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Next Meath manager

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Who outside the county would you consider?"
Pat Gilroy, James Horan, would be two that pop to mind, but I doubt either would take it.
The list is not that long, we need someone who can rebuild , a motivator, but also someone who can build up confidence, these players are mentally scared and need someone who they can believe in, that's why I wouldn't pick someone who hasnt got a decent cv,

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/07/2016 20:50:39    1880403

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Replying To Jinxie:  "Well with that in mind, what about Anthony Moyles? As an alternative to A.McE obviously, not ahead of him."
People will say Anthony Moyles is inexperienced as a manger ..But what is experienced as a football manger ? Having gained knowledge or skill in a particular field over time ! But there is a lot of experience mangers out there that won nothing and never will ..you could have a full shooting season for them and still never cull the numbers back in this county ! They all have a good plan but what sorts the men from the boys are the last five minutes of a game when its in the melting pot.."decision making under pressure"..do you take your free taker off :)

Anthony Moyles everyday job is the last 5 mins of a game ...i would say he has experience in decision making under pressure :)

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 879 - 10/07/2016 20:54:58    1880410

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "RD

No way is Graham Reilly captain material,I almost spilled my coffee there! :D"
Agreed Ziggy where was Biggy in the second half yesterday ?? When we needed our more experienced players to stand up. The only two I could see was Donal Koeghan. Biggy as captain that's a joke obviously. Biggy was lucky to stay on the pitch second half.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 10/07/2016 20:57:55    1880412

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Replying To bobkarlgees:  "Agreed Ziggy where was Biggy in the second half yesterday ?? When we needed our more experienced players to stand up. The only two I could see was Donal Koeghan. Biggy as captain that's a joke obviously. Biggy was lucky to stay on the pitch second half."
McMahon was doing more when he was taken off..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 10/07/2016 21:02:06    1880419

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Is there anyone actually here who would NOT like to see McEntee in charge? I wonder would the clubs put pressure on the county board for him to be installed.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 10/07/2016 21:04:47    1880422

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Sean Boylan worked with players with more ability, character and a better attitude than what recent managers had to. We need a guy who is highly experienced at this stage to get the best team/squad properly organised and conditioned, playing to their strengths (with an attacking and defensive system that is in harmony and actually works/is effective), develop team spirit and self-belief, and of course with game management skills. A motivator and disciplinarian who will get the necessary (more) commitment from the players and take no nonsense. Somebody who is totally driven and hates losing (i.e. a winner). So not a Mr nice guy, who is a soft touch. The new manager should also profile all the players available as individuals - their mindset/mentality, aspirations and lifestyle and decide which of them are actually worth working with.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 10/07/2016 21:11:12    1880426

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There's no point in naming players as potential captains- ones who may not even be good enough with the next manager to be on the team. When people talk about experience what do the mean? is it experience of getting beaten?. Most if not nearly all of the guys who are being named as potential manager material are guys who:
(a) have not managed to any success level or,
(b) have not managed any team inside the county to win a senior championship
There needs to be time and due consideration given to what person or group take charge of management going forward and the junior manager should also be appointed at the same time

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 10/07/2016 21:16:35    1880428

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Replying To GlasagusOr:  "Sean Boylan worked with players with more ability, character and a better attitude than what recent managers had to. We need a guy who is highly experienced at this stage to get the best team/squad properly organised and conditioned, playing to their strengths (with an attacking and defensive system that is in harmony and actually works/is effective), develop team spirit and self-belief, and of course with game management skills. A motivator and disciplinarian who will get the necessary (more) commitment from the players and take no nonsense. Somebody who is totally driven and hates losing (i.e. a winner). So not a Mr nice guy, who is a soft touch. The new manager should also profile all the players available as individuals - their mindset/mentality, aspirations and lifestyle and decide which of them are actually worth working with."
Look what Pete McGrath has done with Fermanagh..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 10/07/2016 21:19:21    1880432

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Replying To bobkarlgees:  "Agreed Ziggy where was Biggy in the second half yesterday ?? When we needed our more experienced players to stand up. The only two I could see was Donal Koeghan. Biggy as captain that's a joke obviously. Biggy was lucky to stay on the pitch second half."
He was camped in derrys half in second half, and made two very important blocks/tackles, doing what your like has been saying he doesn't do, actually he showed more leadership than most of team yesterday.
But for me keoghan cannot remain captain, as much I think he is a fantastic player, not knowing Westmeath had never beat us in championship is not something any player should not know , let alone our captain, Jesus Christ, maybe he could have instilled that into his players during that match, if he had known it, for me that makes him ineligible to continue in the role, perhaps one of the very best players we have produced, bit a captain must know the history and be passionate about it. We recently have seen the inner thought's of a former captain, and I feel someone new is very badly needed.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/07/2016 21:20:13    1880434

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Replying To browncows:  "There's no point in naming players as potential captains- ones who may not even be good enough with the next manager to be on the team. When people talk about experience what do the mean? is it experience of getting beaten?. Most if not nearly all of the guys who are being named as potential manager material are guys who:
(a) have not managed to any success level or,
(b) have not managed any team inside the county to win a senior championship
There needs to be time and due consideration given to what person or group take charge of management going forward and the junior manager should also be appointed at the same time"
So a manager should only get the job if they have won a Senior champ in Meath?

Rubbish..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 10/07/2016 21:21:40    1880435

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Im so ashamed of meath football right now,i couldnt care if they gave it back to mick o'dowd

otherlad (Meath) - Posts: 137 - 10/07/2016 21:22:44    1880436

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Replying To browncows:  "There's no point in naming players as potential captains- ones who may not even be good enough with the next manager to be on the team. When people talk about experience what do the mean? is it experience of getting beaten?. Most if not nearly all of the guys who are being named as potential manager material are guys who:
(a) have not managed to any success level or,
(b) have not managed any team inside the county to win a senior championship
There needs to be time and due consideration given to what person or group take charge of management going forward and the junior manager should also be appointed at the same time"
Ok but does winning the all ire club championship not trump anything that happens in Meath club football? Lets be honest the club scene in Meath is atrocious over past ten years, regularly getting hammered by clubs who in turn het annihilated next game.
Been successful in senior Meath club is nothing to boast about these days I'm afraid

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/07/2016 21:25:30    1880438

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Replying To otherlad:  "Im so ashamed of meath football right now,i couldnt care if they gave it back to mick o'dowd"
Should have left banty in charge, he was actually better Tha mod

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/07/2016 21:27:39    1880440

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Is there anyone actually here who would NOT like to see McEntee in charge? I wonder would the clubs put pressure on the county board for him to be installed."
Not sure if Andy fits the bill right now. Did he leave Ashbourne club with less than full support ? Anyway, think we have to get someone who would be strong in the mental preparation of a team to take things from here.Take Newman as an example who seems to be robbed of his confidence under Micko. A Boylan like figure would bring him back to where he was,and there are other examples where players were inhibited . Is Andy that type of manager?.No doubt nobody will be made to measure to take it from here in the circumstances..Anyway no rush, We have to get the right man.We do not need another rookie manager. It wont be Boylan of course ,but he should have a key part in the selection.

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1228 - 10/07/2016 21:47:40    1880454

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Ziggy- you should know lots about rubbish as you would be the expert in that area judging by some posts. RD - the answer is no as any team in Dublin who wins their championship will win the AI at present. The guy you have named as potential manger (may be good and may be the best) has managed Dun/Ash but was not able to manage a senior title with them. Dun/Ash had/have great talent and their minor team a few years back won the Leinster minor championship and obviously to do that they had to have the best team in the province- the also won a few u21's so there was talent there. RD thinks that to win the senior championship is easy - ask any team who have won one and they may tell you a different story (its not like you can win one every week).

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 10/07/2016 22:02:25    1880475

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Replying To browncows:  "Ziggy- you should know lots about rubbish as you would be the expert in that area judging by some posts. RD - the answer is no as any team in Dublin who wins their championship will win the AI at present. The guy you have named as potential manger (may be good and may be the best) has managed Dun/Ash but was not able to manage a senior title with them. Dun/Ash had/have great talent and their minor team a few years back won the Leinster minor championship and obviously to do that they had to have the best team in the province- the also won a few u21's so there was talent there. RD thinks that to win the senior championship is easy - ask any team who have won one and they may tell you a different story (its not like you can win one every week)."
FFS Andy managed ASH for one year in the senior champ....

Plus I don't appreciate the personal attacks,something you do quite a bit here..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 10/07/2016 22:15:27    1880492

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Replying To browncows:  "Ziggy- you should know lots about rubbish as you would be the expert in that area judging by some posts. RD - the answer is no as any team in Dublin who wins their championship will win the AI at present. The guy you have named as potential manger (may be good and may be the best) has managed Dun/Ash but was not able to manage a senior title with them. Dun/Ash had/have great talent and their minor team a few years back won the Leinster minor championship and obviously to do that they had to have the best team in the province- the also won a few u21's so there was talent there. RD thinks that to win the senior championship is easy - ask any team who have won one and they may tell you a different story (its not like you can win one every week)."
Oh and by the way as an Ashbourne man myself,Ash were nowhere near good enough to win the Senior champ at that time..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 10/07/2016 22:17:24    1880495

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Replying To nobull456:  "Not sure if Andy fits the bill right now. Did he leave Ashbourne club with less than full support ? Anyway, think we have to get someone who would be strong in the mental preparation of a team to take things from here.Take Newman as an example who seems to be robbed of his confidence under Micko. A Boylan like figure would bring him back to where he was,and there are other examples where players were inhibited . Is Andy that type of manager?.No doubt nobody will be made to measure to take it from here in the circumstances..Anyway no rush, We have to get the right man.We do not need another rookie manager. It wont be Boylan of course ,but he should have a key part in the selection."
Andy most certainly is that kind of manager.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 10/07/2016 22:20:14    1880499

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Tony Kearney and Eamonn Barry always stood out for me at club level mangers in this county !

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 879 - 10/07/2016 22:24:23    1880501

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Portugal again showing what a well coached team can do.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 10/07/2016 22:36:43    1880503

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