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Replying To royaldunne:  "I was just thinking something to myself. Who are we better than taking this and last year into consideration.
I'm not including ny or kk for obvious reasons.
London
Carlow
Waterford
Wexford
Antrim
Wicklow
Louth
Armagh
Offaly
Limerick
Laois
Kildare
Longford
Westmeath??
Who else? Maybe Down??
But I do think we have better players than what we have been achieving, I have probably left out a county or two, but realistically those are the ones we could say we would be confident against and even at that v Longford / Westmeath Kildare Laois it'd be 50/50 at best ."
Royaldunne , the following teams have beaten us in recent years , Armagh , Kildare, Longford , Westmeath ... I'm not so sure we are any better than any of these teams .

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 25/07/2016 14:13:27    1889730

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Replying To Richieq:  "I'm probably in the minority but Tyrone have a lot to prove to me yet, I don't consider them All Ireland contenders as the standard in Ulster is really poor this year and Tyrone have at times struggled against poor opposition, just my opinion but I think they have yet to prove their credentials"
You are away of the mark-not sure what you have been watching- Tyrone last year with any sort of decent ref would have beaten Kerry and this year they are better- I would not bet against them as the are easily in the top 3

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 26/07/2016 01:53:34    1890098

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Replying To browncows:  "You are away of the mark-not sure what you have been watching- Tyrone last year with any sort of decent ref would have beaten Kerry and this year they are better- I would not bet against them as the are easily in the top 3"
Agree-- while not overly impressive in play they seem to have that bit of steel about them which will make it hard to put them away. A testament to good management

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 26/07/2016 12:19:42    1890298

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Replying To bert09:  "Agree-- while not overly impressive in play they seem to have that bit of steel about them which will make it hard to put them away. A testament to good management"
Exactly,its something I wish Meath had.Tyrone can win often without playing well.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/07/2016 13:08:23    1890349

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Replying To browncows:  "You are away of the mark-not sure what you have been watching- Tyrone last year with any sort of decent ref would have beaten Kerry and this year they are better- I would not bet against them as the are easily in the top 3"
As I say I know I'm in the minority but at times against Cavan and a declining Donegal they struggled, I'm more of the opinion that Donegal lost that game than Tyrone won it due to poor sideline decisions in second half by Donegal management, God that sounds familiar. I may be wrong but just calling it as I see it if its a Mayo/Tyrone quarter final I'd have a sneaky feeling for Mayo in that fixture

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 26/07/2016 13:17:00    1890362

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I see Mick Lyons is on the five man committee to find a new manager according to today's Indo, anyone hear who else is on this committee??

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 26/07/2016 13:18:06    1890363

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Some interesting discussion here..

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ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/07/2016 13:29:09    1890369

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Rumoured that McEntee would want Moyles as a selector and John O'Donohue as a fitness coach..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/07/2016 13:35:21    1890375

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I actually cant see Tyrone winning a all Ireland any time soon,there a bit like a Monaghan to me !

For example here is the Tyrone forward unit of present

C McShane , N Sludden, P Harte , C McAliskey, S Cavanagh , R O'Neill.

All ireland winning Tyrone forward unit

Brian Dooher ,Sean Cavanagh,Stephen O'Neill,B. McGuigan, O. Mulligan,P. Canavan

There is a massive difference between the two forward units !

Are they a top 3 team ? were Monaghan a top 3 team after winning two Ulster's and a seasoned division 1 team ?

Time will tell..but they do have a good management team !

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 26/07/2016 14:01:30    1890390

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Rumoured that McEntee would want Moyles as a selector and John O'Donohue as a fitness coach.."
I heard that about Moyles alright, he seems to be coming to prominence of late.....

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 26/07/2016 14:23:49    1890410

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Rumoured that McEntee would want Moyles as a selector and John O'Donohue as a fitness coach.."
Ziggy have you any background on John O'Donohue,for example what teams in the past did he work with. i just can't remember who John O'Donohue is at present .

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 26/07/2016 14:26:08    1890412

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Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "I actually cant see Tyrone winning a all Ireland any time soon,there a bit like a Monaghan to me !

For example here is the Tyrone forward unit of present

C McShane , N Sludden, P Harte , C McAliskey, S Cavanagh , R O'Neill.

All ireland winning Tyrone forward unit

Brian Dooher ,Sean Cavanagh,Stephen O'Neill,B. McGuigan, O. Mulligan,P. Canavan

There is a massive difference between the two forward units !

Are they a top 3 team ? were Monaghan a top 3 team after winning two Ulster's and a seasoned division 1 team ?

Time will tell..but they do have a good management team !"
Some of those forwards imo will get better though.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/07/2016 14:27:49    1890414

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Also interesting to note,that managers can only be nominated if interested in the job.Remember before you could see 10 people nominated,but 6,7,or 8 then saying they are not interested after they are nominated.In otherwords whoever is nominated this time round will be interested in the job.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/07/2016 15:39:50    1890464

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Also interesting to note,that managers can only be nominated if interested in the job.Remember before you could see 10 people nominated,but 6,7,or 8 then saying they are not interested after they are nominated.In otherwords whoever is nominated this time round will be interested in the job."
I am pleasantly surprised at the efficiency of the powers that be in starting the process, we could potentially have a new manager in place in August which would certainly be beneficial. Also that direction that only interested persons be nominated is common sense and should only help to speed up the process.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 26/07/2016 15:55:03    1890479

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Replying To Richieq:  "I am pleasantly surprised at the efficiency of the powers that be in starting the process, we could potentially have a new manager in place in August which would certainly be beneficial. Also that direction that only interested persons be nominated is common sense and should only help to speed up the process."
It is good to see the process been pushed forward, new manager needs to be able to have a look at potential panel makeup in championship.
Any talk of interested parties? Apart from Mac and Moyles

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2142 - 26/07/2016 16:13:11    1890492

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Replying To seadog54:  "It is good to see the process been pushed forward, new manager needs to be able to have a look at potential panel makeup in championship.
Any talk of interested parties? Apart from Mac and Moyles"
This is it. I wonder who else will be interested. Talk that Moyles may be on McEntees ticket.I doubt a manager outside the county will be nominated.Could see Davy Nelson interested to be honest,he cannot achieve much more with NOM's.Will Graham Geraghty be interested again? Sean Kelly as actual manager? Either way it has hard to see a serious contender to McEntee and if true that the county board have already approached him,then he is likely a shoe-in and maybe potential contenders know this?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/07/2016 16:56:33    1890519

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The stand out manager in the county has been Sean Boylan. At present the best managers are Mickey Harte, Peter McGrath and Jim Gavin followed by M. O'Rourke. Which order the top 3 is put in is a matter of opinion even though Harte's record is the best considering all aspects. After that it is a pretty mixed bag. Andy may be best outside/inside Meath and that again depends on ones opinion and I'm sure there may be other as good. I'm not very convinced with some of the names being associated with him- maybe one of them should be a journalist as he has done little to impress me anywhere else. You need at least a forwards coach and a backs /defender coach (probably Fay is best suited to that position and I'm not sure who the other should be-moo). You need the best team in management.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 26/07/2016 18:05:29    1890569

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Replying To browncows:  "The stand out manager in the county has been Sean Boylan. At present the best managers are Mickey Harte, Peter McGrath and Jim Gavin followed by M. O'Rourke. Which order the top 3 is put in is a matter of opinion even though Harte's record is the best considering all aspects. After that it is a pretty mixed bag. Andy may be best outside/inside Meath and that again depends on ones opinion and I'm sure there may be other as good. I'm not very convinced with some of the names being associated with him- maybe one of them should be a journalist as he has done little to impress me anywhere else. You need at least a forwards coach and a backs /defender coach (probably Fay is best suited to that position and I'm not sure who the other should be-moo). You need the best team in management."
Pat Gilroy or Jack O'Connor are not bad mangers browncow,Jack O'Connor is a excellent manger ..best football coach in the country is Donie Buckley!

Inside the county there isn't a lot to pick from..

But just on a side note ..Paddy Carr was nominated to be Donegal manger when Jim Mcguinness stepped down,Ok i know Paddy Carr didn't have the best of times with the Meath minors in preparation ! Would anybody take a punt on Paddy Carr ?

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 26/07/2016 19:05:10    1890598

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Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "Pat Gilroy or Jack O'Connor are not bad mangers browncow,Jack O'Connor is a excellent manger ..best football coach in the country is Donie Buckley!

Inside the county there isn't a lot to pick from..

But just on a side note ..Paddy Carr was nominated to be Donegal manger when Jim Mcguinness stepped down,Ok i know Paddy Carr didn't have the best of times with the Meath minors in preparation ! Would anybody take a punt on Paddy Carr ?"
Paddy would be a good choice if interested.

Also...a long shot--what about Benny reddy?

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 26/07/2016 19:37:02    1890609

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "This is it. I wonder who else will be interested. Talk that Moyles may be on McEntees ticket.I doubt a manager outside the county will be nominated.Could see Davy Nelson interested to be honest,he cannot achieve much more with NOM's.Will Graham Geraghty be interested again? Sean Kelly as actual manager? Either way it has hard to see a serious contender to McEntee and if true that the county board have already approached him,then he is likely a shoe-in and maybe potential contenders know this?"
Graham was asked by a club about nominating him. Rumours have it that he declined, saying that Andy McEntee was best positioned to take over, now he has not ruled himself out should Andy decline the nomination, and would seriously consider a selector /forwards coaching role if he was asked.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 26/07/2016 20:01:09    1890622

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