Meath Forum

Meath... A hurling county?

(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post


Replying To Meath2010:  "Reading article about Martin Fogarty getting top Hurling Job. Why is Meath not part of the plan???? Christy Ring champions. 2 sides competing at div 1 standard at u16 and u17. Loads of work being done underage by GDA's and development squad managers."
Would imagine when plan drawn up nobody in HQ thought Meath would win Ring Cup, probably not aware that we even play hurling

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2144 - 29/06/2016 14:01:45    1873820

Link

Replying To browncows:  "I would agree Richqie and add that the top footballers can require a very high level of fitness/mobility and you can see a full forward (football)sometimes collecting a ball on his own goal line having travelled the length of the pitch - I do not see much of that in hurling as it is adifferent game with skilfull use of a hurley. I would say that the footballers are easily as fit or fitter than the hurlers and in dual clubs that can be easily demonstrated sometimes."
Did you see the hurling on Saturday ?
What about Adam Gannons runs , ????

duelplayer1 (Meath) - Posts: 97 - 29/06/2016 16:54:37    1873924

Link

Football and hurling are 2 different games, and our teams play at 2 different levels. There's no point comparing the fitness of the 2 teams. Dublin would make any team look unfit in football.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1646 - 29/06/2016 18:44:01    1873969

Link

Replying To CastleBravo:  "Football and hurling are 2 different games, and our teams play at 2 different levels. There's no point comparing the fitness of the 2 teams. Dublin would make any team look unfit in football."
Hurling is a completely different game to football, why would you need to run fifty or even twenty yards when you can make the ball do the work for you? It's all about primary possession and first touch, if you haven't got the ball under control on your first touch you won't get a second chance at the top level. Running fifty yards with the ball on your stick is something you normally only see at underage level, there's nothing worse than seeing a player secure possession with a fine catch and then lose it again because he decided to try and run it through the mid field and defence. It's all about using a burst of speed to get into position to secure the ball then using your speed, agility and strength to gain the space to use the ball effectively, quite often the only correct option is to pass the ball to a team mate who's in space or unmarked, too often we see players taking the wrong option by trying to barge their way into space or firing off a Hail Mary in the general direction of the goal without actually having a chance of getting anywhere near it. It's this stop/start regime that drains your fitness, but careful use of the space, accurate aim and a deft first touch is all you really need.

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 29/06/2016 19:18:55    1873984

Link

Can the Hurlers now have there own jersey ,one without the 7 stars on the back

royalpainter (Meath) - Posts: 874 - 29/06/2016 19:56:05    1873992

Link

Replying To CastleBravo:  "Football and hurling are 2 different games, and our teams play at 2 different levels. There's no point comparing the fitness of the 2 teams. Dublin would make any team look unfit in football."
Dublin would make any team look unfit in any sport never mind Football !

Thats the thing if i went on the same fitness program as any Dublin footballer i would still never be as fit as them..the recovery time for a Dublin player from injuries is also very fast,the teams form never dips..every great team in soccer ,basketball,American Football ,Aussie rules,rugby all suffer a dip in form in a season. Toulon rugby club bought every great player in the rugby world in every position twice..so if Ma'a Nonu gets injured he is replaced by Matt Giteau, thats like replacing Dermot Connelly with Conor Mcmanus! But for all the best of everything that money can buy Toulon still suffers from form and they lose games from weaker teams because of it! But fair play to Dublin their form has never dropped in the last few years ..their back room team are the best in the world pound for pound in any sport!

Killkenny hurling for all that is good about them they still suffer a set back in form..they still don't get all their own way and the margin of victory on the score board is not the same as their dominant counter part Dublin in football !

The thing that could make this Meath hurling team great is the Overhead Catch ! Killkenny are masters at it..if this Meath hurling team improve on that we could have a great team on our hands! They seem to be physically strong..great work rate..excellent tactical awareness ..it looks like this team was playing with each other forever because everybody seems to know where their team members are on the pitch..and most important team spirit and a manger that knows bloody well what he is doing!

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 29/06/2016 21:45:41    1874038

Link

How many hurling clubs are there in Meath lads?

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1018 - 29/06/2016 22:49:35    1874066

Link

Replying To Jack_Sparrow:  "How many hurling clubs are there in Meath lads?"
22 iincluding dual clubs like dunboyne and kells

srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 30/06/2016 08:20:20    1874096

Link

Replying To Jack_Sparrow:  "How many hurling clubs are there in Meath lads?"
About 22/23 I think (not sure if St Pats have a team this year). We've 12 teams in both the senior and intermediate championship, and a 13 team junior championship (all 2nd and 3rd teams). I think 12 senior teams is a bit much though, a restructure would really help shake teams up, maybe with an 8 or 10 team senior championship. At the minute structure is two groups of 6, but a smaller championship with less room for error would really help improve things I feel. Realistically there is a big gap between the top 6 and the rest.

hurlingroyals (Meath) - Posts: 45 - 30/06/2016 08:51:36    1874105

Link

Replying To Jack_Sparrow:  "How many hurling clubs are there in Meath lads?"
21 clubs now that Kilskyre and Moylagh joined up

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 30/06/2016 09:27:12    1874116

Link

I count 20. Pat's haven't fielded in the league so I'm assuming they're gone again. They seem to have an underage system which is good to see.
12 senior and of the 12 in intermediate I count 8 (Drumree, Rathmolyon, Na Fianna, Wolfe Tones, Kilskyre/Moylagh, Donaghmore/Ashbourne, Ratoath and Gaeil Colmcille) as first teams.

No first teams in junior so that's 20.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1646 - 30/06/2016 13:39:57    1874245

Link

Replying To CastleBravo:  "I count 20. Pat's haven't fielded in the league so I'm assuming they're gone again. They seem to have an underage system which is good to see.
12 senior and of the 12 in intermediate I count 8 (Drumree, Rathmolyon, Na Fianna, Wolfe Tones, Kilskyre/Moylagh, Donaghmore/Ashbourne, Ratoath and Gaeil Colmcille) as first teams.

No first teams in junior so that's 20."
Yes correct number is 20 Pats folded

numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 30/06/2016 18:13:39    1874416

Link

Will we be in the qualifiers next year if we don't make it out of Leinster round robin?

Jimin10 (Meath) - Posts: 783 - 01/07/2016 13:46:24    1874662

Link

Replying To Jimin10:  "Will we be in the qualifiers next year if we don't make it out of Leinster round robin?"
No

numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 01/07/2016 13:49:03    1874664

Link

Thats a good number of clubs. Theres only 15 in Westmeath.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1018 - 01/07/2016 18:17:03    1874812

Link

Replying To begining:  "Ok, so given the fantastic achievements of the Hurlers over the last month. Where does the small ball stand in relation to the big ball at present? I for one have been involved in Meath GAA for over 30 years and have never seem such doom and gloom surround our footballers and the hurlers on such a high.

Granted the Meath footballers just played the All Ireland champions and the hurlers got by Antrim in a tier 2 competition by the smallest of margins AET. If roles were reversed how would the hurlers get on against Kilkenny in a similar fixture? If the hurlers had been training 5 nights a week since last October, went on numerous training weekends down the country, a week long holiday camp in Portugal, had all hurlers (including those playing Meath football) available and came up against a Kilkenny team playing in 2nd gear would they be closer than Meath were against Dublin on Sunday?"
Honestly no Meath would be no where near Kilkenny or any of the top Hurling Counties. The hope will be that we can beat one of Kerry, Laois or Westmeath next year in the Leinster Round Robin and so at least therefore do not return to Christy Ring in 2018. That would be progress and has to be the next aim.
Before that we need to get out of Tier 4 in the League something that has proved beyond us in recent times

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 02/07/2016 13:58:57    1875003

Link

Replying To Jack_Sparrow:  "Thats a good number of clubs. Theres only 15 in Westmeath."
Standard at senior level in westmeath is a lot higher. With 8 senior teams in westmeath I think this is something we should look at as there is a bit of a gap between some of our teams. Reducing the championship to 8 would make for more competitive games. Clubs going to intermediate would also be playing at a comfortable level. Westmeath have made serious progress in recent years which we should be be In a position to follow giving the numbers we have.

Royalace (Meath) - Posts: 121 - 02/07/2016 15:50:27    1875038

Link

Every euro put towards hurling in Meath is a euro taken from football

That is how it's usually interpreted.

The league system is unfair in my opinion.. with the best teM not generally being rewarded with promotion. Meath have fallen on this a couple of time's in recent years

Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 03/07/2016 17:17:56    1875479

Link

Replying To Royalio11:  "Every euro put towards hurling in Meath is a euro taken from football

That is how it's usually interpreted.

The league system is unfair in my opinion.. with the best teM not generally being rewarded with promotion. Meath have fallen on this a couple of time's in recent years"
Strange same comment re funding is made about the filthy rich Dublin GAA on these forums .. I can sense usual chip on shoulders rising it's ugly head again.
Unfair league system what rubbish 6 teams 2 to a final winner promoted the fact is if you not good enough to win it you simply won't win it and that's that., hard luck stories only last so long.

Meath have far more people playing hurling than every other Leinster county apart from Kilkenny Wexford and Dublin and yet have lagged behind Westmeath Offaly Carlow Laois Kildare and Wicklow that is until we won the Christy ring this year

Was it a flash in the pan. It will be unless we win tier 4 of the league and avoid relegation from Leinster in 2017.
How many would put hard cash on that double ...

I be keeping my money in my pocket

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 08/07/2016 09:15:16    1878303

Link

Replying To Brownepat:  "Strange same comment re funding is made about the filthy rich Dublin GAA on these forums .. I can sense usual chip on shoulders rising it's ugly head again.
Unfair league system what rubbish 6 teams 2 to a final winner promoted the fact is if you not good enough to win it you simply won't win it and that's that., hard luck stories only last so long.

Meath have far more people playing hurling than every other Leinster county apart from Kilkenny Wexford and Dublin and yet have lagged behind Westmeath Offaly Carlow Laois Kildare and Wicklow that is until we won the Christy ring this year

Was it a flash in the pan. It will be unless we win tier 4 of the league and avoid relegation from Leinster in 2017.
How many would put hard cash on that double ...

I be keeping my money in my pocket"
I see comments about their being too many senior teams in Meath at the moment. in 1999 there were 20 senior teams in Meath .

meathfan2 (Meath) - Posts: 7 - 09/07/2016 22:25:01    1879595

Link