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Replying To royaldunne: "I think both Harnan and keoghan should be dropped for this game, keoghan got roasted last 2 times we played Dublin, bring in Finn.
As for Harnan? Remember it was him who cost us our proud record v wm ," Yeah it was all Harnans fault.....
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Replying To royaldunne: "I think both Harnan and keoghan should be dropped for this game, keoghan got roasted last 2 times we played Dublin, bring in Finn.
As for Harnan? Remember it was him who cost us our proud record v wm ," Btw, I jest, both have had bad outings for Meath in the not distant past, but going by some peoples logic this would be acceptable, ill give players one thing regardless of their opinions on management, they put county above personal views, lets look at those who will not line out? People saying drop por biggy and whoever, at least they willing to put in the efforts unlike a few who some would have walk back onto panel.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/06/2016 17:32:54
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Replying To Greenfield: "The Round 2 qualifier fixtures are down for July 2nd (2A) and July 9th (2B). We were in section A originally, so I presume it's still the same. That means if we lose on the 26th we are looking at a 6 day turnaround. They seem to be determined to force us into that situation this year seeing as we would have also faced one had Louth beaten us." Is this true? FFS we likely only have 2 games left so..
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 16/06/2016 17:33:02
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Replying To bobkarlgees: "Allot of talk of the section of Paddy O'Rouke and Biggy. There my thinking as things stand at the moment I would drop both of them. POR because of discipline record is very poor. Biggy on the other hand just dose not work hard enough often enough in my opinion, a blind man could see that. So I drop both of them for different reasons. So maybe not today or maybe not tomorrow. But they will once again let the team down when we need them in my opinion. Now having said that I think MOD has a part to play here everyone knows the history of the 2 boys. So MOD how come and the backroom staff cant sort it ? Its MOD 3rd year now. The only other older experienced player i can think of is Mickey Burke. Mickey should be a example of how the boys should behave honest and hard working. Mickey Burke seems to be only older experienced left that MOD kept (or was able to control). POR and BIggy seem to have a mind of there own and do there own thing and are unreliable." Holy moly, wait til RD sees this.
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 16/06/2016 17:43:54
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Replying To RoyalClass: " Replying To bert09: "[quote=RoyalClass: " linkInteresting and insightful by Jim McGuiness. Tactical breakdown in how he believes teams can beat Dublin. Well worth a read." Yes, and we have at least two 11s to reek damage on sweeper system. Imagine O'Sullivan and Reilly interchanging at the top of their game supplying ball to inside forwards and having ability to kick their own scores from the 45. One can only imagine"
The only thing is do we have the quality forwards inside to really trouble Dublin? I'm not convinced however it would be interesting to see how MOD approaches the game."]Newman is decent inside but is another player who has sort of gone backwards in last year or so. MOD needs to get more from him.
McMahon can score goals and really enjoyed playing cricket last year (at least the first half!)
Big target man--andy tormey? Come to think of it he can do better too. MOD needs to get more out of him
bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 16/06/2016 17:45:47
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Was your account hacked royaldunne?
Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 16/06/2016 18:15:25
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Just read through 7 pages of absolute madness.
Can I please have some of what 70% of poster's are on!!
Meath were saved by results otherswise would have been in Division 3. And are expected to beat a team back to back div. 1 champs and current all Ireland holders? A team not defeated in Leinster in 6 years?
Meath unconvincingly made it passed louth
Meath have a history of collapses
O Dowd hasn't been near Dublin on any other meetings.. he has only beaten low ranked Leinster teams in 4 years.
I can see a record beating coming Meaths way.. what +15? Newman's goal in the last few minutes of 2014 equalled it to save the blushes.
Dublin will run through us for fun
The optimists will have the daggers out but don't be shocked when it happens
Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 16/06/2016 18:38:40
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Just on the Graham Reilly issue ...he is watch by opposition teams so they tend to double up on him which in return is a good thing because it leaves more space for young Eamon and Cillian to do there thing
Plus Graham Reilly always came into a Dublin game from back to back man of the match performances..i think this might work out well for him this time around!
Dalton Mcdonagh i would give him a start against the Dubs..i just think him and Andrew need another few games together !
I was never a fan of Ollie Murphy (god forgive me for saying this) until his performance in the 1999 leinster final against Dublin..he also greeted journalists that day after his man of the match performance wearing a world cup 1990 t-shirt with a hole on the left hand side :)
WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 879 - 16/06/2016 18:44:09
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Replying To WhyTheLongFace: "Just on the Graham Reilly issue ...he is watch by opposition teams so they tend to double up on him which in return is a good thing because it leaves more space for young Eamon and Cillian to do there thing
Plus Graham Reilly always came into a Dublin game from back to back man of the match performances..i think this might work out well for him this time around!
Dalton Mcdonagh i would give him a start against the Dubs..i just think him and Andrew need another few games together !
I was never a fan of Ollie Murphy (god forgive me for saying this) until his performance in the 1999 leinster final against Dublin..he also greeted journalists that day after his man of the match performance wearing a world cup 1990 t-shirt with a hole on the left hand side :)" Dalton is not clinical enough in my own opinion.
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 16/06/2016 19:04:00
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Replying To ziggy32001: "Is this true? FFS we likely only have 2 games left so.." Not only that but round 3A which I presume involves the 2A winners play on 9th July so that seems if we lose to dubs will play on 2nd and win there we play again on 9th....
glenny (Meath) - Posts: 1108 - 16/06/2016 19:04:55
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Replying To WhyTheLongFace: "Just on the Graham Reilly issue ...he is watch by opposition teams so they tend to double up on him which in return is a good thing because it leaves more space for young Eamon and Cillian to do there thing
Plus Graham Reilly always came into a Dublin game from back to back man of the match performances..i think this might work out well for him this time around!
Dalton Mcdonagh i would give him a start against the Dubs..i just think him and Andrew need another few games together !
I was never a fan of Ollie Murphy (god forgive me for saying this) until his performance in the 1999 leinster final against Dublin..he also greeted journalists that day after his man of the match performance wearing a world cup 1990 t-shirt with a hole on the left hand side :)" Yeah id agree, graham is coming into this game under the radar, btw we would never have lost against Armagh if he had started that day, that been said under mod we have never beat a team rated higher than us, something even banty managed to do. So its a huge ask to go out and beat the no1 team. But hopefully we can do it.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/06/2016 19:18:08
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Replying To WhyTheLongFace: "Just on the Graham Reilly issue ...he is watch by opposition teams so they tend to double up on him which in return is a good thing because it leaves more space for young Eamon and Cillian to do there thing
Plus Graham Reilly always came into a Dublin game from back to back man of the match performances..i think this might work out well for him this time around!
Dalton Mcdonagh i would give him a start against the Dubs..i just think him and Andrew need another few games together !
I was never a fan of Ollie Murphy (god forgive me for saying this) until his performance in the 1999 leinster final against Dublin..he also greeted journalists that day after his man of the match performance wearing a world cup 1990 t-shirt with a hole on the left hand side :)" Not sure I'd start mcdonagh.
MOD has a habit of sticking with lads so wouldn't be surprised to see mcdonagh get another shtart
bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 16/06/2016 19:33:37
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Replying To Royalio11: "Just read through 7 pages of absolute madness.
Can I please have some of what 70% of poster's are on!!
Meath were saved by results otherswise would have been in Division 3. And are expected to beat a team back to back div. 1 champs and current all Ireland holders? A team not defeated in Leinster in 6 years?
Meath unconvincingly made it passed louth
Meath have a history of collapses
O Dowd hasn't been near Dublin on any other meetings.. he has only beaten low ranked Leinster teams in 4 years.
I can see a record beating coming Meaths way.. what +15? Newman's goal in the last few minutes of 2014 equalled it to save the blushes.
Dublin will run through us for fun
The optimists will have the daggers out but don't be shocked when it happens" I look at a glass that's half empty.
And I drink.
Until it's empty.
bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 16/06/2016 19:35:32
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Replying To Royalio11: "Just read through 7 pages of absolute madness.
Can I please have some of what 70% of poster's are on!!
Meath were saved by results otherswise would have been in Division 3. And are expected to beat a team back to back div. 1 champs and current all Ireland holders? A team not defeated in Leinster in 6 years?
Meath unconvincingly made it passed louth
Meath have a history of collapses
O Dowd hasn't been near Dublin on any other meetings.. he has only beaten low ranked Leinster teams in 4 years.
I can see a record beating coming Meaths way.. what +15? Newman's goal in the last few minutes of 2014 equalled it to save the blushes.
Dublin will run through us for fun
The optimists will have the daggers out but don't be shocked when it happens" Dont disagree with anything said here, if we go by form sense we last met then we could be in for a real hiding, Meath have showed nothing to suggest there has been any improvement over last two years. Optisim (denial) always to the fore in some quaters when we meet the Dubs, but is based on meetings and results from a different era. Step one on road back is get promoted to div one. Hoped I would see signs of improvement against a poor Louth team but looks like we still play like a bottom of divison 2 team. Time to start lighting the candles.
seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2154 - 16/06/2016 19:45:21
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Replying To Barney123: "Was your account hacked royaldunne?" No just pointing out the ludicrously of some peoples thinking, are we to drop every player who had a bad game v dubs in 14? Then 11/12 of the team that played on Sunday would have to be dropped, and look at last year v wm, as soon as Reilly got the black card we were forked , Donal Keogan was ran around in circles for one of those goals, Harnan missed a sitter. But to say drop them would be ludicrous because of that, just like saying to drop someone who either scored or had a direct hand in (free or last pass) 45% of our total scores in last game is stupidity in its most glaringly obvious form.
So my point was you play the players who if everything went right could win you the game, in their right positions. Also no one has said who they would replace graham with, its a fair question, who is better than him on the bench ? Who is graham keeping off team? Who would get more than 45% of our scores either directly or indirectly? Who is this magical player???
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/06/2016 20:11:20
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I have an idea for a formation:
Gk: HcHugh
Back: McEntee (if fit)
Back: Keogan
Back: Burke
Back: Tobin (of fit)
Back: Harnan
Back: Smyth
Back: Finn
Back: Douglas
Back: O'Brien
Back: Biggy
Back: Tormey
Back/Middle: O'Sullivan
3/4 forward: Wallace
Full-forward: Rooney (the man can catch a ball!!)
What do you's think, will that beat the Dubs?
Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 16/06/2016 21:06:30
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Replying To royaldunne: "No just pointing out the ludicrously of some peoples thinking, are we to drop every player who had a bad game v dubs in 14? Then 11/12 of the team that played on Sunday would have to be dropped, and look at last year v wm, as soon as Reilly got the black card we were forked , Donal Keogan was ran around in circles for one of those goals, Harnan missed a sitter. But to say drop them would be ludicrous because of that, just like saying to drop someone who either scored or had a direct hand in (free or last pass) 45% of our total scores in last game is stupidity in its most glaringly obvious form.
So my point was you play the players who if everything went right could win you the game, in their right positions. Also no one has said who they would replace graham with, its a fair question, who is better than him on the bench ? Who is graham keeping off team? Who would get more than 45% of our scores either directly or indirectly? Who is this magical player???" I agree 100% with royaldunne there, some people have an agenda with Reilly.... Yes he can be a bit lazy bit he can be exceptional at times. Dublin will come uo against far better players then him throughout the year bit I guarantee they'd rather mark whoever replaces him off the bench if that call was made.....anyway.if we were droppng players based on one performance,the Westmeath game last year was the.most farsical one in my memory and I'd start there
southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 895 - 16/06/2016 21:06:34
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Replying To royaldunne: "No just pointing out the ludicrously of some peoples thinking, are we to drop every player who had a bad game v dubs in 14? Then 11/12 of the team that played on Sunday would have to be dropped, and look at last year v wm, as soon as Reilly got the black card we were forked , Donal Keogan was ran around in circles for one of those goals, Harnan missed a sitter. But to say drop them would be ludicrous because of that, just like saying to drop someone who either scored or had a direct hand in (free or last pass) 45% of our total scores in last game is stupidity in its most glaringly obvious form.
So my point was you play the players who if everything went right could win you the game, in their right positions. Also no one has said who they would replace graham with, its a fair question, who is better than him on the bench ? Who is graham keeping off team? Who would get more than 45% of our scores either directly or indirectly? Who is this magical player???" Maybe we could drop Reilly and play 7 - 2- 5 formation. Play a holding midfielder.
bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 16/06/2016 21:38:03
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Replying To Htaem: "I have an idea for a formation:
Gk: HcHugh
Back: McEntee (if fit)
Back: Keogan
Back: Burke
Back: Tobin (of fit)
Back: Harnan
Back: Smyth
Back: Finn
Back: Douglas
Back: O'Brien
Back: Biggy
Back: Tormey
Back/Middle: O'Sullivan
3/4 forward: Wallace
Full-forward: Rooney (the man can catch a ball!!)
What do you's think, will that beat the Dubs?" I'm liking it
bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 16/06/2016 21:40:05
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Here is a question...
Who do people think are the potential leaders on this Meath team. We have lost Bray,Menton,Gillespie,Reilly in recent years.But what younger players have the potential to be leaders on the current team?
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 16/06/2016 22:01:40
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