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We were jammy. Freakish enough penalty decision I think I ever saw. Not complaining though. Laois took 25 mins to get going. Much bigger and more physical than us. They moved the ball well and took their scores well after a slow start. They outmustled meath. We were trying to run through them in the second half and ended up running into a brick wall. Trying to get to close to their goals to get scores instead of picking off longer range scores. GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 14/01/2017 22:26:24 1945759 Link
How was Mcquillan left on kingston for so long. Not having a go at the chap but Keoghan would have a lot more experience than him & they should've been switched. Thought biggie Curran & Kennelly made poor decisions more than once & gave away possession needlessly, some of which led directly to scores for laois. We're still vulnerable to teams running at us & dont have the patience when the opposition pack their defence. Great to get another game & probably have a better idea of where we are / what has to be done after tonight . Also great to snatch a result at the death royal69er (Meath) - Posts: 96 - 14/01/2017 22:47:22 1945762 Link
Replying To GlasagusOr: "We were jammy. Freakish enough penalty decision I think I ever saw. Not complaining though. Laois took 25 mins to get going. Much bigger and more physical than us. They moved the ball well and took their scores well after a slow start. They outmustled meath. We were trying to run through them in the second half and ended up running into a brick wall. Trying to get to close to their goals to get scores instead of picking off longer range scores." Would agree with that assessment overall. Look its early January in a meaningless comp, we won it last year and it didn't do us any good. However its another game to try out another few lads, it all helps before the real business starts. I wasn't in Ashbourne either, but from all reports Burlingham did good, Joe was ok apart from one or two errors his kick outs were solid. Laois are a bigger team then us and their physicality showed at times. That been said the lads didn't cowar away. Can't be anything other than happy with start. But more daunting and important games lay head. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/01/2017 22:50:33 1945763 Link
Replying To GlasagusOr: "We were jammy. Freakish enough penalty decision I think I ever saw. Not complaining though. Laois took 25 mins to get going. Much bigger and more physical than us. They moved the ball well and took their scores well after a slow start. They outmustled meath. We were trying to run through them in the second half and ended up running into a brick wall. Trying to get to close to their goals to get scores instead of picking off longer range scores." Agree with above but it was that blanket defense second half from Loais I kinda worked for them as they lumped it forward to kingston. We should have done better to stop the supply to him. Good test to come up against such defense it runied with was decent game up to that. bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 14/01/2017 23:00:46 1945765 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "The only two things ill say to that is firstly it wasn't a Meath collapse that lead to Laois resurgence just they found their shooting boots particularly Kingston, so in that regard it wasnt a typical mod implosion. Secondly unlike mod teams we kept fighting to the end, even with so many inexperienced players. Overall I am very happy with the 3 games, tried out lots of new players a lot fitter team and more grit to them. But best of all? 3 games away from micko era." I would agree with that. Meath cut Loais apart in first 25 minutes or then Loais started that blanket defense rubbish. It seem to work for Loais. we where a bit nervous if front of goal. Byran Mc Mahon and few others should pulled the trigger a few times but missed chances and ended up getting turned over. bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 14/01/2017 23:15:15 1945767 Link
Take the opppsite to what royaldunne says and you'll have the truth Someone tell royal dunne MOD wasn't playing last year and you could say for the implodes last year the other team found there shooting boots. You'll love Andy now by the end of the year you won't and you'll be saying You said he was no good all along Ross is a fine footballers and the two corner backs did what they needed to do, SS6 (Meath) - Posts: 149 - 15/01/2017 00:14:19 1945770 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "The only two things ill say to that is firstly it wasn't a Meath collapse that lead to Laois resurgence just they found their shooting boots particularly Kingston, so in that regard it wasnt a typical mod implosion. Secondly unlike mod teams we kept fighting to the end, even with so many inexperienced players. Overall I am very happy with the 3 games, tried out lots of new players a lot fitter team and more grit to them. But best of all? 3 games away from micko era." Time to let the Mick O Dowd thing go whatever his failings I'm sure he did what he thought was best and maybe he was not ruthless enough with the squad to succeed but he put himself up there and had a go when nobody else really wanted to its a new era now and we all hope it will improve but no one knows what the future holds but let the past go and look forward to what hopefully will be a brighter future runnerin (Meath) - Posts: 202 - 15/01/2017 00:41:50 1945771 Link
Replying To bobjaffacake: "Navan next sunday against the winners of louth and carlow" Westmeath have an outside chance of going through as well. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 15/01/2017 09:26:33 1945775 Link
All the best sides are physical strong.This aspect is the one aspect that has to be addressed the most imo. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 15/01/2017 09:58:27 1945778 Link
Replying To OLLIE: "Westmeath have an outside chance of going through as well." Very outside chance Ollie. Looking like ourselves and yourselves. Happy new year to you btw Ollie royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/01/2017 10:07:04 1945779 Link
Replying To royal69er: "How was Mcquillan left on kingston for so long. Not having a go at the chap but Keoghan would have a lot more experience than him & they should've been switched. Thought biggie Curran & Kennelly made poor decisions more than once & gave away possession needlessly, some of which led directly to scores for laois. We're still vulnerable to teams running at us & dont have the patience when the opposition pack their defence. Great to get another game & probably have a better idea of where we are / what has to be done after tonight . Also great to snatch a result at the death" It is the OBC,he probably wanted to see how McQuillan would deal with him over the course of the game.He would have learnt nothing if he moved Keoghan onto Kingston.. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 15/01/2017 10:09:04 1945780 Link
Wasn't at the game yesterday! Not reading a whole lot into it ! Positives are we have another match next week ! Would expect us to qualify for the final now ! As Many games as possible can only be good for squad selection!! Looking forward to going to another game next week! Interested to seeing our team selection on Sunday grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 15/01/2017 10:09:55 1945781 Link
Replying To bobkarlgees: "I would agree with that. Meath cut Loais apart in first 25 minutes or then Loais started that blanket defense rubbish. It seem to work for Loais. we where a bit nervous if front of goal. Byran Mc Mahon and few others should pulled the trigger a few times but missed chances and ended up getting turned over." Yeah, that's it in a nutshell, when the game was open we were all over them, however when they went to blanket defense it obviously changed the game completely, and their passes to Kingston were very good, lets be honest if he was on dubs, mayo, Kerry teams the guy would have all stars and everyone raving about him. And we got a few nervy shots off that didn't go anywhere. Again nothing that cant be ironed out. It was a pretty strong Laois team for January. The important thing was we didn't let the heads drop and kept fighting, cant ask for more than that. Another game another set of players to give Andy what he needs royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/01/2017 10:15:26 1945783 Link
To have an 8 point lead eroded and laois leading by 2 on 70 minutes is very disappointing. I thought both our goals were fortunate too. A lot of work left to do... bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 15/01/2017 10:37:52 1945787 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "All the best sides are physical strong.This aspect is the one aspect that has to be addressed the most imo." True, we need to get physically stronger. I'm sure its been worked on, but probably too early yet to see results. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/01/2017 10:40:00 1945788 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "It is the OBC,he probably wanted to see how McQuillan would deal with him over the course of the game.He would have learnt nothing if he moved Keoghan onto Kingston.." Again I would agree, its all about learning, Andy needed to know how mcquillan would do over a game, its a tough lesson for the lad but hopefully it makes him a better defender , by the way is he related to Micky? royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/01/2017 10:44:15 1945789 Link
Replying To grahamc9897: "How was big Joe??" He did okay. Nothing special or nothing out of the ordinary. I think he drove one kickout over d sideline, but I might be wrong. Forwards constantly looked for the ball. A little shaky at times defensively, especially under pressure from Laois at times. But it's January and won't get carried away. David (Meath) - Posts: 567 - 15/01/2017 10:45:56 1945790 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Very outside chance Ollie. Looking like ourselves and yourselves. Happy new year to you btw Ollie" Cheers Royaldunne. And likewise to yourself and your family. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 15/01/2017 11:00:15 1945794 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "It is the OBC,he probably wanted to see how McQuillan would deal with him over the course of the game.He would have learnt nothing if he moved Keoghan onto Kingston.." Yeah, I agree with that Ziggy. The obvious choice would to take Mc Quillan off kingston but you would then learn nothing. I felt sorry for Quillan having to deal with that with one of his first games games. They did not help Mc McQuillan out enough and left him exposed a good few times. Also if you hiper analyze it. Mc McQuillan did good a few times. He and broke the ball away from kingston but the ball seem end up in a Loais player hands also Kingston got a few very soft frees to. But overall Kingston was one of the main reasons for the Loais come back. that could fixed another day. bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 15/01/2017 11:49:27 1945801 Link
Its was hard to see the game from the sideline. I was impressed with Paddy Kennelly. I know he did lose the ball a few times (hopefully once more experience this can cut out) He looked take on his marker every time and ran at loais. Beating his marker regularly. I was delighted to see Alan frode he looked good for time he was on. he ran at Laois through heavy traffic when it was exactly what we wanted. He showing a bit of leadership. Downey and Curran solid enough displays. Strange type of game but IMO a draw was fair enough result. bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 15/01/2017 12:01:11 1945804 Link