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There is only one choice for Andy McEntee his record is excellent and he and his management team will bring the pride and passion that has been missing from the Meath team since great days of Sean Boylan who is legend it was a privallage to have met him and saw what great manager he was. I would also like to see the Brady boys back involved these lads are great at the fitness thing and I know for a fact as I hwve trained under them and they are also very proud Meath men. Colm took training sessions as a player under Seanie was just superb at and that is coming from a man who heavily involved with the team at time and the same man is a legend of Meath football and without we wouldn't have won the All Ireland in 99.

Keepthefaith999 (Meath) - Posts: 2 - 23/07/2016 20:08:56    1888725

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Tipp and Clare in the last 8,don't tell we are not at least as good as those teams.."
Tipp at the very least are better than us unfortunately.

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 23/07/2016 20:38:04    1888748

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Replying To Keepthefaith999:  "There is only one choice for Andy McEntee his record is excellent and he and his management team will bring the pride and passion that has been missing from the Meath team since great days of Sean Boylan who is legend it was a privallage to have met him and saw what great manager he was. I would also like to see the Brady boys back involved these lads are great at the fitness thing and I know for a fact as I hwve trained under them and they are also very proud Meath men. Colm took training sessions as a player under Seanie was just superb at and that is coming from a man who heavily involved with the team at time and the same man is a legend of Meath football and without we wouldn't have won the All Ireland in 99."
I think Colm Brady was part of Mods management team for the first two years!

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 23/07/2016 20:44:50    1888763

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Tipp and Clare in the last 8,don't tell we are not at least as good as those teams.."
Unfortunately ziggy, you'd have to say we're not, Derry came back at Tipperary and even took a 2 point lead with minutes remaining, Tipperary rallied brilliantly and got the job done.

Similarly Derry came back at us and took the lead with minutes remaining, how did we respond......we didn't, we couldn't find enough places to hide and we've done that regularly over the last 2-3 years.

I get what you're saying though, player for player we're probably no worse than Tipperary or Clare, but we're no better either and team wise we're comfortably behind those 2 teams.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 23/07/2016 20:56:16    1888772

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Replying To bert09:  "Tipp at the very least are better than us unfortunately."
I don't agree with that...

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 23/07/2016 20:59:22    1888775

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "I don't agree with that..."
Ziggy, the facts unfortunately say otherwise. And unless we show huge improvement next year's league might just point that out to us.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1063 - 23/07/2016 23:08:52    1888893

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Replying To Htaem:  "Unfortunately ziggy, you'd have to say we're not, Derry came back at Tipperary and even took a 2 point lead with minutes remaining, Tipperary rallied brilliantly and got the job done.

Similarly Derry came back at us and took the lead with minutes remaining, how did we respond......we didn't, we couldn't find enough places to hide and we've done that regularly over the last 2-3 years.

I get what you're saying though, player for player we're probably no worse than Tipperary or Clare, but we're no better either and team wise we're comfortably behind those 2 teams."
Unfortunately htaem I have to agree with you on this one, great character shown by Tipp and Clare , something we have been sadly lacking in recently, either would have beaten Meath yesterday, a whole new mentality and attitude change is what we need, the worrying thing over last 3 years is the top level is getting further away from us, the ones who were behind us are improving, and we are going gradually backwards, if we take this years league and championship combined, I'm sort to say we wouldn't be making into the top 16
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royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 24/07/2016 10:36:28    1889008

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Unfortunately htaem I have to agree with you on this one, great character shown by Tipp and Clare , something we have been sadly lacking in recently, either would have beaten Meath yesterday, a whole new mentality and attitude change is what we need, the worrying thing over last 3 years is the top level is getting further away from us, the ones who were behind us are improving, and we are going gradually backwards, if we take this years league and championship combined, I'm sort to say we wouldn't be making into the top 16
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But that is my point and I agree.Our attitude,mentality and commitment needs to improve,but we have the players to make top 8

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 24/07/2016 11:48:13    1889048

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "But that is my point and I agree.Our attitude,mentality and commitment needs to improve,but we have the players to make top 8"
If i was asked Ziggy from a neutral point of view and not being bias or tribal about it...What team would i like to manage at the end of the season ..would it be Tipp , Clare or Meath..i would pick Meath definitely ,i think we have the better players that are just not committed ,they were not fit.. played under no game plan..lot of the players lost heart and i felt they felt fatigued physically and mentally under the last management !

Now the question you should have put to the boys "would Mod have got Tipp or Clare to the last 8 ? "

I can here the moans now :)

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 24/07/2016 14:18:36    1889123

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Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "If i was asked Ziggy from a neutral point of view and not being bias or tribal about it...What team would i like to manage at the end of the season ..would it be Tipp , Clare or Meath..i would pick Meath definitely ,i think we have the better players that are just not committed ,they were not fit.. played under no game plan..lot of the players lost heart and i felt they felt fatigued physically and mentally under the last management !

Now the question you should have put to the boys "would Mod have got Tipp or Clare to the last 8 ? "

I can here the moans now :)"
sorry hear.

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 24/07/2016 14:46:38    1889136

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Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "If i was asked Ziggy from a neutral point of view and not being bias or tribal about it...What team would i like to manage at the end of the season ..would it be Tipp , Clare or Meath..i would pick Meath definitely ,i think we have the better players that are just not committed ,they were not fit.. played under no game plan..lot of the players lost heart and i felt they felt fatigued physically and mentally under the last management !

Now the question you should have put to the boys "would Mod have got Tipp or Clare to the last 8 ? "

I can here the moans now :)"
Exactly spot on 100% correct.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 24/07/2016 14:49:14    1889138

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Exactly spot on 100% correct."
The mental scars incurred over the past 4 years could last a generation.

Would much rather manage a team of all Ireland winners like Tipp than meath.

There is no evidence to suggest that we are better than Tipp at any level.

Just because we hold 7 all Ireland's and dominated for 15 years doesn't automatically mean we have better players than so called weaker counties.

Right now we are one of the weaker counties.

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 24/07/2016 15:06:27    1889148

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Replying To bert09:  "The mental scars incurred over the past 4 years could last a generation.

Would much rather manage a team of all Ireland winners like Tipp than meath.

There is no evidence to suggest that we are better than Tipp at any level.

Just because we hold 7 all Ireland's and dominated for 15 years doesn't automatically mean we have better players than so called weaker counties.

Right now we are one of the weaker counties."
Great for the championship to see clare and Tipp advance but I must admit it is depressing the state we are in when two hurling counties can produce better football sides than ourselves. Serious work to be done by the new management coming in, we seem a long way behind at this stage.

Royalace (Meath) - Posts: 121 - 24/07/2016 15:22:30    1889156

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I was just thinking something to myself. Who are we better than taking this and last year into consideration.
I'm not including ny or kk for obvious reasons.
London
Carlow
Waterford
Wexford
Antrim
Wicklow
Louth
Armagh
Offaly
Limerick
Laois
Kildare
Longford
Westmeath??
Who else? Maybe Down??
But I do think we have better players than what we have been achieving, I have probably left out a county or two, but realistically those are the ones we could say we would be confident against and even at that v Longford / Westmeath Kildare Laois it'd be 50/50 at best .

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 24/07/2016 16:17:40    1889190

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The claim that we have the players and are better than (pick your own) is wearing a bit thin at this stage. No such claims have any evidence to back them up. The sooner the better we realise this,.
Hopefully new management can then address the many problems and move forward.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2142 - 24/07/2016 16:53:15    1889217

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Replying To seadog54:  "The claim that we have the players and are better than (pick your own) is wearing a bit thin at this stage. No such claims have any evidence to back them up. The sooner the better we realise this,.
Hopefully new management can then address the many problems and move forward."
I see your point, the only thing id say is that, if we actually had a resemblance of a plan a or b and were actually fit (heard a lad returned to club and couldn't keep up in running with most clubmates) then perhaps they are bit better than we have been seeing. The task that Andy faces is the biggest task I think any Meath manager since boylan has faced, so many of those players have so many mental scars it might be hard for them rebound, CB wanted stability but perhaps in pushing for stability they have destroyed a squad of players.
Only time will tell, but only one man can be tasked with this enormous job, and that is Andy McEntee

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 24/07/2016 17:43:14    1889249

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Replying To Royalace:  "Great for the championship to see clare and Tipp advance but I must admit it is depressing the state we are in when two hurling counties can produce better football sides than ourselves. Serious work to be done by the new management coming in, we seem a long way behind at this stage."
Those two hurling counties have produced football sides better than most counties this year not just Meath.....look at Kildare, Monaghan, Derry, Armagh, Down, Roscommon, Sligo, all outlasted by Tipp and Clare and on merit too. Outside of Dublin and Kerry and possibly Mayo still anything is possible with the rest. On their day, playing to the potential they can, I would fancy Meath against anyone right now with the exception of the three counties I've mentioned. Whether the mental scars of last year and this are permanent or not will be revealed pretty quickly under the new management but if those scars can be healed and a sense of belief and confidence restored in the players then we could, and I stress could, improve significantly in a short space of time. May as well try and put a positive spin on it lads, were not the only struggling donkeys in this Derby....,

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 24/07/2016 20:28:39    1889353

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Replying To Richieq:  "Those two hurling counties have produced football sides better than most counties this year not just Meath.....look at Kildare, Monaghan, Derry, Armagh, Down, Roscommon, Sligo, all outlasted by Tipp and Clare and on merit too. Outside of Dublin and Kerry and possibly Mayo still anything is possible with the rest. On their day, playing to the potential they can, I would fancy Meath against anyone right now with the exception of the three counties I've mentioned. Whether the mental scars of last year and this are permanent or not will be revealed pretty quickly under the new management but if those scars can be healed and a sense of belief and confidence restored in the players then we could, and I stress could, improve significantly in a short space of time. May as well try and put a positive spin on it lads, were not the only struggling donkeys in this Derby....,"
Tyrone

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 24/07/2016 21:29:19    1889397

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I think we have the players we are good enough to winning games by 7, 8,9 points at half time. We are good enough to win them games with a little better game management. We could be wining the game we never got going with MOD at all I dont think Meath won more than about 3/4 games in row under MOD, We never got any momentum which needed to build confidence. I think even with the current players I reckon you could reach quarter finals under new management. I am very optimistic for the future, Maybe not winning all Ireland's but at least getting to maybe div 1 promotion or QFs.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 25/07/2016 09:25:58    1889514

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Replying To Brownepat:  "Tyrone"
I'm probably in the minority but Tyrone have a lot to prove to me yet, I don't consider them All Ireland contenders as the standard in Ulster is really poor this year and Tyrone have at times struggled against poor opposition, just my opinion but I think they have yet to prove their credentials

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 25/07/2016 11:14:20    1889585

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