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Replying To Htaem:  "I noticed that myself ziggy, had a look through the Chronicle there and it doesn't cover anything about a possible Meath manager or anything regarding the selection process.

I mean it's poor journalism in all honesty because MOD's replacement is all Meath fans are really interested in at the minute. I wonder did they even try to contact the Meath county board this week or potential candidates for any available information."
I noticed the same guys. Very bland reports with repetition of the same old stuff about MOD being hit by injuries etc. I do recognise that MOD was unlucky but you make your own luck in a way and he was probably a tad hasty in getting rid of some players without the replacements having proved themselves. I am inclined to think of Napoleon's quote that he wants a lucky general.

I wonder what the chronicle's take on it would have been if MOD hadn't resigned. Probably not much different considering colm collier's comments about the supporters.

I buy the paper most weeks but don't really expect any insight anymore on the GAA front.

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 13/07/2016 19:24:27    1882735

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Replying To Htaem:  "That's a good point username.if, I'm not sure exactly what our plan is regarding progression from minor to U21. I think we're starting to turn the corner at underage development, so it will be interesting to see what happens over the next 2-3 years regarding progression at the later stages."
We need to sort out the minor to u21 transition otherwise the good work with younger development squads is redundant. If only 4 of last years squad were still involved in a formal county panel then that's too much wasted talent given especially given that 2 were good enough for senior squad.

showforit (Meath) - Posts: 156 - 13/07/2016 20:05:36    1882756

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Replying To oldsam_newsam:  "I noticed the same guys. Very bland reports with repetition of the same old stuff about MOD being hit by injuries etc. I do recognise that MOD was unlucky but you make your own luck in a way and he was probably a tad hasty in getting rid of some players without the replacements having proved themselves. I am inclined to think of Napoleon's quote that he wants a lucky general.

I wonder what the chronicle's take on it would have been if MOD hadn't resigned. Probably not much different considering colm collier's comments about the supporters.

I buy the paper most weeks but don't really expect any insight anymore on the GAA front."
My doctor said there were'nt blood pressure tablets strong enough for me to continue reading about Meath under MOD in the Chronicle. So therefore, I havent bought it in over a year or so and since then, other than bloody internet forums & online sports reports, Ive been a veritable temple of inner calm on Tuesday nights.
ps I might have used a bit of 'poetic licence' there above, I mean maybe I was a bit economical with the truth and reality lately & just presenting it in a not entirely accurate way. Ah perception!

meath1967 (Meath) - Posts: 56 - 13/07/2016 20:19:52    1882765

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Oud club football is in a terrible state lads absolutely terribble, some people think its bad but have no idea actually how bad it is ,,our long drawn out campionships are noting short of a joke

otherlad (Meath) - Posts: 137 - 13/07/2016 20:23:15    1882768

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Yeah McEntee is the only viable option,which worries me.The county board would nearly not make this happen to spite everyone else.Maybe a bit to cynical to think that,but it would hardly surprise me!"
I want a team under a manager that will leave a doubt in the Dubs minds before we meet them. I want to be proud of their combined efforts not embarassed like by the statistics and performances with MOD.
I dont want opposition supporters feeling sorry for our plight and decline in fortunes.
I NEVER ever again want, not even in jest, to hear a Dub saying their A versus B game at training was more competitive than when they played us in the Championship.
So if there is ANY Meathman (nay any Man) currently better qualified, experienced & proven than Andy McEntee to restore some fight, belligerence and tactical nous as manager to the Meath Senior Football Team .... then I'm a Dutchman
It is a no brainer even for our Coiste. let them provide him with the necessary resources and beg him on bended knee that his County needs him Badly right now!!!
I wouldnt mind I'm not even a huge fan of his and even I can see that this is , no offence to anyone else, bar Gavin and Fitzmaurice, its no contest!!!

meath1967 (Meath) - Posts: 56 - 13/07/2016 21:00:43    1882787

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Replying To browncows:  "MarkMyWords (Meath) Newman, O'Sullivan and Wallace were on the panel and team!. I would say that a fully fit O'Rourke was miss but nobody else as there players of equal out there and on the panel and that is no dis-respect to any player."
I was referring to Mick's entire tenure. Newman's 2nd and 3rd season were disrupted with niggling injuries. O'Sullivan missed 2 years as we know and Wallace tore his acl and missed a year. Really hard to get a team to push on with such disruption.

Wonder would Declan McCabe and Brendan Murphy put their names forward? Nothing mentioned about the backroom team when we heard Mick was stepping down..

MarkMyWords (Meath) - Posts: 498 - 13/07/2016 21:37:19    1882802

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Replying To otherlad:  "Oud club football is in a terrible state lads absolutely terribble, some people think its bad but have no idea actually how bad it is ,,our long drawn out campionships are noting short of a joke"
yeah and when the chance to change it was passed in January by the clubs it was reversed by our great clubs in February... so i guess we stuck with it

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 13/07/2016 23:38:45    1882851

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Replying To Brownepat:  "yeah and when the chance to change it was passed in January by the clubs it was reversed by our great clubs in February... so i guess we stuck with it"
A decision mostly taken by small/poor clubs who were afraid of bein relagated, i said it at the time, anyway that porposed new format seen groups of 4 with 3 coming out which was another joke, Championship football needs to be brought back to reality,,,,, knockout,,one chance if your beaten lose a second time out out out, an start the bloody championship an finish it,, we could easily wait till the county team is out,,

otherlad (Meath) - Posts: 137 - 14/07/2016 04:50:54    1882884

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Replying To Brownepat:  "yeah and when the chance to change it was passed in January by the clubs it was reversed by our great clubs in February... so i guess we stuck with it"
That was a complete farce..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 14/07/2016 08:18:11    1882889

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Replying To otherlad:  "Oud club football is in a terrible state lads absolutely terribble, some people think its bad but have no idea actually how bad it is ,,our long drawn out campionships are noting short of a joke"
Barney Allen reckons we have the best club championship in Ireland!!!

In fairness it is a joke, and we're almost certainly never going to improve until it's changed. But the new format that was passed and then scrapped (well done clubs, another balls up) was only a small step in the right direction because 12 teams qualifying out of 4 groups is also a joke and so is only 1 relegation.

We need a bit of bite back in Meath football and you'll never get that with tame championship structures we have and shame on the county board, the clubs and all of us for putting up with such sh1te. Change is needed now!

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 14/07/2016 09:48:53    1882929

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Replying To otherlad:  "A decision mostly taken by small/poor clubs who were afraid of bein relagated, i said it at the time, anyway that porposed new format seen groups of 4 with 3 coming out which was another joke, Championship football needs to be brought back to reality,,,,, knockout,,one chance if your beaten lose a second time out out out, an start the bloody championship an finish it,, we could easily wait till the county team is out,,"
What about 4 groups of 4, top 4 teams qualify for KO stages plus the 2 best runners up, with rankings being determined by points first then score difference etc. Also Bottom 4 teams play in 2 relegation finals, ie 2 teams get relegated.

That'd mix things up a fair bit, but it will probably never happen.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 14/07/2016 09:56:32    1882940

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One of the first jobs for next mangers is to find a Stephen Bray type player one that works his socks off wins 50/50 and can finish pressure. It was clearly event against Derry ( and other games) in the second half there was a disconnect between back and forwards. Once things get tight we need a forward player to win 50/50 balls get a score win a free someone with a cool head. Unless we can either mould any existing player.. Or find someone new we are going nowhere. Easier said than done but its badly needed.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 14/07/2016 12:58:09    1883078

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Replying To bobkarlgees:  "One of the first jobs for next mangers is to find a Stephen Bray type player one that works his socks off wins 50/50 and can finish pressure. It was clearly event against Derry ( and other games) in the second half there was a disconnect between back and forwards. Once things get tight we need a forward player to win 50/50 balls get a score win a free someone with a cool head. Unless we can either mould any existing player.. Or find someone new we are going nowhere. Easier said than done but its badly needed."
I would like to See douglas given a shot at that sort of role.. He can win his own ball and is very strong in possession. Also is 100% more attack minded than defence. Could be a very good half forward/corner forward

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 14/07/2016 13:07:22    1883087

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Replying To Htaem:  "Barney Allen reckons we have the best club championship in Ireland!!!

In fairness it is a joke, and we're almost certainly never going to improve until it's changed. But the new format that was passed and then scrapped (well done clubs, another balls up) was only a small step in the right direction because 12 teams qualifying out of 4 groups is also a joke and so is only 1 relegation.

We need a bit of bite back in Meath football and you'll never get that with tame championship structures we have and shame on the county board, the clubs and all of us for putting up with such sh1te. Change is needed now!"
Yeah but are they going to change it or is this the end of it for a few years??

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 14/07/2016 13:33:56    1883107

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Replying To bobkarlgees:  "One of the first jobs for next mangers is to find a Stephen Bray type player one that works his socks off wins 50/50 and can finish pressure. It was clearly event against Derry ( and other games) in the second half there was a disconnect between back and forwards. Once things get tight we need a forward player to win 50/50 balls get a score win a free someone with a cool head. Unless we can either mould any existing player.. Or find someone new we are going nowhere. Easier said than done but its badly needed."
A 50/50 ball is very rare these days, someone told me in one of the games that we be it in passes or kick outs gave 20+ 50/50 balls opposition gave 2 from general play, and I cant recall how many from kick out but it was less than ours , so by all accounts the 50/50 ball is a thing of the past, and retaining possession is paramount, the logic is simple, if you have the ball , they cant score, hitting in 50/50 balls is 1980s football, what we need to coach is possession plans and proper execution of well worked drills.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/07/2016 13:37:07    1883111

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One of the first jobs for next mangers is to find a Stephen Bray type player one that works his socks off wins 50/50 and can finish pressure. It was clearly event against Derry ( and other games) in the second half there was a disconnect between back and forwards. Once things get tight we need a forward player to win 50/50 balls get a score win a free someone with a cool head. Unless we can either mould any existing player.. Or find someone new we are going nowhere. Easier said than done but its badly needed.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 14/07/2016 13:53:59    1883132

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Why do the general populace , who come on here believe that Andy McEntee will get a favourable hearing for the Meath Job . he was discarded after his minor adventures in a unforgivable fashion . Ok so he got thru the back door to an All Ireland final . .... He got there , Ok so he was embroiled in controversy about side line battles , racial taunts , Co etc.
The Meath County Management team that are still in power didn't want him involved and thus gave to gig to someone else . Why do you think they will change their minds. If anyone on here knows how they work then it wont be a surprise how illogical , belligerent and just downright dumb they can be . Lest you think they've changed , recall the U16 Management team debacle that went on for 7 months .

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 14/07/2016 14:38:42    1883176

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Yeah but are they going to change it or is this the end of it for a few years??"
Are they going to change it ziggy? I presume the clubs got windy over all the initial relegations involved and that's why the change was rescinded, but what exactly is happening now?

Also if they are going to change it, there's not much point in changing to 12 teams qualifying out of 4 groups and only 1 relegation, that's almost as bad as what we have now!

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 14/07/2016 14:43:20    1883183

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "I would like to See douglas given a shot at that sort of role.. He can win his own ball and is very strong in possession. Also is 100% more attack minded than defence. Could be a very good half forward/corner forward"
Douglas possibly worth a shot at half forward as he has played well there for Trim. Possibly man of the match there in the first round of the championship vs Ultans. At the same time there is a step up from club intermediate to senior inter county.
I agree with the sentiments regarding needing a new Stephen Bray. Bray has been a massive loss this year. In my opinion the backs have been better overall this year and midfield has mostly held its own. The forwards seem to have regressed since losing Bray in spite of O'Sullivan who made a welcome return.

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 14/07/2016 15:10:22    1883225

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Yeah but are they going to change it or is this the end of it for a few years??"
Did they not try and change it voted to change but then there was uproar from the smaller clubs so the change was halted?

Uncle_Fester (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 14/07/2016 15:53:07    1883269

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