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Replying To username.if:  "You make some good points all of which are hampering our progress. That stat is poor but I'm sure a lot of other counties have that problem too. Indeed our underage is improving from 14/18 but what happens then? It seems we've no plan or strategy from 18/21 of last year's minor panel I think only 4 made it to 21s. What's happening the other 30 players? Do we just leave them to work hard with there clubs in the hope one or two have what it takes to make senior. Why don't these lads continue with development squads for s+c and possible in house games between all from 18/21. Maybe give these players tailored training to go along with club training as it's not as intense as county. This would give them a chance when 21 to make the grade. There 25 players or more each year from minor squads just forgotten about after all the hard work but in by players and coaches from 14/18. It just doesn't make sense to me"
That's a good point username.if, I'm not sure exactly what our plan is regarding progression from minor to U21. I think we're starting to turn the corner at underage development, so it will be interesting to see what happens over the next 2-3 years regarding progression at the later stages.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 12/07/2016 10:00:50    1881570

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Replying To bobkarlgees:  "Is Andy Mc Antee free at the moment ? Did he finish with Ballyboden ?"
not sure if he is or not but thats the man for the job but will he take it

srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 12/07/2016 11:48:04    1881656

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Replying To srgt_slaughter:  "not sure if he is or not but thats the man for the job but will he take it"
I don't think he is free, but I dont think that will stop him, if he is approached.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 12/07/2016 11:53:55    1881663

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Whether true or not but I have been told by someone I would consider reliable that he is interested in the job..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 12/07/2016 12:11:29    1881685

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Whether true or not but I have been told by someone I would consider reliable that he is interested in the job.."
I hope that is the case ziggy, I know rushing things isn't usually for the best but it would be nice to know where we stand regarding candidates and the selection process as soon as possible.

The more club championship football our manager gets to see the better. It would also be an ideal opportunity for club players to impress a new manager.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 12/07/2016 12:39:33    1881724

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Replying To Htaem:  "I hope that is the case ziggy, I know rushing things isn't usually for the best but it would be nice to know where we stand regarding candidates and the selection process as soon as possible.

The more club championship football our manager gets to see the better. It would also be an ideal opportunity for club players to impress a new manager."
Yeah not the usual way of going, but these are extraordinary times, so protocol can be suspended, ziggy I think with ward coming out it was a given that Andy was interested, if you get what I mean.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 12/07/2016 12:49:59    1881735

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Replying To Htaem:  "I hope that is the case ziggy, I know rushing things isn't usually for the best but it would be nice to know where we stand regarding candidates and the selection process as soon as possible.

The more club championship football our manager gets to see the better. It would also be an ideal opportunity for club players to impress a new manager."
Indeed..

Do you remember what month it was when MOD was reappointed?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 12/07/2016 13:11:12    1881760

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Replying To bobkarlgees:  "Thanks Ollie :)"
No probs Bob.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 12/07/2016 13:31:34    1881784

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He has to be approached first before being interested is even relevant.

Anyway the Dublin championship will run til October, if he did win that again he'd face the prospect of another run til Paddys day, or close enough to it, which would be the exact same time we'll be back training so it'd have to be solved well before then. Not to mention our own championship will be in full swing soon.

There's only one name being talked about in the dressing room too, hopefully common sense will prevail.

dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 12/07/2016 13:56:25    1881810

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Indeed..

Do you remember what month it was when MOD was reappointed?"
October I think ziggy, hopefully things get done a bit quicker this time though.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 12/07/2016 14:04:01    1881817

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Yeah not the usual way of going, but these are extraordinary times, so protocol can be suspended, ziggy I think with ward coming out it was a given that Andy was interested, if you get what I mean."
We have a habit of appointing managers in late autumn, or basically when the club champsionships are over and to be honest I think that's too late.

I don't know exactly what the county board are doing at the minute but they should be meeting up this week to discuss the protocol for selecting a new manager and getting that information out to the clubs as soon as possible. I think it would be no harm if we could get a manager in place before September, so he can take in the club champsionships.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 12/07/2016 14:14:50    1881825

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Replying To Htaem:  "We have a habit of appointing managers in late autumn, or basically when the club champsionships are over and to be honest I think that's too late.

I don't know exactly what the county board are doing at the minute but they should be meeting up this week to discuss the protocol for selecting a new manager and getting that information out to the clubs as soon as possible. I think it would be no harm if we could get a manager in place before September, so he can take in the club champsionships."
URGENT APPOINTMENT NEEDED..........

Over the last few days i have watched replyays of Meath games under Micko.The one game which everyone should watch is 2013.In this game against the Dubs we stood toe to toe with them for almost the whole game.What i did notice is that yes we needed some new players but our appetite and will to win and most of all we were not afraid of Dublin.
Roll onto this year and it shows Micko had lost total faith in himself or the Team beating Dublin.Another thing is if you look at our results in the Championship apart from the 2014 final which we were clueless against the Dubs we had chances and Team to win all other Games.
What i am basically saying is with the right Manager- Andy and proper back room Team and a proper adjusments and game plan with right players we are not as far off as people think.Our panel is young enough and after talking to a very savy Tyrone man on Saturday at the game he said Meath need a change in attidude and Manager and they will be back.

Team fo next year..
Goalie-An another..
Keogan Mcgill Tobin
Harnan Power Smyth
Menton Rooney
Mcentee o sullivan Douglas.
Newman Biggy Wallace..

Bench-Gillespie?O rourke?Lavin O Coillean.OBrien Carroll Burke Forde - A few more who impress during winter and League...
Good team and bench..Half forward line full of energy ,pace and brains..
Full forward line full of scores with biggy as free role..
Any thoughts....

tampa (Meath) - Posts: 54 - 12/07/2016 15:07:34    1881880

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I'd like the job. Upon getting the job I'd meet all the players and have a banner of the following behind me, "It's football, not rocket science". I'd ask them to think about that, schedule our next meeting for a week later and leave it at that for the first meeting.

mawmouther (Meath) - Posts: 109 - 12/07/2016 15:15:23    1881895

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Replying To tampa:  "URGENT APPOINTMENT NEEDED..........

Over the last few days i have watched replyays of Meath games under Micko.The one game which everyone should watch is 2013.In this game against the Dubs we stood toe to toe with them for almost the whole game.What i did notice is that yes we needed some new players but our appetite and will to win and most of all we were not afraid of Dublin.
Roll onto this year and it shows Micko had lost total faith in himself or the Team beating Dublin.Another thing is if you look at our results in the Championship apart from the 2014 final which we were clueless against the Dubs we had chances and Team to win all other Games.
What i am basically saying is with the right Manager- Andy and proper back room Team and a proper adjusments and game plan with right players we are not as far off as people think.Our panel is young enough and after talking to a very savy Tyrone man on Saturday at the game he said Meath need a change in attidude and Manager and they will be back.

Team fo next year..
Goalie-An another..
Keogan Mcgill Tobin
Harnan Power Smyth
Menton Rooney
Mcentee o sullivan Douglas.
Newman Biggy Wallace..

Bench-Gillespie?O rourke?Lavin O Coillean.OBrien Carroll Burke Forde - A few more who impress during winter and League...
Good team and bench..Half forward line full of energy ,pace and brains..
Full forward line full of scores with biggy as free role..
Any thoughts...."
I would not bother naming teams at this point,but I agree with your overall sentiments.With a good manager,you will see a massive difference..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 12/07/2016 15:32:50    1881917

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tampa (Meath) - I'd be very happy that you are not going to be manager next year as you certainly would not go very far. Some of those guys you have listed were very poor the last day out in the second half when the pressure was put on and that is not the first occasion. I do not think you can pass the buck on to MOD for the second half collapse. I would leave the new manager to select and just hope that he adjusts the panel somewhat. Someone else has posted about talk in the dressing room - I think some players may need to look at themselves.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 12/07/2016 16:18:22    1881955

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One of the biggest problems throughout Micko's reign had been injuries and this has really hindered our progress.

Gillespie, O'Rourke, Flanagan and O'Sullivan (up until this year) have all had long term issues. Gillespie and O'Sullivan would have been regulars in the team and Flanagan along with a fully fit O'Rourke would definitely have contributed. This year we were without McGill, McEntee and Power for the championship. McGill and McEntee would most certainly have started and Power would have been there or thereabouts. Even the likes of McMahon, Newman and Wallace have all had their problems over the last couple of years which has undoubtedly hindered their development.

As a supporter, I found this very frustrating and I'm sure one of Mick's biggest regrets was not being able to field his strongest XV at any stage throughout the 4 years. If you look at some of the top teams like Dublin, Donegal and Mayo, they generally have full picks to choose from.

The one positive to come out of this is that other lads have been given a chance to show what they're made of. If we can get the injured contingent back fit and combine them with what's already there plus some new additions as well as returning ones then I think we'll see vast improvements on the field next year.

MarkMyWords (Meath) - Posts: 498 - 12/07/2016 16:29:00    1881957

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Replying To mawmouther:  "I'd like the job. Upon getting the job I'd meet all the players and have a banner of the following behind me, "It's football, not rocket science". I'd ask them to think about that, schedule our next meeting for a week later and leave it at that for the first meeting."
Are you Sir trying to put a smile back into football :) nice banner by the way!

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 12/07/2016 16:53:42    1881983

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Replying To MarkMyWords:  "One of the biggest problems throughout Micko's reign had been injuries and this has really hindered our progress.

Gillespie, O'Rourke, Flanagan and O'Sullivan (up until this year) have all had long term issues. Gillespie and O'Sullivan would have been regulars in the team and Flanagan along with a fully fit O'Rourke would definitely have contributed. This year we were without McGill, McEntee and Power for the championship. McGill and McEntee would most certainly have started and Power would have been there or thereabouts. Even the likes of McMahon, Newman and Wallace have all had their problems over the last couple of years which has undoubtedly hindered their development.

As a supporter, I found this very frustrating and I'm sure one of Mick's biggest regrets was not being able to field his strongest XV at any stage throughout the 4 years. If you look at some of the top teams like Dublin, Donegal and Mayo, they generally have full picks to choose from.

The one positive to come out of this is that other lads have been given a chance to show what they're made of. If we can get the injured contingent back fit and combine them with what's already there plus some new additions as well as returning ones then I think we'll see vast improvements on the field next year."
I don't know,teams(in general) always have injuries and we have had this problem for a few years now..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 12/07/2016 17:10:26    1881991

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "I don't know,teams(in general) always have injuries and we have had this problem for a few years now.."
We've been plagued with injuries to key players in key positions in recent years. Could be a strength and conditioning problem that needs to be addressed. Either way it's been a serious impediment to our development

MarkMyWords (Meath) - Posts: 498 - 12/07/2016 17:38:05    1882012

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Replying To MarkMyWords:  "We've been plagued with injuries to key players in key positions in recent years. Could be a strength and conditioning problem that needs to be addressed. Either way it's been a serious impediment to our development"
I agree,but it can't ALL be back luck

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 12/07/2016 18:01:07    1882030

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