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What would b wrong with Shane mcanarney getting nominated he meath man and gave all for meath. Had as much experience as micko so entitled to b heard at least.i feel with Andy McEntee he got lot of luck in the club championship not knocking he achievements but at inter county a bit more than that is needed.he seems everyones favourite thou so let's see time will tell. Had plenty of financial backing in Dublin can't see that with this co board thou. Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 05/08/2016 13:37:09 1896226 Link 0 |
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It's hardly that funny. Deadline for nominations was 4pm last Friday so clubs would have been sending them in up to close of business last Friday (and possibly after that!) It was a bank holiday weekend so there would not have been anyone back working in Dunganny until Tuesday. Royal_Gunner (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 05/08/2016 14:23:28 1896254 Link 0 |
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I suppose its the silly season regarding Meath football. Unfortunately instead of worrying about nominations we should have been looking forward to a quarter final which is where we should have been. Reappointment of Mick O'Dowd last year without him even having a backroom team was totally wrong and now proven to be wrong and the clubs should take those that made that decision to task. Another lame duck year for Meath football and these continuing under performances means we are drifting further from the teams we should be up with and we are also losing interest from supporters especially younger people who are becoming more and more apathetic about it all. Regarding the chronicle, I wouldn't have any problem with the piece on the nominations, they reported as much as they knew. They do need to be more critical of the county board when stuff like the above is going on. trim1 (Meath) - Posts: 162 - 05/08/2016 15:52:36 1896293 Link 0 |
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Ah it's still a pretty lame excuse no matter what way you look at it. I know it was a bank holiday weekend but I would have thought that nominations for Meath manager was a pretty big deal to Meath fans (perhaps I'm naive thinking that). So maybe someone could have came in late on Friday and let the fans know who got nominated, that's not a huge ask in fairness. Anyway we know the craic now, so moving on. Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 05/08/2016 18:50:57 1896378 Link 3 |
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To say Andy McEntee was lucky in winning the , for me I don`t think that is a fair correct. Yes there`s no gurantee of success when you appoint any manager. There has been examples of managers sucessfull in other codes eg Alan Muholland and not delivering success. But prior success can be a really good indicator. In the last 25 years , 95% of All Ireland winning managers achieved success at All Ireland level in other codes. For example Mickey Harte, Pete McGrath, Joe Kiernan, Eamon Fitzmaurice, Jimmy McGuinness and Jim Galvin all won or atl least reached an All Ireland final at minor, schools, U21 and club level. Only Pat Gilroy and Conor Coulihan have won an All Ireland without prior success at All Ireland level at U21, minor or club level. So if you want to win an All Ireland you need to appoint a manger that has at least played in an All Ireland final at another level. The two nearest codes to senior inter county would be U21 and Club. Andy McEntee is the only Meathman that fits that bill. Not only does he have the best CV in Meath football at the moment, but has one of the best if not the best managerial CV in the country for a young manager who has not yet managed at inter county level. If Meath don`t appoint him I could see Cavan and Laois headhutting him this year. And counties like Monaghan, Armagh, Down, Offaly and Kildare looking for services in the next few years. What makes his CV so good is that he has reached All Ireland final at two different levels. Its a better CV then James Horan ,Jimmy McGuiness or Stephen Rochford had before they entered the inter county stage. Its similar to what Mickey Harte and Pete McGrath CV were before they took the senior job. Thee twon above achieved success at two different levels. Im not saying Andy is the new Mickey Harte. We dont know how good Andy can become. But looking as his CV you cannot but be impressed. He is the only Meath man to manage a Meath team in an All Ireland final at minor, schools, Club and U21 level in the last ten years. I think that he could be the only manager to manage a Leinster team in minor All Ireland final ( other then Dublin) in the last ten years. Even before he takes the Meath job he is one of the most successful manager in GAA history. In that he joins the list of All Ireland winning Meath managers. The list would be Father Tully, Peter McDermont, Sean Boylan, Paul Kenny, Colm O`Rourke and Andy McEntee. He is the only Meath man to mange an All Ireland winning club team. Tonny1975 (Mayo) - Posts: 114 - 05/08/2016 19:12:39 1896387 Link 0 |
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That victory with Boden was significant in that in my view that team was the poorest Dublin team to win Club All Ireland ever . The Vincent teams of the 70s and now, Ballymun, Na Fianna were much superior outfits. Even in this year Dublin championship there were five better teams then Boden eg Ballymun, St. Vincents, Oliver Plunketts, Parnells. If you named the ten best club team in Ireland I dont think Ballyboden would even get on the list. Crossmaglen and Nemo would be much superior outfits. But what was even more impressive was how they won. With great comebacks, great one point victories and scoring great winning scores in the dying minutes of games. Who does that remind you off , The Meath teams of the 80s and 90s of course. While Colm Keaney and Michael Dara McAuley have raved about him . McCauley said he was the best manager he has worked with and he has been managed by Jim Galvin and Pat Gilroy. So yes there is no gurantee of success but when you examine his CV he is the by far the best candidate and the best option by a metric mile. The only question I would ask why are the county board taking so long. He should have been apointted ASAP.
Tonny1975 (Mayo) - Posts: 114 - 05/08/2016 19:13:22 1896388 Link 0 |
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I should have said Andy McEntee was already one of the most successful managers in Meath GAA history instead of GAA history . My mistake. Tonny1975 (Mayo) - Posts: 114 - 05/08/2016 19:16:58 1896389 Link 0 |
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There's no doubt that McEntee is the best option because he has the best cv but of course we'd be naive to think that appointing him would guarantee success. There's still a lot of problems in Meath football, our uncompetitive club championship and lack of top level players being 2 very significant problems, and any manager will find this a tough challenge. But again McEntee is a proven winner, he's also a much tougher character than O'Dowd and I'm not entirely convinced that the County Board and him are great buddies and perhaps that's where the hesitation in appointing him is coming from. Oh sure there's an official process to undergo, but given the kangaroo reappointment of O'Dowd last year, I'm pretty sure the County Board can get around procedure when it suits them. Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 05/08/2016 20:16:36 1896404 Link 3 |
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Where would we be now if Andy was appointed 4 year ago? bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 05/08/2016 21:14:14 1896420 Link 1 |
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Indeed.. Gerry Mc also called Meath players soft a few years ago.You can be sure of a management team that consists of both McEntee brothers will sort that out.. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 05/08/2016 21:21:51 1896425 Link 1 |
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Interesting. But perhaps now is the best time for him? Especially as Gerry is available now too.. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 05/08/2016 21:56:18 1896443 Link 1 |
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Tony1975 quote:'Even in this year Dublin championship there were five better teams then Boden eg Ballymun, St. Vincents, Oliver Plunketts, Parnells' That is a rubbish statement- you only win a competition by being the best. I do say he is easily the best for the job inside the county. You check out some of the statements you have made! When did the county last reach an u21 final? browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 05/08/2016 22:00:39 1896444 Link 4 |
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Ballyboden were the fifth best team in Dublin last year. They were fifth favourites in the betting. St.Vincents are the best club team in Dublin. Ask anyone in the know, they wil tell u the same. There best club team in the country. Ballymun are former All Ireland champions , and are a better team then boden also . Oliver Plunketts led by the Borgans hav been very unlucky in the last few years, and been knocking on the door in the last few years. I would consider them a better all round team then Boden. Boden r a massive club , but they are hurling club, they hav only won 2 Dublin titles. It was not big deal a Dublin team winning an All Ireland club, but the surprise was it was Ballyboden. I don't understand question regarding Meath in an Under 21 final, I would say the last time was in 1992 or 1993 when Meath won their only U21 title. Any other stats I made r correct, Pinpoint the ones that r incorrect. Tonny1975 (Mayo) - Posts: 114 - 05/08/2016 23:31:53 1896475 Link 0 |
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Gerry as part of the ticket would be a massive coup. Gerry McEntee was in the running for the Meath job before Sean Boylan even though he was still a player. He was also involved with Kilkenny hurlers for year. They used to thank him in All Ireland acceptance speechs. The McEntee will not gurantee success, there is massive problems in Meath football. But with the McEntees on the sideline the county would have a managerial team that could go toe to toe with any county team in the country even the Dubs. Tonny1975 (Mayo) - Posts: 114 - 05/08/2016 23:36:46 1896479 Link 0 |
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Yeah I think the biggest issues Meath have had is belief,mental toughness and physical fitness. It may take time but I can see the McEntee's addressing this.In my opinion we still have some fine players.I don't see us throwing away too many huge leads with these lads in charge.
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 06/08/2016 09:50:51 1896509 Link 1 |
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Don't mess with Tony he knows his facts :) talking a lot of sense there. bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 06/08/2016 10:44:02 1896519 Link 0 |
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Tonny1975 -On Gerry McEntee I do know that he did a excellent job with St B bringing them to win a county title from knowhere. On Ballyboden they had one of the best keepers in the game (Donegal) and were very luck to beat Clonnel Comercial due to a poor Ref decision with a guy taking 8/9 step to bring the game into extra time. Anyway I wish whoever gets the job the very best of luck. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 06/08/2016 11:02:56 1896528 Link 4 |
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It is between McEntee and Barry. Only one winner surely.Barry hasn't done a great job with the U21's imo ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 06/08/2016 16:53:01 1896652 Link 1 |
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no contest ..no disrespect to Sean Barry
WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 06/08/2016 17:35:11 1896666 Link 2 |
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You wouldn't know what will happen, knowing this county board I wouldn't be surprised if Mick O'Dowd got reappointed. Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 06/08/2016 17:44:44 1896675 Link 4 |