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Andy had one or two good games, then became a passenger, shifting him around didn't help, don't think he is a option anymore tbh
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/12/2016 08:44:52 1937731 Link 0 |
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Is Bryan Conlan a possibility for midfield for Meath? I know he is centre half back for the club, but I would prefer to keep Harnan there for the county rather than keep swapping him around.
anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 01/12/2016 09:16:50 1937740 Link 6 |
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if we hoping for a few DCU or any freshers to help us take on Dubs in 2017 we are deluded
numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 01/12/2016 09:21:06 1937742 Link 0 |
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I disagree. I could see no reason why there wouldn't be a couple of 18/19 year olds on the team for next year, and if so they would be playing against the Dubs if we met them. I don't think for one minute that any young player will be the difference between beating the dubs or not. To be honest, I can't see us beating the Dubs next year, regardless of who plays- they are just too far ahead of us at the minute. But I like to take a longer view, as to many posters on here, and as I suspect will Andy McEntee. If some fresher is good enough, then get him in there next year, and give him a couple of years to develop on the team. anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 01/12/2016 10:49:47 1937761 Link 6 |
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I see your point but, in my opinion, our priority next year is promotion to division 1. So that means playing the best team possible in every league game. None of this stick them in to give them a chance to develop lark. Who is to know that, after they have a couple of years being carried in league games, that they wont head to the US or Australia with county experience under their belt like Rooney? I have no problem with them being in the panel and training with the senior team but we need the best, toughest players who will play to Andy's strategy not chopping and changing like was done last year. oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 01/12/2016 11:26:21 1937771 Link 0 |
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There may be the odd young player good enough, however you are going nowhere unless you have good experience on the team (25/26/27 year olds). There are have been many young players on the team over the last 3 years and most of them have not improved and I am inclined to agree with oldsam comments. I would not expect to win a senior championship with too many very young players. You can build for the future but the future may never arrive. If you want to win matches at league or championship level you put out your best players. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 01/12/2016 13:44:55 1937798 Link 6 |
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100 % agree with you browncows to win you need to put out your best team. The problem we have is we don't know who the best players are be they 17 or 27. After the few years we had I don't think anyone could confidently name 10 guaranteed starters for the first game of the O'Byrne Cup or the League. I hear anyone interested in trying out for the team was invited to prove themselves and that can only be a good thing, it will be up to Andy and Co now to make the best of what made themselves available. From what we have witnessed at club games there is very few new untried players available, so it will be more a case of Andy getting that extra 10% out of lads to turn around our fortunes and if he does then there is no reason why we can be competitive this year.
anto_meath (Meath) - Posts: 108 - 01/12/2016 14:27:35 1937813 Link 0 |
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I would agree with this. Also we tend to lose players every year so..
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 01/12/2016 14:40:02 1937819 Link 3 |
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From what I have seen he's a very tidy centre back who sets up his teams attacks from a focal point like an agressive playmaker, and is a traditional player in the sense how direct he is when he takes players on, it's brilliant to see. Whether he can do that at senior county level (yet) I don't know at this stage and he surely won't run through Northern teams like he can in the Meath SFC. How good defensively he is I've no real idea either but there's a lot to work with there and in good hands too. Doesn't strike me as a natural midfielder although 19 (?) is very young to hold a chb position at senior county. However I've always said if you're good enough you're old enough.
dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 01/12/2016 16:15:23 1937836 Link 0 |
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As for the best team argument, I've said all along we've been blooding players the past 3 years. League should be best 15 absolutely. I've said on here before I'd have 3/4 new players brought in at most anyway. Generally speaking the best players in the county available have been in the squad, that hasn't been our problem. Conlon I've mentioned above, and 3 other senior grade players I know of there at the moment would be the only improvement I'd make personally. dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 01/12/2016 16:20:27 1937837 Link 0 |
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Before pitching a young lad like Conlan into the pit of midfield , we should be looking at him in the comer back position . At club level he operates out of a central position at CHB , and looked non plussed in the SFC Final but that's because DA ,didn't challenge Simonstown until they hit their own 45 m line which was too late . If he holds his own at Corner back move him to Half back , and so on . Find his best position at County level , from a size and athletic physique he should fit in at all those positions etc , don't going ruining him by starting him at MF , and discarding him if he does not make it there . As has been the case in recent years . Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 01/12/2016 16:56:40 1937846 Link 0 |
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That's fair enough - couldn't disagree with most of that. I suppose the biggest problem we have at present is that we just don't have any proven midfielders to pick from. Of the players available, the only natural midfielders you have with any experience are Adam Flanagan or Cian O'Brien, neither of whom has proven yet that they are county standard. After that you are either sticking lads in who are not natural midfielders (Menton if available, Tormey, Reilly, Harnan, Tobin), trying young untested lads (Jones), or finding a more experienced midfielder from club ranks (?????). Whatever way McEntee decides to go, its going to be a worry. That's why I asked the question about Conlon as he has played in a central position for the club, and at midfield for the college. But I absolutely accept that he would be better tried out in a less demanding position. anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 01/12/2016 19:25:33 1937888 Link 6 |
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Did I once mention either of those players. All I said was it's good to see them winning and I wondered what players we would miss for the O'Byrne. Stop putting words in my mouth to start and argument and further your own agenda
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1458 - 01/12/2016 19:27:07 1937889 Link 7 |
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Now boys play nicely, we all on same team.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/12/2016 21:00:13 1937912 Link 1 |
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Agreed. Anyway as for Conlon, it's just naive and outdated to suggest he should be in the corner. I said as promising as he looks he's defensively untested, but some on here would have him on a man marking role in the corner on a nippy forward? I don't know what to say sometimes on here; not only does that take away all his strong attributes, it also puts to the fore what we don't actually know he has. Not to mention his physical appearance is just not one of a corner back. I'm not Jim McGuinness but I do wonder what game people are watching in 2016. dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 02/12/2016 04:00:52 1937938 Link 0 |
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I wouldn't worry about it,you get that from time to time here.
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 02/12/2016 08:16:38 1937942 Link 3 |
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Stepping Stones is what's required Dunboyne lad . Put an untested player into a central position and you could be knocking the Confidence out of them . Let them get a foothold. I'm not saying that , he should spend the rest of his life there. But let these type of players establish themselves defensively before dropping them into central positions. Read the post please .
Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 02/12/2016 14:23:53 1938014 Link 0 |
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Sure a while back I mentioned a young minor forward (Finnegan, wasn't on county minor panel) who I saw playing with Senchalstown second team as a player to watch it in the future for Meath and I was lambasted. I hear he is running riot for St Pats in the Leinster schools now so I'll stick by my prediction. Clearly though I was talking about the long term, a few very jumpy lads on here.
Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1318 - 02/12/2016 14:36:23 1938019 Link 6 |
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How are the going to manage with the 50 players on the panel- I thought the games were 15-aside. Does anyone know has Royaldunne got a call up? browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 02/12/2016 16:28:22 1938044 Link 6 |
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Are you sure it's the same player? I know there was a young Finnegan who got a nasty injury for their Junior B team in their last championship game, maybe your thinking of him?
Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 02/12/2016 16:45:20 1938051 Link 4 |