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Replying To ziggy32001: "Trevor was part of the last regime,he comes across here as if he hopes that new management don't improve things because that would show that the last regime didn't do a good job." Yeah looks bad from Trevor side alright but he just standing up for his buddy.the cull I feel was micko down fall got rid of to many strong characters ball winners, then he went to look to biggy to lead,he class ball player but no leader.say there is more to McEntee than just passion but picking the right players to do a job and be aggressive and ready for a battle,this what we need. Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 28/10/2016 10:06:50 1929764 Link
Replying To oldsam_newsam: "I agree with the core point that you need 3 or 4 top class players to bring a team on. I would even say a top class midfielder (John McDermott type) and a scoring forward (Stephen Bray / Bernard Flynn / Colm O'Rourke type) would bring Meath a long way. But he lost me with his comment " Jaysus, Mick O'Dowd was a very passionate man". Sure we are all passionate for Meath football, that is totally different to instilling that in teams which I am still hoping the new management can do." Exactly nobody is saying that MOD is not a passionate Meathman,sure we all are.Passion is not what makes you a top manager though. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 28/10/2016 11:52:55 1929785 Link
Replying To Reco: "Yeah looks bad from Trevor side alright but he just standing up for his buddy.the cull I feel was micko down fall got rid of to many strong characters ball winners, then he went to look to biggy to lead,he class ball player but no leader.say there is more to McEntee than just passion but picking the right players to do a job and be aggressive and ready for a battle,this what we need." Having to plan without Nash is disappointing RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 28/10/2016 12:00:36 1929786 Link
"If you are playing in the Leinster championship, you want to be winning it, so this acceptance of us being middle tier is something that I didn't grow up with. "A lot of people out there just seem to have accepted it, and that's not something I'd be keen on at all" --Andy Mcentee ------------------------------- Unfortunately Trevor appears to be one of those that accepts us as being middle tier. A shame really. Glad he is no longer involved in the setup. bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 28/10/2016 19:38:28 1929920 Link
Replying To bert09: ""If you are playing in the Leinster championship, you want to be winning it, so this acceptance of us being middle tier is something that I didn't grow up with. "A lot of people out there just seem to have accepted it, and that's not something I'd be keen on at all" --Andy Mcentee ------------------------------- Unfortunately Trevor appears to be one of those that accepts us as being middle tier. A shame really. Glad he is no longer involved in the setup." 100% agree with that. I mean he talked about div 1 as it was so out of our reach. Cop on Trevor if you or mod had done what you should have done Meath would have been in division 1 under your tenure. You were a fantastic player, a great physio, but not a great sideline man . For all bantys faults he didn't try to have a dig at mod, and if I recall correctly neither did graham Geraghty ( Trevor perhaps a leaf out of that book might be a option) one final thing I am a passionate Meath man, few id say more passionate, however, I wouldn't have a bulls notion how to train Meath seniors properly, neither did micko. Fact. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/10/2016 21:08:26 1929935 Link
Time will tell, no matter how good the chef is he needs to have ingredients to produce a quality meal..... Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 29/10/2016 09:49:36 1929982 Link
"If you are playing in the Leinster championship, you want to be winning it, so this acceptance of us being middle tier is something that I didn't grow up with. "A lot of people out there just seem to have accepted it, and that's not something I'd be keen on at all" --Andy Mcentee So are people honestly expecting him to deliver one next year? And if he doesn't will those same people be calling for his head? Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 29/10/2016 16:11:52 1930047 Link
Replying To meath1967: "Trevor Giles, is anyone else a bit surprised at the timing & some of the content in the highly publicised comments of Trevor Giles today. http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/trevor-giles-passion-wont-bridge-the-talent-gap-in-meath-427743.html While he makes some good points, I cant see the point of highlighting today MOD as a passionate man and how only Keogan of the current players would in his opinion be of exceptional standard. Belief is so important for inter county players to be successful. McEntee's new management are just starting to put in place the basis for the future Meath team. How do these comments today help progress this?" I would have thought "passion" would be an entry level qualification for a job like this... Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 29/10/2016 16:20:48 1930051 Link
Replying To Wedgie: ""If you are playing in the Leinster championship, you want to be winning it, so this acceptance of us being middle tier is something that I didn't grow up with. "A lot of people out there just seem to have accepted it, and that's not something I'd be keen on at all" --Andy Mcentee So are people honestly expecting him to deliver one next year? And if he doesn't will those same people be calling for his head?" No No Any other questions? anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 29/10/2016 18:10:31 1930064 Link
Replying To Wedgie: ""If you are playing in the Leinster championship, you want to be winning it, so this acceptance of us being middle tier is something that I didn't grow up with. "A lot of people out there just seem to have accepted it, and that's not something I'd be keen on at all" --Andy Mcentee So are people honestly expecting him to deliver one next year? And if he doesn't will those same people be calling for his head?" No to first question And absolutely no to second question. It will take Andy a few years to undo the past mistakes, however I would be hugely surprised if we saw the abject uninspiring heartless displays , followed by lame pathetic excuses that we have come unfortunately accustomed to. That is all we ask, we are not as good as dubs and wont be for awhile, but with Andy and go at least we will have a plan A, never mind a plan B which has been sadly missing. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/10/2016 20:01:36 1930084 Link
Which players made themselves unavailable for the panel when MOD was in charge? And which of those are likely to come back into the fold? Also are anyof the experienced players discarded by MOD likely to be recalled? Sorry for the questions, but being in Glasgow means I don't have my finger on the pulse as much as you guys. GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 31/10/2016 18:14:05 1930465 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "No to first question And absolutely no to second question. It will take Andy a few years to undo the past mistakes, however I would be hugely surprised if we saw the abject uninspiring heartless displays , followed by lame pathetic excuses that we have come unfortunately accustomed to. That is all we ask, we are not as good as dubs and wont be for awhile, but with Andy and go at least we will have a plan A, never mind a plan B which has been sadly missing." Time will tell Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 31/10/2016 19:31:07 1930484 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "No to first question And absolutely no to second question. It will take Andy a few years to undo the past mistakes, however I would be hugely surprised if we saw the abject uninspiring heartless displays , followed by lame pathetic excuses that we have come unfortunately accustomed to. That is all we ask, we are not as good as dubs and wont be for awhile, but with Andy and go at least we will have a plan A, never mind a plan B which has been sadly missing." Nice to see we're going to give Andy the time and space he needs to deliver a title when we weren't so supportive of Banty when he tried to do the same. I've always said it will take at least another five years before we even get a sniff of an AI, people will have to accept that until we get to that level we're basically going to be making up the numbers and finishing middle tier at best. Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 31/10/2016 21:27:45 1930521 Link
What I do hope we see under Andy is an end to to losing games that we had easily won half or three quarters ways through the game, games like the Westmeath game, the Cavan League match earlier this year and the game to Wexford a few years back. Meath wining by 10 points and then end up losing by a point or 2. For years Meath were known as the team that wasn't beating until the ref had blown his final whistle. But in recent years we have become known as a team that can be beaten in the last 5 minutes of any game if put under attack, this has to stop, in fairness to the previous management this trend seams to have started in the All Ireland Final of 2001 against Galway. Can Andy lead Meath to division 1 or an All Ireland in his first or second year. I don't know and no one does. No one is putting any pressure on him to do so either. But what everyone wants is an improved performance, a clear plan and an ability to win matches which are close in the final 5 minutes. Are there players in Meath to do this, I would think the talent is there but have they the mindset to do it, that is Andy's biggest task. This maybe the wrong phrase but players should fear going back into the dressing room if they have't given 100% on the pitch. If they do give it their all then the supporters will be happy. Even against Dublin this years supporters were not disappointed with the loss but they were disappointed at the players willingness to sit back after half time and accept the loss, because Dublin were beatable in that game if the players had the right attitude because the Dublin attitude in that game was very complacent they played in second gear for the whole game. anto_meath (Meath) - Posts: 108 - 01/11/2016 17:16:57 1930716 Link
Replying To Wedgie: ""If you are playing in the Leinster championship, you want to be winning it, so this acceptance of us being middle tier is something that I didn't grow up with. "A lot of people out there just seem to have accepted it, and that's not something I'd be keen on at all" --Andy Mcentee So are people honestly expecting him to deliver one next year? And if he doesn't will those same people be calling for his head?" Just remember he also said "the secret to good management is good players". I look forward to him unearthing the hidden gems of footballers that some people on this forum seem to think are hidden under rocks around Meath somewhere. no.123 (Meath) - Posts: 18 - 03/11/2016 22:29:15 1931373 Link
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Replying To no.123: "Just remember he also said "the secret to good management is good players". I look forward to him unearthing the hidden gems of footballers that some people on this forum seem to think are hidden under rocks around Meath somewhere." A answer to your question is simple , the players mod had are better than they achieved, the second half collapses on nearly every occasion proved this, under mod we only won the second half v Wexford and Wicklow, every other game we lost, we are better than that, that is not fixed by finding new players that is fixed by the same players knowing they will be petrified of going into dressing room after match , rather than knowing they will be told go for a pint and ill make up some excuses to the press, perhaps blame the fans for over expecting. That's all they need to become a top 8 team is a top manager, we have that now. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 06/11/2016 10:52:00 1932006 Link
Here is an interesting one for you. The last time Simonstown won a championship was the intermediate vs Castletown in 1995. Meath had lost to Dublin by 10 points that year and we all know what happened in 1996. A team of youngsters went on to win Sam. We lost to Dublin this year by 10 points. Simonstown won the senior by 9 points whereas they only won the IFC in 1995 by a single point. Jimin10 (Meath) - Posts: 783 - 06/11/2016 12:56:41 1932031 Link
Replying To Jimin10: "Here is an interesting one for you. The last time Simonstown won a championship was the intermediate vs Castletown in 1995. Meath had lost to Dublin by 10 points that year and we all know what happened in 1996. A team of youngsters went on to win Sam. We lost to Dublin this year by 10 points. Simonstown won the senior by 9 points whereas they only won the IFC in 1995 by a single point." Wow that makes a lot of sense Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 06/11/2016 13:38:51 1932042 Link
Replying To Analyst: "Wow that makes a lot of sense" It's a whimsical post looking at potential coincidences. No need for every single post to be serious and negative. Far too much of that on here at times. GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 07/11/2016 20:24:15 1932517 Link