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Replying To royaldunne:  "Indeed Ollie for me its all about cilles and Rosemount, best luck to Louth champion v Rhode. Will you head to pt to see inter final?"
Royaldunne I doubt it. Are you close to Rosemouth yourself in Westmeath? The Cilles will probably be the bookies favs.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 15/11/2016 13:52:19    1934359

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Replying To OLLIE:  "Royaldunne I doubt it. Are you close to Rosemouth yourself in Westmeath? The Cilles will probably be the bookies favs."
I am unfortunately Ollie, neighbouring club. But good bit of banter.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/11/2016 14:23:04    1934372

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I am unfortunately Ollie, neighbouring club. But good bit of banter."
Ah you can't bate the banter Royaldunne. I heard you are going to wear a Rosemouth top for a week if they beat the Cilles ha.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 15/11/2016 15:10:56    1934395

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Replying To 1stPoster:  "STown were the better team for the 1st 15 mins and last 10 of this game. They were only a point down when SOR got the 2nd yellow. Maybe he should have held back but the other player milked it big time. Rhode had a call for their players to go down at various stages and the ref bought them each time. 2 dubious 'points' and a strew of bad decisions (he was bad at times for Rhode also it must be said) left it very difficult for ST. The free given against Brian Conlon when he was pulled down for instance was a joke. COR ended up in the stand remonstrating that call. Not having Nash was the biggest loss though.
There's no doubt Meath teams are close but whoever the next winners are will need the full support of the co board & also the other senior clubs to an extent. One of Rhode mgt team said at the end that they had watched ST's last 3 games on video. It is a free world but if you are representing your county, then maybe a little bit of loyalty could be shown from the other clubs? It would be better if the winners had more time to prepare also. 2 weeks between the co final and 1st round of Leinster does not help progression. But then again, the co board would have to change their priorities for that to happen."
They definitely targeted SOR as 3 players went down at different stages during the game after tackles from him as if they'd been shot.
Rhode had a bit more experience and you could tell it meant more to them. It was really bonus territory for Siminonstown.
There was good highlights on TG4 last night of the Simonstown game, might be available to watch it online.

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 569 - 15/11/2016 18:39:56    1934468

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Colm cilles must have great chance not they to used to Navan but they will feel at home

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 21/11/2016 15:59:42    1935780

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Replying To Brownepat:  "Colm cilles must have great chance not they to used to Navan but they will feel at home"
Its a 50/50 game, I know a fair bit about Rosemount and they wont be push overs, best team cilles have met this year. It will be tough but here's hoping.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 21/11/2016 17:05:07    1935793

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Lesson from the last two weekends is Meath clubs need to smarten up if they're to progress in the club competitions. Carrickshock were the masters of the dark arts and had plenty of hurling to go with it. Pleasure to watch Michael Rice and Richie Power in full swing on a Meath pitch and Kiltale able to go toe to toe with them. Shows how Kiltale are held in such high regard in other counties that Carrickshock had so much homework done, even traveled up the night before to prepare.

Rhode done the same to Simonstown with SOR red card. Cynicism/cuteness (whatever you want to call it) it's what Kiltale and Simonstown were lacking.

begining (UK) - Posts: 300 - 21/11/2016 17:07:14    1935794

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I see the Colmcilles manager reckons the standard of football is higher in Westmeath than it is in Meath.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 24/11/2016 12:53:57    1936421

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "I see the Colmcilles manager reckons the standard of football is higher in Westmeath than it is in Meath."
Senior level I would agree but not junior or inter

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 631 - 24/11/2016 13:14:16    1936430

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "I see the Colmcilles manager reckons the standard of football is higher in Westmeath than it is in Meath."
Sadly, all recent evidence would suggest that he is correct.

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 24/11/2016 13:58:15    1936438

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Replying To anfearbeag:  "Sadly, all recent evidence would suggest that he is correct."
Really? For a start Westmeath are in dv4. Meath clubs have had a better record in Intermediate too.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 24/11/2016 15:27:40    1936468

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Really? For a start Westmeath are in dv4. Meath clubs have had a better record in Intermediate too."
And Westmeath have been in the last 2 Leinster finals, including beating us along the way to reach one of them, and our senior clubs have done nothing at Leinster level, not even reaching a Leinster final in the past 10 years. I take your point about intermediate teams though!

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 24/11/2016 15:42:33    1936472

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Really? For a start Westmeath are in dv4. Meath clubs have had a better record in Intermediate too."
Westmeath football is no better than Meath, they may have reached the last two Leinster Finals but on both occasions they were aided by utterly unexplainable collapses by Meath and Kildare, credit where it's due they capitalised but they should have been bet out the gate in both matches if the opposition had been any way right, their supposed distain towards the league is a bit of a smokescreen they simply weren't good enough to avoid Division 4. It takes a special kind of wonderful to go from Division 1 to Division 4 in successive campaigns so I think the Cillies manager is blowing a bit of smoke up their backsides with that comment.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 24/11/2016 15:46:22    1936475

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Replying To Richieq:  "Westmeath football is no better than Meath, they may have reached the last two Leinster Finals but on both occasions they were aided by utterly unexplainable collapses by Meath and Kildare, credit where it's due they capitalised but they should have been bet out the gate in both matches if the opposition had been any way right, their supposed distain towards the league is a bit of a smokescreen they simply weren't good enough to avoid Division 4. It takes a special kind of wonderful to go from Division 1 to Division 4 in successive campaigns so I think the Cillies manager is blowing a bit of smoke up their backsides with that comment."
I would agree with you and add that the Cilles manager should know a little more about senior football inside the county as the team he managed won very few if any matches in the senior league and was relegated. How a team does in intermediate in Leinster has little to do with how the county team is managed or indeed the standard of senior football. Ratoath got to All-Ireland and made little impact in senior championship and have not yet played in the senior league. When we won All-Irelands we did not do well in the Leinster Club- I suspect that many of the guys posting about our senior clubs are mainly guys who at best only ever managed to play lower grade football and are now the experts. Now that is not to say that Junior clubs produce some excellent footballers, the problem being that because the have small catchments they do not have enough top quality players top to compete at a higher level. If you take the Dublin club champions out of the equation then you could toss a coin between the rest - like it has been for many of the last 30+years.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 24/11/2016 16:26:58    1936494

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Replying To browncows:  "I would agree with you and add that the Cilles manager should know a little more about senior football inside the county as the team he managed won very few if any matches in the senior league and was relegated. How a team does in intermediate in Leinster has little to do with how the county team is managed or indeed the standard of senior football. Ratoath got to All-Ireland and made little impact in senior championship and have not yet played in the senior league. When we won All-Irelands we did not do well in the Leinster Club- I suspect that many of the guys posting about our senior clubs are mainly guys who at best only ever managed to play lower grade football and are now the experts. Now that is not to say that Junior clubs produce some excellent footballers, the problem being that because the have small catchments they do not have enough top quality players top to compete at a higher level. If you take the Dublin club champions out of the equation then you could toss a coin between the rest - like it has been for many of the last 30+years."
St. Colmcilles haven't been relegated but are in a promotion/relegation playoff in the League with Blackhall Gaels to be played in early December.

jackhackett (Meath) - Posts: 773 - 24/11/2016 16:39:28    1936500

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Replying To Richieq:  "Westmeath football is no better than Meath, they may have reached the last two Leinster Finals but on both occasions they were aided by utterly unexplainable collapses by Meath and Kildare, credit where it's due they capitalised but they should have been bet out the gate in both matches if the opposition had been any way right, their supposed distain towards the league is a bit of a smokescreen they simply weren't good enough to avoid Division 4. It takes a special kind of wonderful to go from Division 1 to Division 4 in successive campaigns so I think the Cillies manager is blowing a bit of smoke up their backsides with that comment."
agreed 100%

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 24/11/2016 19:07:10    1936532

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Replying To Richieq:  "Westmeath football is no better than Meath, they may have reached the last two Leinster Finals but on both occasions they were aided by utterly unexplainable collapses by Meath and Kildare, credit where it's due they capitalised but they should have been bet out the gate in both matches if the opposition had been any way right, their supposed distain towards the league is a bit of a smokescreen they simply weren't good enough to avoid Division 4. It takes a special kind of wonderful to go from Division 1 to Division 4 in successive campaigns so I think the Cillies manager is blowing a bit of smoke up their backsides with that comment."
Maybe a bit of mind games, but I would hazard a guess that the likes of st lomans, garycaatle , and maybe even shamrocks would win the Meath senior championship without much hassle. Actually the likes of the downs, tyrrellspass, moate etc would compete well with omahonys simonstown na fianna tones etc. Does that mean a higher standard? No not with individual players but with the club structures, also club football comes first I wm, the county is a after thought.
I am very wary of Rosemount they are a decent outfit and will do well in senior next year, you wont see any of the antics of dunderry , they will go man to man, they firmly believe they better than cilles, and my neighbours ain't saying this to wind me up, they are a damn decent outfit, I actually think they would be very highly rated in meath. It'll be tough, cillea will need to be on our best performance, focused, and clinical when we get chances, cause Rosemount will be. I am really looking forward to this but I'm nervous also.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 24/11/2016 19:09:21    1936533

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Rosemount good team was a strong senior club years ago and are playing Junior and Intermediate last number of years. Rural area and word is that they keep themselves to themselves pretty parochial or clannish might be apt. Colmcilles in the past may not have had this trait but I think this team has something more than over past 10/15 years. Ben Brennan back is a good plus and the two week break will have helps the few niggles. Colmcilles dont do stuff easy but with edge it by a couple

numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 24/11/2016 19:50:51    1936542

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Maybe a bit of mind games, but I would hazard a guess that the likes of st lomans, garycaatle , and maybe even shamrocks would win the Meath senior championship without much hassle. Actually the likes of the downs, tyrrellspass, moate etc would compete well with omahonys simonstown na fianna tones etc. Does that mean a higher standard? No not with individual players but with the club structures, also club football comes first I wm, the county is a after thought.
I am very wary of Rosemount they are a decent outfit and will do well in senior next year, you wont see any of the antics of dunderry , they will go man to man, they firmly believe they better than cilles, and my neighbours ain't saying this to wind me up, they are a damn decent outfit, I actually think they would be very highly rated in meath. It'll be tough, cillea will need to be on our best performance, focused, and clinical when we get chances, cause Rosemount will be. I am really looking forward to this but I'm nervous also."
So by what you are saying you expect St Colmcilles to be at the business end of the championship next considering how poor the Meath Senior Championship is

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 569 - 24/11/2016 20:48:33    1936558

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When was the last time a Westmeath club beat a Meath club? Genuine question.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 24/11/2016 22:24:08    1936572

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