would have left the likes of Brian Stafford at home in the Wood , , Brendan Reilly supping tea in Dunboyne , Colm Coyle in beauparc and PJ Gillic at home in Carnaross thinning the turnips . Fortunately for us that was not the case . Sometimes it's not how much a forward scores that dictates his acceptance as part of a team , but what he can bring to the party , be it free taking , assisting , defensive, duties, or even just the ability to get up or down a pitch to support there team mates .
If you have an overall idea of an inside forward sitting in on the end line waiting to be supplied with easy ball so that they can get easy scores , then you better wake up and see how modern football is now played .
Footballers have to be 100% footballers , not just good at scoring , or defending , or covering ground , but doing all of those things ..... Wake up Sleeping beauty , we're out of the 90s now ....."
Look all I said was i liked the look of young Ross, and think he might make final panel, not even starting but certainly final 32 , I really admired his work rate , he chipped over a few frees, and while it was a nothing game he kept composure in what must have been a bit stressful situation for him personally knowing he would be judged on the last minute penalty he showed steel, and for want of a better word, balls to slot it away Cooley. I didn't go one second say he was finished article, but I was impressed with his work rate , assists and general attitude, which even if coming off bench may help us later in the year. I certainly didn't mean to bring this much attention on to him.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/01/2017 16:38:52    1946398

Link

Replying To Meath_True:  "Royalerking , going on you assessment of Ross , not scoring from Open play , would have had a lot of our Meath Teams of old in trouble . Sean Boylan would have left the likes of Brian Stafford at home in the Wood , , Brendan Reilly supping tea in Dunboyne , Colm Coyle in beauparc and PJ Gillic at home in Carnaross thinning the turnips . Fortunately for us that was not the case . Sometimes it's not how much a forward scores that dictates his acceptance as part of a team , but what he can bring to the party , be it free taking , assisting , defensive, duties, or even just the ability to get up or down a pitch to support there team mates .
If you have an overall idea of an inside forward sitting in on the end line waiting to be supplied with easy ball so that they can get easy scores , then you better wake up and see how modern football is now played .
Footballers have to be 100% footballers , not just good at scoring , or defending , or covering ground , but doing all of those things ..... Wake up Sleeping beauty , we're out of the 90s now ....."
Agreed. Ross isn't in the team to score necessarily. He's in the team to get on the ball, be strong on it and lay it off to a scorer, most likely coming from the half forward positions or another full forward on the loop. He's also in it to be a first line of defence which by all accounts I hear he is decent enough et. It also helps that he's handy enough from the frees.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1318 - 17/01/2017 16:42:12    1946400

Link

Meath-True you seem to be forgetting the CRUCIAL scores which both Coyler and Brenny Reilly scored from open play in both the drawn and replayed All-Ireland finals of '96. To even mention Ross in the same breath as Stafford is also quite laughable. Anyway IMO he won't be next or near the team come the Kildare game in the opening round of the league, we have far better forwards than him.

RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 809 - 17/01/2017 16:48:07    1946403

Link

Replying To Meath_True:  "Don't try to belittle facts , by trying to make it a parochial thing . Brownepat , we know how good you are a self promotion and parochial affairs ......to the detriment of Meath football
Anfhearbeag , , with the score at 2-22 to Meath , and Ross scoring 1 point from play early on , and assisting in 2 scores in the first half and 3 in the second half , percentage wise that would be about 25% , but you'll probably dis that fact as well"
Good stuff caistleain keep her lit Kevin is a good lad .. no double standards now

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 17/01/2017 17:19:57    1946410

Link

RoylerKing (Meath)
Is that the Reilly you referred to who played corner back against Down and got a bit of a roasting (don't think his name was benny though). If Ross gets the same chances as the corner forwards (or indeed any of the forwards) who were there last year I would expect to be at least as good. I would agree with the comment that the first line of defence is your full forward line. Who makes the team or not will be decided by the management and not by posters.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 17/01/2017 18:35:24    1946450

Link

Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "I agree that players have to contribute out the field absaloutely. But Ross isn't really great at either. And as for being out in front to win the ball, he just doesn't do it. I did say it was in my opinion earlier but I will say it again. I don't really rate him. Just my opinion. Don't crucify me"
?? Did u say you were at all games and challenges? I was aswell, this young lad is a natural modern day footballer that's easy to see, he scored 1-3 on saturday to me that's a big contribution, and what I have seen of him so far is he does not go hiding like alot of others we all saw that, its a good thing your opinions don't get near the dressing room!

Waterbottles (Meath) - Posts: 3 - 17/01/2017 19:00:09    1946461

Link

Replying To RoylerKing:  "Meath-True you seem to be forgetting the CRUCIAL scores which both Coyler and Brenny Reilly scored from open play in both the drawn and replayed All-Ireland finals of '96. To even mention Ross in the same breath as Stafford is also quite laughable. Anyway IMO he won't be next or near the team come the Kildare game in the opening round of the league, we have far better forwards than him."
As has become the norm here , if you point out facts , posters turn things into personal attacks which they aren't, When you score in a football match , people don't give a hoot if its from play or placed balls , once you score and win . It's only the nit pickers that mention that fact, and generally that only happens when you lose , its a different level of nit picking when it's after a win . Ross was not contributing enough scores from play according to some posters , The point I was trying to make before Royler tried to turn it into an attack on legends , is that some of those players ( who rightly so , are held in high esteem) didn't score from play in a lot of the matches , but they did score ( Stafford etc.) , they got their chance but it was their overall contribution that was looked at . no slight on them , whatsoever was meant .But you Royaler turned it that way ..... stick to point please .

Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 18/01/2017 15:10:32    1946683

Link